Gemsy-chan
Shrine Maiden
Wondering when Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt will be shipped for those who ordered it?
UK Anime Distributor Anime Limited Discussion Thread
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st_owly (witch)
Time-Traveller
FWIW with Kickstarter, I backed the project for Osamu Tezuka's "The Crater" and they just vanished into thin air. I don't mind waiting for MMM, as you guys have been pretty good about updates when you've got something to say. I understand the frustration of wanting to update people but with nothing to say.... (happened in my old job all the time)
Buzz201 said:
Yeah, I personally think we got it wrong in the quiet periods not updating in retrospect, now we're getting things moving even in quiet weeks we intend to keep folks updated now as well where we can even if just small info
.AP
Gemsy-chan said:
Should be very very soon, sorry for the delay! Had some issues with packing materials here.
AP
Lutga said:
Just finishing Nerima as we speak in fact
! Into Q4 for realsies .AP
anime_andrew said:Lutga said:
Just finishing Nerima as we speak in fact
AP
Yay!
*unrelated but still its a good celebration considering how long it's taken*
thedoctor2016
Mushi-shi
Why is BECK DVD only if a BD upscale exists?
thedoctor2016 said:
Because the Blu-ray version is hard to acquire (I think this is the main reason Andrew was mentioning in the past). Perhaps the Japanese licensor doesn't want it outside Japan.
Mangaranga
Za Warudo
I'm not suggesting this is the reason why, but going by the first half of episode 1, it doesn't look like there's enough of a difference outside of the OP/ED between the JP BD and US DVD to justify the additional multiple thousands of pounds it'd cost to create a BD master themselves. That doesn't mean the BD is inherantly bad though, as I'd certainly take upscaled Japanese DVD masters over a US DVD release 99% of the time (Shana probably being the only exception). Assuming they can actually access the masters to start with, If AL could split the costs with say, Madman or Funimation and bring out a BD down the line I'd totally be down for it.thedoctor2016 said:
Lutga
Mad Scientist
I've always been of the theory that a good DVD version can be *very* close to being as good as a Blu-Ray treatment - but then, that's me, and I'm hardly the fussiest when it comes to visual quality.
We're a world away from some of the awful DVD transfers we used to get even as recently as five years ago.
We're a world away from some of the awful DVD transfers we used to get even as recently as five years ago.
IncendiaryLemon
Captain Karen
Lutga said:
I'm of this opinion too. I've noticed some DVDs I've bought recently have been extremely good quality. Of course, I'd always rather have a BD, but DVDs aren't awful, most of them are pretty damn good now.
HdE
Comic Book Guy
Lutga said:
Yeah - this. I've been blown away by the quality of certain releases wher I've opted for DVD over Blu Ray (usually for financial reasons, or because a Region B Blu Ray doesn't exist.)
I do notice the difference in sound quality, and whenever episode counts per disc start getting high, I'm more likely to spot artefacting and noise. But there are discs out there like Nozomi's Space Adventure Cobra and Anime Limited's Lord Marksman and Vanadis that are so good the format literally never crosses my mind again after watching.
Yami
Thousand Master
The quality of a DVD is largely down to the encoding. Second Run have recently put out some Blu-Rays, but their recent DVDs were exemplary of what the format can achieve with a good encoder. I don't see any benefit of upscaling over properly encoding a SD master. Plus the purist in me gets a bit itchy with the idea that information has been added to the frame that wasn't present in the original source/broadcast - even if it is just duplication of what was there through some sort of algorithmic means.
Just Passing Through
The Wildcard
All things being equal, in terms of AV, I'll always prefer BD to DVD. You should get a lot less in the way of compression on BD compared to DVD. Pause any BD and you should get a perfect frame. Pause a DVD and you'll have to put up with aliasing, picture break-up and pixellation, depending on how frenetic an action sequence it is. The OP of Black Lagoon, where the newsprint is moving around the screen is a case in point. Depending on the source that you are mastering from, you should get better colour definition as well. If the SD masters come from the initial animation files that is, and not just the DVD master transferred to BD. There's frame rate issues on top of that, 24fps as opposed to interlaced 30fps NTSC, or PAL speed-up or standards conversion. On top of all that, lossless audio. Plus comparatively scratchproof discs.
It is very rare that I find a DVD preferable to a Blu-ray, and that's usually down to a pooch screw in the authoring. The original Ghost in the Shell movie is one instance (Manga have never been able to get that one right, so I'll stick with the least screwy version), Gankutsuou's BDs are visibly DNR'd compared to Geneon's DVDs. And outside anime the Life on Mars series has audio slowdown going from native 25fps PAL to 24fps Blu-rays.
It is very rare that I find a DVD preferable to a Blu-ray, and that's usually down to a pooch screw in the authoring. The original Ghost in the Shell movie is one instance (Manga have never been able to get that one right, so I'll stick with the least screwy version), Gankutsuou's BDs are visibly DNR'd compared to Geneon's DVDs. And outside anime the Life on Mars series has audio slowdown going from native 25fps PAL to 24fps Blu-rays.
HdE
Comic Book Guy
Line definition is the big deal for me when looking at BD versus DVD. There are still some pretty horribly ghosted home video releases floating around. Viz Media's Lagrange - The Flower of Rinne DVDs are especially disappointing in that respect. And MVM's Captain Earth release (which I take it is no different to any other version of it on DVD) suffers with it quite noticeably.
I like clean lines, so I'll still go for BD over DVD when I can. But a quality DVD is always a welcome alternative - especially if the show is something I'm not especially fussed about getting a super high quality version of.
I like clean lines, so I'll still go for BD over DVD when I can. But a quality DVD is always a welcome alternative - especially if the show is something I'm not especially fussed about getting a super high quality version of.
Mangaranga
Za Warudo
I think part of the reason DVD transfers look better is down to a few things. First of all anime productions are done at a much higher resolution nowadays compared to 5 years ago. A lot of productions back then were still somewhere between SD and 720p, whereas nowadays pretty much everyone animates between 720p and 1080p (some native 1080p) so you're getting better looking productions even when downscaled. I could be wrong, but I'm also under the impression that licensors generally get better quality materials to work with nowadays too (either via Hard Drives or HDCAM SR tapes instead of HDCAM tapes.) Could also be wrong on this point too but I'm pretty sure there's also more progressive DVDs around nowadays.Lutga said:
If it helps, Viz's BD was also pretty terrible. The BDs themselves were 1080i and sourced from broadcast masters.HdE said:
