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Mangaranga said:
Shiroi Hane said:
Mangaranga said:
Yeah I just checked my emails and saw the reply to my tweet, I'm not interested in a PAL conversion though.
It's not going to be an NTS to PAL conversion; Madman work from HD Masters these days. It will be sped up, but pitch-corrected.
That's what I meant when I said PAL conversion. It's still a deal breaker. I notice the speedup far too easily and it bugs the hell out of me. I want to watch the show how it was intended to be watched.
DVDs should just die when it comes to anime...
I can't stand NTSC. Lower resolution that PAL for newer shows which are converted from HD source, 480 lines against 576, and worse NTSC is 60 fields per second, so they have to use 2:3 pulldown to extrapolate 6 extra frames per second. And very few anime distributors bother mastering their shows in progressive, so we have to live with interlaced playback with combing artefacts and the like, when the ideal situation would be like NSTC mainstream releases, where you'd just switch to progressive and have it decoded back to 24 fps. Try that with anime and you get jerky juddery playback. Some region 1 distros have a problem with the original colours as well. Compare the US Welcome to the NHK, oversaturated mess, to the UK release, with a decent colour balance. The only positive about NTSC is that the audio isn't unsullied.
Don't like PAL either. Yeah, you have the higher resolution, which makes a lot of difference coming from HD sourced anime, and yes you have essentially progressive playback inherent in the format with 50 fields per second equating to 25 frames per second. But playing back at 25 frames per second speeds everything up by 4%. The animation may be smooth and unjuddery, but the audio takes a hit. You either get it chipmunked, or you get it pitch corrected. Good pitch correction is possible, as most mainstream DVDs released in the UK demonstrate, but get it wrong and you wind up with distorted audio with clipping. People complained about that with the first Lord of the Rings Extended Edition, but I haven't heard it in any other Hollywood feature. I do however hear it on most of the Madman sourced transfers I have watched recently, as they are the only AU distro pitch correcting their PAL sped up anime. Siren and Hanabee appear to leave it chipmunked, which in this case I actually prefer as the least annoying of the two options.
There's a rare PAL disc, utterly horrible to watch, that corrects for the missing frame by repeating the 24th frame to create a 25th, thereby maintaining the original audio. The result is a juddery mess to watch, see the Redline DVD for an example, with the image freezing every 24th frame for a fraction of a second..
In an ideal world, all anime would be released as 1080p Blu-ray, but some distros release it as 1080i 60 Hz in the US (interlacing artefacts again), while others in Europe release it as 1080i 50 Hz, which brings the PAL conversion nonsense to a higher definition. Pitch corrected audio again, and in once case repeated frames.
