Defective or Disappointing UK Anime Discs
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Just Passing Through
The Wildcard
Re: Defective UK anime discs
One Piece Collection 1 is 26 episodes running to 637 minutes
One Piece Collection 2 is 27 episodes running to 637 minutes... From Collection 2, Madman started creating PAL masters, and the 4% speedup on 26 episodes leaves enough space for one whole other episode.
One Piece Collection 1 is 26 episodes running to 637 minutes
One Piece Collection 2 is 27 episodes running to 637 minutes... From Collection 2, Madman started creating PAL masters, and the 4% speedup on 26 episodes leaves enough space for one whole other episode.
Just Passing Through
The Wildcard
Re: Defective UK anime discs
Cat Planet Cuties
No Australian PAL masters were available, so Manga had to create their own masters. Not quite perfect...
It has subtitles and signs, but Manga are limited to how many subtitles and signs they can how on screen at one time. To their credit, they try and show as much as possible, but in the opening scene, there is screen text, foreground dialogue, and background dialogue to translate, and it gets too fast and too confusing to differentiate. This happens once or twice in the show, and not all screen text gets translated.
Japanese audio is missing on some of the extra features (mostly next ep previews) although subtitle translations for Japanese dialogue are present.
And glitch 1.05:33 into disc 1, a heavily pixellated frame followed by a blank frame.
Cat Planet Cuties
No Australian PAL masters were available, so Manga had to create their own masters. Not quite perfect...
It has subtitles and signs, but Manga are limited to how many subtitles and signs they can how on screen at one time. To their credit, they try and show as much as possible, but in the opening scene, there is screen text, foreground dialogue, and background dialogue to translate, and it gets too fast and too confusing to differentiate. This happens once or twice in the show, and not all screen text gets translated.
Japanese audio is missing on some of the extra features (mostly next ep previews) although subtitle translations for Japanese dialogue are present.
And glitch 1.05:33 into disc 1, a heavily pixellated frame followed by a blank frame.
Re: Defective UK anime discs
Good thing I have planned to get Funimation's version (It's a Combo pack, though Region Locked)
Just Passing Through said:
Good thing I have planned to get Funimation's version (It's a Combo pack, though Region Locked)
Sparrowsabre7
Za Warudo
Re: Defective UK anime discs
I don't know if this counts as defective, but I'm only 2 episodes in an Bakuman has some pretty dodgy subtitling. Words occasionally missing, or worded in such a way that makes me think they were done by someone to whom English is not a first language. Like "I'm the only to talk to about it" where there should obviously be a "one" in that sentence or "Did your parents be against your mangaka career" instead of "were your parants against".
In a sub only release, that's pretty significant. I doesn't stop understanding of what's being said, but enough to annoy, like an eyelash in your eye, or a hair in your mouth.
I don't know if this counts as defective, but I'm only 2 episodes in an Bakuman has some pretty dodgy subtitling. Words occasionally missing, or worded in such a way that makes me think they were done by someone to whom English is not a first language. Like "I'm the only to talk to about it" where there should obviously be a "one" in that sentence or "Did your parents be against your mangaka career" instead of "were your parants against".
In a sub only release, that's pretty significant. I doesn't stop understanding of what's being said, but enough to annoy, like an eyelash in your eye, or a hair in your mouth.
Re: Defective UK anime discs
Yes it's defective, its said that Kaze translated the subtitles from Japanese to French to English. Check a few pages back into this thread for more details about this or Page 1.
Sparrowsabre7 said:
Yes it's defective, its said that Kaze translated the subtitles from Japanese to French to English. Check a few pages back into this thread for more details about this or Page 1.
Re: Defective UK anime discs
Another Defective: Tiger & Bunny Part 3
Same reason with previous parts on Blu-ray, lack of extras included.
OP/ED has no subtitles
Locked Subtitles
Some on screen signs not translated
More details via review
Another Defective: Tiger & Bunny Part 3
Same reason with previous parts on Blu-ray, lack of extras included.
OP/ED has no subtitles
Locked Subtitles
Some on screen signs not translated
More details via review
ConanThe3rd
Railgun
Re: Defective UK anime discs
Maybe it's from one of thier Naruto season boxsets?Ath said:Yeah One Piece is just a typo:
I'm struggling to think where they copied and pasted 485 minutes from though. Have Manga released any 20 episode series lately?
Mangaranga
Za Warudo
Re: Defective UK anime discs
They're still keeping that **** up? Even Viz has subtitles for the OP/ED/Signs, so after the complaints regarding the first half of the show Kaze have absolutely no excuse not to.NormanicGrav said:
Just Passing Through
The Wildcard
Re: Defective UK anime discs
Steins;Gate Part 1
Don't get too worried, it's just a little sound drop in the Japanese audio, 2.11:37 into disc 1 on the Blu-ray, the same place taking PAL into account on the DVD. It happens during a quiet bit, when there's no dialogue and the background audio is dialled down. The only way to confirm is to compare it to the English audio, which retains a bit of background audio, while the Japanese just cuts out.
Incidentally, there were no PAL masters for the DVD, so Manga had to create those themselves. They have the two line subtitle limit to deal with, so not all the on screen text that the Blu-ray translates is translated on the DVDs, and the DVDs don't have the snazzy screen text placement that the Blu-ray does. Also, the DVDs use a subtly different subtitle script to the Blu-rays. Finally, the audio commentaries and the textless credits are Blu-ray exclusives in the UK.
Steins;Gate Part 1
Don't get too worried, it's just a little sound drop in the Japanese audio, 2.11:37 into disc 1 on the Blu-ray, the same place taking PAL into account on the DVD. It happens during a quiet bit, when there's no dialogue and the background audio is dialled down. The only way to confirm is to compare it to the English audio, which retains a bit of background audio, while the Japanese just cuts out.
Incidentally, there were no PAL masters for the DVD, so Manga had to create those themselves. They have the two line subtitle limit to deal with, so not all the on screen text that the Blu-ray translates is translated on the DVDs, and the DVDs don't have the snazzy screen text placement that the Blu-ray does. Also, the DVDs use a subtly different subtitle script to the Blu-rays. Finally, the audio commentaries and the textless credits are Blu-ray exclusives in the UK.
Re: Defective UK anime discs
With these mistakes, I've pretty much given up on the UK anime market (well exceptions include All the Anime and some of MVM's Blu-ray stuff). Aniplex, Funimation and Sentai have done better versions of the products despite being region locked to A or 1. The UK does have an advantage in some cases, for instance Kids on the Slope BD defective-free, and FLCL BD will use the Australian masters that had better upscaling than Funimations. For the five that I have; Baccano!, Baka & Test S1, Black Lagoon S1/S2, Clannad and Ga-Rei-Zero; with the exception of Black Lagoon they had no Blu-ray release because of various reasons. I'm okay with getting more imports but at the same time is damaging the sales for the UK versions.
Edited my response to make some sense.
bakum4tsu said:
With these mistakes, I've pretty much given up on the UK anime market (well exceptions include All the Anime and some of MVM's Blu-ray stuff). Aniplex, Funimation and Sentai have done better versions of the products despite being region locked to A or 1. The UK does have an advantage in some cases, for instance Kids on the Slope BD defective-free, and FLCL BD will use the Australian masters that had better upscaling than Funimations. For the five that I have; Baccano!, Baka & Test S1, Black Lagoon S1/S2, Clannad and Ga-Rei-Zero; with the exception of Black Lagoon they had no Blu-ray release because of various reasons. I'm okay with getting more imports but at the same time is damaging the sales for the UK versions.
Edited my response to make some sense.
VoxPhantom
Stand User
Re: Defective UK anime discs
Kaze's issues aren't mistakes, just their (sub)standard operating procedure.
Kaze's issues aren't mistakes, just their (sub)standard operating procedure.
Why?NormanicGrav said:
Re: Defective UK anime discs
While I can't be sad about damaging the sales of poorly-made UK editions, these two series would be a bad example of the US doing better versions when one is the source of the problem and the other has no equivalent US release at all
I'm not adding Horizon (yet?) as it's just the reviewer speculating that a video problem from the US release might be on the UK discs too. While they're probably right given past performance, there's always a chance that the UK licensor has stepped in and ensured the UK pressing is fixed (especially since they went to so much trouble changing the name of the series).
...ok, they probably haven't. But I live in hope that these things might happen.
Adding Persona though as those things are confirmed and actively harm enjoyment of the show.
R
While I can't be sad about damaging the sales of poorly-made UK editions, these two series would be a bad example of the US doing better versions when one is the source of the problem and the other has no equivalent US release at all
I'm not adding Horizon (yet?) as it's just the reviewer speculating that a video problem from the US release might be on the UK discs too. While they're probably right given past performance, there's always a chance that the UK licensor has stepped in and ensured the UK pressing is fixed (especially since they went to so much trouble changing the name of the series).
...ok, they probably haven't. But I live in hope that these things might happen.
Adding Persona though as those things are confirmed and actively harm enjoyment of the show.
R
Just Passing Through
The Wildcard
Re: Defective UK anime discs
Nightwalker Complete Series... MVM
Another early Siren visual title (from 2009) and more subtitle timing issues
Disc 1 has subtitles in sync, but has 11 seconds of pixellation 54:22 into disc (during credits sequence) and three audio dropouts at 49:58, 59:46, and 1.28:00 (both languages)
Disc 2 has a fair amount of subtitle drift before and after the spoken lines.
Disc 3 has less in the way of sync problems but it has a couple of lines of subtiitles missing in each episode.
Fortunately the dub isn't too bad for early 2000s.
Nightwalker Complete Series... MVM
Another early Siren visual title (from 2009) and more subtitle timing issues
Disc 1 has subtitles in sync, but has 11 seconds of pixellation 54:22 into disc (during credits sequence) and three audio dropouts at 49:58, 59:46, and 1.28:00 (both languages)
Disc 2 has a fair amount of subtitle drift before and after the spoken lines.
Disc 3 has less in the way of sync problems but it has a couple of lines of subtiitles missing in each episode.
Fortunately the dub isn't too bad for early 2000s.
Emulsion
Death Scythe
Re: Defective UK anime discs
The Horizon on the Middle of Nowhere: Season 1 issue, I believe is on the US BD as well. I am sure I have read about it some where. If you look here under additional screen captures, 8th image down you will see some jagged edges.
I pretty sure the UK version is just a clone of the US version, come via Madman.
Thought I would add this just in case anyone was thinking of getting the US release, thinking it wouldn't have the video issue.
The Horizon on the Middle of Nowhere: Season 1 issue, I believe is on the US BD as well. I am sure I have read about it some where. If you look here under additional screen captures, 8th image down you will see some jagged edges.
I pretty sure the UK version is just a clone of the US version, come via Madman.
Thought I would add this just in case anyone was thinking of getting the US release, thinking it wouldn't have the video issue.
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That's what I meant; I can't see any evidence that the US problem with Horizon has made its way into the UK release (I have the US disc). As soon as there is a hands-on report about the UK release it will go on the list, but reporting every US issue as a confirmed UK problem will just confuse people. In Horizon's case there was the problem with the series' title being changed for the UK and the BBFC kicked up a fuss as a result, so it's entirely possible that the discs were tweaked.
There was a clear opportunity for Madman and/or Manga to get it fixed before pressing their batch if either company cared about their customers enough.
Added Nightwalker. Gah, MVM, stop using grotty PAL transfers from Australians who don't seem to check their own discs.
R
That's what I meant; I can't see any evidence that the US problem with Horizon has made its way into the UK release (I have the US disc). As soon as there is a hands-on report about the UK release it will go on the list, but reporting every US issue as a confirmed UK problem will just confuse people. In Horizon's case there was the problem with the series' title being changed for the UK and the BBFC kicked up a fuss as a result, so it's entirely possible that the discs were tweaked.
There was a clear opportunity for Madman and/or Manga to get it fixed before pressing their batch if either company cared about their customers enough.
Added Nightwalker. Gah, MVM, stop using grotty PAL transfers from Australians who don't seem to check their own discs.
R