Defective or Disappointing UK Anime Discs

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NormanicGrav said:
This is basically the same similar problem that Trigun: Badlands Rumble had and also to Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 with all the extras missing with the Blu-ray version (because they shoved 25 episodes to two Blu-ray discs [R1 did this but somehow managed to include the extras], let's hope Funimation doesn't do that) and only few content with the DVD version.
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I gave up on Kaze's release of Tiger & Bunny, and I'm not going to say anything about shoving what is effectively 13 episodes onto one disc, but what you mentioned about extras is what I find really annoying. Kaze don't even use anywhere near the whole space on disc. Code Geass Season 1 for example, that includes the extras yet each disc is only ~36gb or something like that (Yes, for 12/13 episodes). Tiger and Bunny Parts 1 and 2 are ~19gb per disc yet include nothing. My point is that the extra space isn't being used to improve the video quality nor do they include extras.
 
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Mangaranga said:
NormanicGrav said:
This is basically the same similar problem that Trigun: Badlands Rumble had and also to Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 with all the extras missing with the Blu-ray version (because they shoved 25 episodes to two Blu-ray discs [R1 did this but somehow managed to include the extras], let's hope Funimation doesn't do that) and only few content with the DVD version.
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I gave up on Kaze's release of Tiger & Bunny, and I'm not going to say anything about shoving what is effectively 13 episodes onto one disc, but what you mentioned about extras is what I find really annoying. Kaze don't even use anywhere near the whole space on disc. Code Geass Season 1 for example, that includes the extras yet each disc is only ~36gb or something like that (Yes, for 12/13 episodes). Tiger and Bunny Parts 1 and 2 are ~19gb per disc yet include nothing. My point is that the extra space isn't being used to improve the video quality nor do they include extras.
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It has to be a cost cutting measure on their part, after all not licencing the extras must save them something, it's profoundly disappointing though from a fans perspective. I think S1 of Geass only kept it's extra because there were a few story related elements in the picture diaries.
 
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For those who were wondering about the subtitles for Blue Exorcist:

Shelly said:
are the subtitle problems fixed? in the dvd there were several lines missing over a few episodes
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JG of Manga UK said:
Yes. The lines you speak of are present on this BD version. (I know because I've checked ;) ) ^JG
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Shiroi Hane said:
Alternatively, perhaps they want to limit the amount of French to English translation they have to do ^^;
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Begs the question of why translate at all when they could buy/licence that also from the US? Though judging by the standards of their subs the office tea boy is using his French to English dictionary so they probably are saving some cash
 
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Deadman Wonderland - Minor Defective

Note that the UK version also has the censored Japanese dub used from the Japanese release, Funimation release and Madman release.

- Manga's release does not have the Funimation dub for the OVA episode The Red Knife Wielder.
- For the Japanese Dub; the English subtitles have gaps each time words have been censored on Disc 1, Disc 2 has bleeped phrases but no gaps and Disc 3 has none of them.
- Since they are using the Japanese masters, there are only two chapter points on each episode like All the Anime's release of Cowboy Bebop. So you can't skip the OP, ED and Previews.
 
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NormanicGrav said:
Deadman Wonderland - Minor Defective

Note that the UK version also has the censored Japanese dub used from the Japanese release, Funimation release and Madman release.

- Manga's release does not have the Funimation dub for the OVA episode The Red Knife Wielder.
- For the Japanese Dub; the English subtitles have gaps each time words have been censored on Disc 1, Disc 2 has bleeped phrases but no gaps and Disc 3 has none of them.
- Since they are using the Japanese masters, there are only two chapter points on each episode like All the Anime's release of Cowboy Bebop. So you can't skip the OP, ED and Previews.
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This leaves me with some questions...
- Did Funi dub the OVA? If so, why is it not included? (Not like I'm going to watch the dub anyway because GREG AYRES)
- Do we have a songs/signs track?
- Since they are using three discs, are they actually using the 7gig JP BD masters or is it another Madoka scenario (3gb episodes across 3 BD25s)
- Locked Subtitles?

No proper chaptering is a massive annoyance for me as it was with Cowboy Bebop too. Deadman Wonderland isn't a massive priority for me anyway. I might pick it up (especially if it does indeed have the JP files) otherwise I may just wait to see if Funi eventaully releases it and have a faultless/annoyance free version.
 
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Mangaranga said:
This leaves me with some questions...
- Did Funi dub the OVA? If so, why is it not included? (Not like I'm going to watch the dub anyway because GREG AYRES)
- Do we have a songs/signs track?
- Since they are using three discs, are they actually using the 7gig JP BD masters or is it another Madoka scenario (3gb episodes across 3 BD25s)
- Locked Subtitles?

No proper chaptering is a massive annoyance for me as it was with Cowboy Bebop too. Deadman Wonderland isn't a massive priority for me anyway. I might pick it up (especially if it does indeed have the JP files) otherwise I may just wait to see if Funi eventaully releases it and have a faultless/annoyance free version.
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- Did Funi dub the OVA? If so, why is it not included? (Not like I'm going to watch the dub anyway because GREG AYRES)

Yes they dubbed it and created a subtitle track. Manga actually created their own subtitle track for it (UK idiom is used), which leads me to believe they just didn't have the rights to Funimation's materials for the OVA. This doesn't affect the series BTW

- Do we have a songs/signs track?

Yes there is a songs/signs track, although only the end theme has lyric translations. The OP is in English anyway.

- Since they are using three discs, are they actually using the 7gig JP BD masters or is it another Madoka scenario (3gb episodes across 3 BD25s)

We have 3 BD 50s, so lots of room, and a top-notch video and audio presentation (Greg Ayres not withstanding). And if you think Deadman Wonderland looks good for an anime Blu-ray, wait until you see Blue Exorcist!

- Locked Subtitles?

From the menu you have full control over the audio, and can choose between subs, and songs/signs. If you want the subs off completely you can do so directly with the remote.
 
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Just Passing Through said:
- Since they are using three discs, are they actually using the 7gig JP BD masters or is it another Madoka scenario (3gb episodes across 3 BD25s)

We have 3 BD 50s, so lots of room, and a top-notch video and audio presentation (Greg Ayres not withstanding). And if you think Deadman Wonderland looks good for an anime Blu-ray, wait until you see Blue Exorcist!
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I have... Aniplex's release was 3 BD 50s with the Japanese video, so episodes are 7gigs each. Because they've not been compressed again it looks really bloody nice. I'm assuming the UK release has the same masters as AniplexUSA's release so people are getting a lot more than their money's worth, especially since all the extras are included and dubbed too. I do wonder whether Bakemonogatari was the same too...

Just Passing Through said:
- Locked Subtitles?

From the menu you have full control over the audio, and can choose between subs, and songs/signs. If you want the subs off completely you can do so directly with the remote.
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So the subtitles aren't locked then, as in locked to the Japanese track anyway?
 
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Mangaranga said:
I have... Aniplex's release was 3 BD 50s with the Japanese video, so episodes are 7gigs each. Because they've not been compressed again it looks really bloody nice. I'm assuming the UK release has the same masters as AniplexUSA's release so people are getting a lot more than their money's worth, especially since all the extras are included and dubbed too. I do wonder whether Bakemonogatari was the same too...
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I think MVM/Hanabee's release of Bakemonogatari kept the Character Commentaries.

DVD issues for Blue Exorcist have been confirmed to be fixed in the Definitive Edition Blu-ray release. It's most likely because Manga is using the Aniplex masters and content instead of Madman.
The good thing about this release is that there are no problems with the subtitles, certainly no missing lines, no wayward characters, and no questionable punctuation. It makes you wonder how Madman got their DVD subtitling so wrong.
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Berserk Golden Age Arc: The Egg of the King - Minor Defective

I've been watching the Blu-ray version (from my Collector's Edition set) and I noticed they didn't bother putting a signs only subtitle for the English dub despite being on the DVD version (good QC Kaze haha). Oh, and it's locked subtitles. Plus, to make things even more annoying the Viz version has an extra (Production Art Gallery) while Kaze's DVD & BD have none. As for Battle for Doldrey both Madman and Viz have extras while we don't. Sucks to be British doesn't it?
 
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Eh, I haven't got around to buying Battle for Doldrey yet due to debating which version to get. (Khazi or Viz)
This has pretty much sealed it for me though, so I'll most likely buy Doldrey as well as re-buying the Egg of the King from Viz.
Doesn't matter either way anyway, both will be sub locked, both work on Region B players, just one region's product is worse than the others.
I hope Khazi hurry the hell up and die already so the UK can get back to getting clones of other region discs again.
 
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Mangaranga said:
Eh, I haven't got around to buying Battle for Doldrey yet due to debating which version to get. (Khazi or Viz)
This has pretty much sealed it for me though, so I'll most likely buy Doldrey as well as re-buying the Egg of the King from Viz.
Doesn't matter either way anyway, both will be sub locked, both work on Region B players, just one region's product is worse than the others.
I hope Khazi hurry the hell up and die already so the UK can get back to getting clones of other region discs again.
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Is there any release they haven't mucked up? Answer is no.

Well before they die, they should drop the licenses for K and Future Diary because we don't want another Bandai problem where newly licensed titles that haven't been released end up in license limbo, for example Nichijou. And probably an apology to the fans for some of the problems like Bakuman (we heard Manga apologise but not Kaze) on the products and give a reason to what happened with Anime on Demand since Manga couldn't explain it on their live podcast.

Anywho..

Bleach: Every Release done by Kaze on DVD - Minor Defective

Ever since Kaze took over Bleach, they had been making some annoyances..

- No OP/ED subtitles
- Locked Subtitles, but we have a Signs only track for English dub and English subtitles for Japanese dub
- Mainly lack of extras but there are Karaokes of the credit sequences 'minus the credit text, but with a romanji (Japanese in English script) burnt in subtitle track that insists that you sing along'.

Series 9 Part 1 suffered with no next episode previews and the Illustrated Guide to Soul Reapers Golden comedy sketches.
Series 9 Part 2 managed to restore the next episode previews and the Illustrated Guide to Soul Reapers Golden comedy sketches but Kaze didn't bother bringing the previous episodes onto here as an extra.
Series 10 Part 1 has a slight error in the subtitling regarding Szayelaporro’s Zanpakuto special move ‘Fornicaras’. In the Japanese dub, it’s written as completely differently in the subtitles, La Lujuriosa or something similar.
Series 10 Part 2 has most episodes end with Illustrated Guide to Soul Reapers Golden comedy sketches.
Series 11 has most episodes end with Illustrated Guide to Soul Reapers Golden comedy sketches.
 
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Re: Defective UK anime discs

Not a fan of extras myself. I wouldn't class missing extras as a defect though. Personally I think this threads title should be a little different, say "defects and differences". A lot of the stuff listed like no extras, not having a certain audio track or no signs subs, none are really defects as they wasn't put on the disc in the first place.

Defects would be subtitle errors, encoding glitches, etc...

Don't get me wrong I'm not knocking the content, I like this thread as there is some good info here.
 
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demonix said:
NormanicGrav said:
Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works - No Extras on Blu-ray version
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There weren't any on the US release, so you can't class it as a defect.
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This thread has developed very loose definition of what a defect is. If we're taking lack of extras as a defect in the first place, does it really have to be "more defective" than the US disc to count?
 
Any better? ;p

To be clear about the last one, is the problem that the DVD version has specific extras and the BD doesn't, or just that it doesn't have extras? I'd personally like to know if I were buying and it was the former case, but the latter is pretty common.

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