Defective or Disappointing UK Anime Discs

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Emulsion said:
The Horizon on the Middle of Nowhere: Season 1 issue, I believe is on the US BD as well. I am sure I have read about it some where. If you look here under additional screen captures, 8th image down you will see some jagged edges.

I pretty sure the UK version is just a clone of the US version, come via Madman.
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I believe the only clones of Sentai discs have come direct from Sentai (e.g. Xam'd). Madman have their own facilities so make their own masters with their logos etc - if the problem on Sentai's was introduced during mastering and wasn't with the source materials (or Madman have got better source materials) then their's may be OK.

Rui said:
There was a clear opportunity for Madman and/or Manga to get it fixed before pressing their batch if either company cared about their customers enough.
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You do remember the Haruhi mono audio debacle? ^^;
 
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Rui said:
That's what I meant; I can't see any evidence that the US problem with Horizon has made its way into the UK release (I have the US disc). As soon as there is a hands-on report about the UK release it will go on the list, but reporting every US issue as a confirmed UK problem will just confuse people. In Horizon's case there was the problem with the series' title being changed for the UK and the BBFC kicked up a fuss as a result, so it's entirely possible that the discs were tweaked.

There was a clear opportunity for Madman and/or Manga to get it fixed before pressing their batch if either company cared about their customers enough.

R
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Received the UK Blu-ray of Horizon season 1 today and can confirm that it has the same problem as the US release.
 
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Sorry to hear that, Titan.

Shiroi Hane said:
Rui said:
There was a clear opportunity for Madman and/or Manga to get it fixed before pressing their batch if either company cared about their customers enough.
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You do remember the Haruhi mono audio debacle? ^^;
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Please read my line with mildly bitter undertones and strong emphasis on the 'if' :D

R
 
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Titan said:
Received the UK Blu-ray of Horizon season 1 today and can confirm that it has the same problem as the US release.
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That's a shame, I did ping a pm off to the Manga rep on these forums a few months ago but I guess that was either too late or just plain out of their hands
 
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Cowboy Bebop
I noticed a picture glitch on episode 2. 17 minutes 39 - 41 seconds in.
I've contacted Anime Ltd and they said they must have missed it in QC. Maybe it's actually time to get someone to sit down and watch the thing from start to finish
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Just Passing Through said:
Ario said:
Cowboy Bebop
I noticed a picture glitch on episode 2. 17 minutes 39 - 41 seconds in.
I've contacted Anime Ltd and they said they must have missed it in QC. Maybe it's actually time to get someone to sit down and watch the thing from start to finish
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Damnit. I must have blinked for that frame!
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Further in the thread they also mention the discs are mislabled 1-6, 7-13 when it should be 1-7,8-13.

Interestingly Andrew has indicated they'll correct for the next run and do some extra disc 1's for anyone that's bothered by the glitch

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p ... tcount=101

I have to say that I'm somewhat disappointed about the disc numbering error, that should of been an easy spot. A glitch in the image is harder to spot but it's dented their rep a little I think, plus they really should just sit down and spend the 4-8 hours you need to watch these shows to make sure things are all good
 
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Whilst it's not actually a defect Cowboy Bebop is 1080i isn't it? (Or at least partially 1080i) The japanese Blurays were at least.
The packaging states that it's 1080p.

EDIT: The audio commentaries are set up in the same ridiculously annoying way as Code Geass - meaning you can't switch to the commentary track during the episode - the track is hidden during normal playback.
The commentary tracks can only be played back by selecting them from the extras menu.

I've had two cases where the play all button also did not work properly for me - instead returning me to the menu at the end of the first episode.

EDIT2: Play All still doesn't seem to work properly. Went from episode 1 to 2 fine but was sent the menu after episode 2. Played on a PS3 Slim for reference.

EDIT3: Another very minor point, this time not from me though since I never skip OP/EDs. One of my friends pointed out that there are no chapter markers after the OP and ED, so for example, if you wanted to skip the OP and hit the skip chapter button, you are instead sent to the halfway point of the episode rather than post OP.
 
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Inu x Boku SS from MVM as mentioned in the review on this site

The conversion to PAL is one of those repeat every 24th frame ones to maintain the original runtime jobbies, which results in regular (once per second) jerks during pans and scrolls.

The discs have also inherited the intermittent rhythmic pixellation problem from the Region 1 DVDs.
 
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Just Passing Through said:
Steins;Gate Part 1

Don't get too worried, it's just a little sound drop in the Japanese audio, 2.11:37 into disc 1 on the Blu-ray, the same place taking PAL into account on the DVD. It happens during a quiet bit, when there's no dialogue and the background audio is dialled down. The only way to confirm is to compare it to the English audio, which retains a bit of background audio, while the Japanese just cuts out.

Incidentally, there were no PAL masters for the DVD, so Manga had to create those themselves. They have the two line subtitle limit to deal with, so not all the on screen text that the Blu-ray translates is translated on the DVDs, and the DVDs don't have the snazzy screen text placement that the Blu-ray does. Also, the DVDs use a subtly different subtitle script to the Blu-rays. Finally, the audio commentaries and the textless credits are Blu-ray exclusives in the UK.
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I have the DVD version, episode 1 was missing the commentary but episode 12 had one. The box still advertises "commentaries" though.
 
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Apparently the Blu Ray disk for Black Lagoon: Roberta's Blood Trail (Funimtion) seems to have playback problems with Samsung Blu Ray players
 
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That would have to go in a (currently non-existent) Defective US anime discs thread, I think - unless the UK version is using the same disc?

R
 
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Rui said:
That would have to go in a (currently non-existent) Defective US anime discs thread, I think - unless the UK version is using the same disc?

R
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Kaze will most likely use the French discs and just add the dub with it.
 
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Just Passing Through said:
The conversion to PAL is one of those repeat every 24th frame ones to maintain the original runtime jobbies, which results in regular (once per second) jerks during pans and scrolls.
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It's very rare to see pulldown these days. ADV used to do it, but the bulk of PAL masters are done by Madman these days who do frame rate conversion and pitch correction. Siren do the same but AFAIK without the pitch correction.
The review says that the trailers are MVMs rather than Hanabee's, right?
 
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I think they made a mistake with the authoring, and instead of putting the Hanabee logo at the head of the trailers as they do on all other Hanabee authored discs, they put the MVM logo on by mistake. While MVM have released Kids on the Slope, and Bodacious Space Pirates. They haven't announced any licences for Dusk Maiden of Amnesia, Mysterious Girlfriend X, Hakuoki – Demon of the Fleeting Blossom, or Hiiro no Kakera – The Tamayori Princess Saga.

I wish it was pulldown, I could live with an old fashioned NTSC-PAL standards conversion. This is different and far more annoying.

Here's my review of it, and I grabbed a few frames illustrating that pixellation.
 
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RahXephon - Minor Defective Issue

Since 101 Films are re-releasing (or in gaming terms porting the content without changing anything) ADV licensed anime again, their next title RahXephon has kept the out of sync subtitles on Episode 2 from the original ADV release. Other than that, everything else is perfectly fine to watch.

MyReviewer said:
Once again, these are the old ADV discs repackaged, which means that the out of sync subtitles on episode 2 that you’ll see with this collection are identical to the out of sync subtitles on the ten year old discs. Other than that, they are free of error and accurately timed.
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I'd like to know if the Daphne defect has been fixed with the MVM re-release or kept.

Daphne in the Brilliant Blue (MVM): Subtitle sync problems in volume 3.
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Tiger & Bunny: Part 4 - Defective Content

- Kaze's usual locked subtitles and captions
- Few captions have been missed out with the subtitling.
- Once again, Extras are DVD only.
- During the extra content, they have inaccurate chaptering with some before the end of the segment.
- None of the on-screen text & captions are translated in the extras.
- White subtitles against White Kanji, makes it quite tough to read like in Code Geass R2.
- Karaoke credits have been dropped.

OP and ED lyrics have not been mentioned but judging by the other three volumes having the same problems, then it would be obvious that this set would have the same issue.

UN-GO - Missing Extras

Just to add some more information for UN-GO alongside the incompatibility etc.

All the extras that were included in other versions around the world; Inga Nikki shorts, Chapter of the Inga Alternative Opening, UN-GO 'All Night' Event & Japanese Promotionals are missing from the Kaze version. The Blu-ray version shoved all 11 episodes and the OVA on one Blu-ray disc, a silly move but kept the OP/ED songs. The DVD version which was split into two DVD discs, also lacks extras but kept the OP/ED songs.

This is basically the same similar problem that Trigun: Badlands Rumble had and also to Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion R2 with all the extras missing with the Blu-ray version (because they shoved 25 episodes to two Blu-ray discs [R1 did this but somehow managed to include the extras], let's hope Funimation doesn't do that) and only few content with the DVD version.
 
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