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I've just been thinking that Manga seem to be pushing more so pre-ordering more so as of late and i'm sure there was a point where they made a point to buy during the pre-order period as it would be cheaper.

While this is usually the normal anyway - i'm just thinking with Madoka, could it be Manga giving out a warning in a way of this is what might become more-so common in the future.

Plus with Manga seeming to base how positive a series is based on the first week of sales - what if Manga wants to switch the order around as I presume people generally wait on the Complete Collections over buying the singles. I'm guessing the general idea is that they would gain more buyers during the first release of that show by going with this pattern instead.
 
ConanThe3rd said:
As for the boxset, It sounds legit (though that box screams "Made in five minutes with Photoshop" and the company is a new one AFIK)
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They should have invested a few minutes more.

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Just goes to show how attitudes can change with time and information... It's a brave man who can admit he might have been wrong. But only if you can muster the courage to buy Madoka without being ashamed will you have reached my level.
 
reborn said:
I've just been thinking that Manga seem to be pushing more so pre-ordering more so as of late and i'm sure there was a point where they made a point to buy during the pre-order period as it would be cheaper.

While this is usually the normal anyway - i'm just thinking with Madoka, could it be Manga giving out a warning in a way of this is what might become more-so common in the future.

Plus with Manga seeming to base how positive a series is based on the first week of sales - what if Manga wants to switch the order around as I presume people generally wait on the Complete Collections over buying the singles. I'm guessing the general idea is that they would gain more buyers during the first release of that show by going with this pattern instead.
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I'm not 100% sure I follow, are you saying they are pusing people to pre-orders that will be slightly cheaper than when it hits the real & digital shelves? That seems quite a good idea in general, a slight discount for pre-orders is much better than the slash and burn discounts they were doing a while back a few weeks/months after release. Manga need to keep to a set price in general, release their 12/13 eps box sets for £30 every time and not drop the price for a good year, establish this is the norm rather than having people expect them to buckle after a month.

If your referring to boxset 1st and singles later I don't see that being viable at all. It may very well boost your initial sales but I don't really see many people buying the singles later, they'll just skip it. Better to consign singles to the history books, unless we are talking singles with extra goodies that might justify their existance.
 
I don't think this is Manga's decision at all - it's more than likely Aniplex's. After all, in the entire world, we're the only country getting the complete collection; which is also out during the same month as the first 2 movies come out in Japan. I know that DVD wise we may be the same region but there's the PAL-NTSC thing, but How easy would it be for someone in Japan to get a PAL set up?

I will give Manga the benefit of the doubt with Madoka; we all made it very clear that Madoka has to be released on blu-ray. They were initially sceptical about that due to Aniplex's BDs being region free and the general BD situation. They also learned from K-ON! that the singles market is dead here (ignoring the BD box set fiasco for a moment) so they have obviously tried to get us what we want - a BD release and a release that isn't divided into singles.

With Dragonball Z, They really were pushing pre-orders - probably because Toei were being so demanding. Toei have said we won't get One Piece unless DBZ sells well and MangaUK probably feels that while DBZ's sales will be good enough for them, they won't be enough for Toei.
 
ayase said:
It's a brave man who can admit he might have been wrong. But only if you can muster the courage to buy Madoka without being ashamed will you have reached my level.
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And if he wants to reach the top of the ladder then he has to cosplay as Madoka and be proud of it.



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Joshawott said:
I don't think this is Manga's decision at all - it's more than likely Aniplex's. After all, in the entire world, we're the only country getting the complete collection; which is also out during the same month as the first 2 movies come out in Japan. I know that DVD wise we may be the same region but there's the PAL-NTSC thing, but How easy would it be for someone in Japan to get a PAL set up?
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Very, since they can just use a computer these days ;) it's nowhere near the barrier it was back when VHS was king. However, whether they would want to is another matter, since the PAL conversion process usually leaves the disc with horrible sped-up sound, which is especially aggravating the more familiar with the original version you are.

R
 
Rui said:
Joshawott said:
I don't think this is Manga's decision at all - it's more than likely Aniplex's. After all, in the entire world, we're the only country getting the complete collection; which is also out during the same month as the first 2 movies come out in Japan. I know that DVD wise we may be the same region but there's the PAL-NTSC thing, but How easy would it be for someone in Japan to get a PAL set up?
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Very, since they can just use a computer these days ;) it's nowhere near the barrier it was back when VHS was king. However, whether they would want to is another matter, since the PAL conversion process usually leaves the disc with horrible sped-up sound, which is especially aggravating the more familiar with the original version you are.

R
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Yeah, and totally subjugating Manga (and UK viewers who haven't delt with Aniplex's bull trying to get the US versions) is FAR more easy than sorting the Flustercuck that is the Japanese Entertainment Market.

Oh Manga are still in the doghouse for not making it clear from the off that this was a thing but Aniplex's no saint ether in these matters.

800$ for Fate/Zero, Jesus Christ.

Joshawott said:
With Dragonball Z, They really were pushing pre-orders - probably because Toei were being so demanding. Toei have said we won't get One Piece unless DBZ sells well and MangaUK probably feels that while DBZ's sales will be good enough for them, they won't be enough for Toei.
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I get the feeling DBZ could sell Harry Potter Numbers and Toei would still ask for more.
 
ConanThe3rd said:
theirsbailiff said:
Moving away from us going on about the whole Aniplex/Manga situation and telling Conan to stop being a miserable git, I've somewhat found a listing on Amazon for a US release of Digimon Adventure. It's slated for an October release and I'm just wondering; is it legit?
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As for the boxset, It sounds legit (though that box screams "Made in five minutes with Photoshop" and the company is a new one AFIK) and with a whole block to play with Saban could pretty much air it next to Sonic X on the CW with nary a thought. The timing's right for it.
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NVG is a distributor (they have done digital distribution for NISA, Sentai and Mediablasters). We don't know who has actually licensed it, just that it probably isn't any of the usual suspects since they have their own distribution channels for DVDs.
The box art looks like a temporary mocked up placeholder.

reborn said:
I've just been thinking that Manga seem to be pushing more so pre-ordering more so as of late and i'm sure there was a point where they made a point to buy during the pre-order period as it would be cheaper.
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The closing of the VAT loophole means prices are going to rise closer to the RRP making pre-order discounts more important.
 
Shiroi Hane said:
The closing of the VAT loophole means prices are going to rise closer to the RRP making pre-order discounts more important.
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Or even over the RRP.

Rosencrantz said:
Manga need to keep to a set price in general, release their 12/13 eps box sets for £30 every time and not drop the price for a good year, establish this is the norm rather than having people expect them to buckle after a month.
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I would agree with this somewhat, I don't agree on the price myself though, I recently saw Fairy Tail volume 2 for £32 - spending £32 of 12 eps of a 100+ ep series (yes I know Manga only have 48 eps or so, so far)? Not going to happen. What does need to happen though is that the prices for part a and b need to be similar to each other. If I brought x part for £18, i'm not going to buy the second part for almost double the price.

Rosencrantz said:
If your referring to boxset 1st and singles later I don't see that being viable at all. It may very well boost your initial sales but I don't really see many people buying the singles later, they'll just skip it.
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My thinking was that there would probably be a limited number of complete boxsets. Isn't an company over in the US actually doing something similar to this for one of their current releases?
 
reborn said:
Rosencrantz said:
Manga need to keep to a set price in general, release their 12/13 eps box sets for £30 every time and not drop the price for a good year, establish this is the norm rather than having people expect them to buckle after a month.
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I would agree with this somewhat, I don't agree on the price myself though, I recently saw Fairy Tail volume 2 for £32 - spending £32 of 12 eps of a 100+ ep series (yes I know Manga only have 48 eps or so, so far)? Not going to happen. What does need to happen though is that the prices for part a and b need to be similar to each other. If I brought x part for £18, i'm not going to buy the second part for almost double the price.
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Yes i'd say things like Naruto/Bleach/Fairy Tail are the exception to my '£30 rule', series that are clocking in at 1-4 box sets can be £30 but once we hit the 100's they really need to drop the price to 20 odd.

I'm not sure it's my type of show either; and having read the first volume of the manga and found it pretty disappointing, I've pre-ordered the bluray with more than a little trepidation.
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Wanted to address this comment re madoka, having read the Manga after watching the 1st 8 episodes I could see it was trying to follow the story but I couldn't help but feel it gave stuff away far too easy and overall wasn't a great adaption. The Anime is just so much better in terms of appearance and pacing not to mention all the extras that animation/sound brings.
 
Agree so much with your comments about the Madoka manga Rosencrantz. Frankly, the anime is SO much better.

In fact, you know what, I'm just going to say it:
Kyubey is a much more fascinating character than Shakespeare's Iago in Othello.
There. I said it. I've studied classic novels and plays throughout my education and I have yet to find a character in anything so fascinating as Kyubey.

Also, it has an AMAZING soundtrack. I listen to it pretty much all day (no lie).
 
Just watched a FUNimation posted video of Christopher Bevins (voice director) about Shakugan no Shana II (I used a website to get around the blocking, teehee). Anyways, some small details:

It appears that FUNimation dubbed the show, not Ocean Studios as previously suggested. Ocean weren't mentioned, but a lot of FUNimation actors were (no cast announcements, just a list of some voice actors working on the show, such as Brina Palencia, Brittney Karbowski, Colleen Clinkenbeard, Cherami Leigh, Lindsey Seidel, Ian Sinclair, Josh Greely, Greg Ayres, Joel McDonald, Patrick Seitz). Thankfully, I'm glad. The dub cast from season 1 were awful.

Also, work on Shakugan no Shana: The Movie started before season 2, despite it not being given a release date. While he is working on the series, Christopher Bevins isn't working on the movie; Ian Sinclair is directing the movie, so he did a majority of the casting.

Best quote from the video though:
Q: "What does the voice producer do in a project like this?"
A: "Basically, e beat up the actors until they cry"

EDIT:
The Amazon listing for the blu-rays states that Kristian Ayre, Paul Dobson and Tabitha St. Germain are in the dub. Not sure if that's accurate, but that would suggest that at the very least, Yuji, Shana and Alastor are reprising their roles.
 
I remember during one of the ANN podcasts that FUNimation said they were speaking with Ocean. Either way though, I doubt I'll mind. Personally, while I liked Kristian Ayre's Yuji, Paul Dobson's Alastor and Trevor Devall's Friagne (and Marcosias, to an extent), I absolutely hated Cathy Weseluck's Khamsin and was indifferent to Tabitha St. Germain's Shana. Shana's first season was probably the only time I've watched a sub over a dub when a dub was available.

It does seem obvious that some season 1 characters haven't returned though, as Rojas was asked if FUNimation would redub season 1 with the new cast and he said no, as opposed to "No because the cast is the same" (not surprising though. I mean, would say, Ike's voice actor really return for such a small character?).
 
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