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teonzo said:
You can't know you like short-haired girls after compiling a questionnaire. You know that because when you see one you get ********.
Same goes for what you want to do in your life, with your life and for your life. There's no questionnaire that can tell what your real passion/passions is/are. Because no people outside you can know that and questionnaires are made by other people. You just need (easy to write, hard to do) to dig into yourself and find what really thrills you, what would lead you to feel satisfied.
You're right Teo. We all have to do what satisfies us, especially when it's hard. In my case short haired girls.

Spoonmage said:
Max Takeshi said:
Well, this place certainly took a turn for the political.
which is why someone needs to come out with a hilariously derailing one liner!
You're welcome.
 
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Kite said:
As for the job market, the number of people I've seen leaving the company I work for (soft-services for military bases) quoting they will be better off on JSA is probably the highest reason given for quitting (after the classic reason by young-people that the work is "too hard")

I don't think they've quite worked out how much you actually get from JSA, unless they're making less than £55 a week then they've made a horrible mistake.
 
Posted on twitter "March 17th.... Brace yourselves...... Plastic paddy's are coming"

I wasn't disappointed ¬__¬

More people "celebrate" St. Patrick's day more than St. George basically because its another excuse to get pissed, thing that makes me laugh is you'll have john bloggs from down the road posting online "having a Guinness for paddy's day!!" even though they can't stand Guinness and are 1/16th Irish

I'm proud to say i'm 1/2 Irish and 1/2 English, i drink Guinness and have for a long time because i like the benefits of drinking it (no hangover, great taste and not gassy) I celebrate both St. Georges day and St. Patricks day equally and think its sad for people to pretend to be something they're not simply to jump on a bandwagon.

Thus concludes this episode of Tachi's Opinion, Tune in next time when i speak about something else completely pointless
 
Better off including not having to pay for transportation to/from work or for child care (if applicable).

Most of them are youngsters, some are single parents (so probably get more from the state than just the basic job seekers allowance).
 
When I come to power I'm reforming the benefit system. Hell I'll pay for child care and transport if I have too but I will not stand idly by while the welfare state offers a better standard of pay than working. I'll do away with tax credits too, I'm not going to put my hand in wallets just to give it back again, you can just keep the money.
 
GRCC said:
When I come to power I'm reforming the benefit system. Hell I'll pay for child care and transport if I have too but I will not stand idly by while the welfare state offers a better standard of pay than working. I'll do away with tax credits too, I'm not going to put my hand in wallets just to give it back again, you can just keep the money.

Odd way of thinking about it GRCC. A bit like looking down the wrong end of a telescope.

How would you reform welfare? By doing what the current government is doing and slashing the benefits paid? Good way to increase poverty but it doesn't encourage people to take jobs. Why? Because there aren't enough jobs to go around. There is an oversupply of labour. Which would normally mean that employers could cut the wages offered. But the minimum wage stops them from doing so. Do you think that abolishing the minimum wage and trying to get people to work for £2/hr or less would be a good idea now? Do you want to work for that kind of pay?

The other way of going about it is to look at work. If the government changed the target and aimed for full employment then the number of jobs would increase to match the supply of labour. Neither the Conservatives nor Labour are talking about doing that. The Lib Dems don't count, but they aren't talking about it either.

Tax Credits are a big fudge. They were the result of Gordon Brown not biting the bullet and going for a proper progressive tax system. The current government have made things worse. Punishing the poorest (as usual for the Tories) and pretending that the tax burden is then fairly proportioned upwards. It's nothing like fair and the end results are, and will not be good.
 
Music really speaks to people in different ways and different depths,

I've been sat here listening to Pendulum, plan B, The Streets and Nero (all of which are remixes) with Pendulum i was pushed back to the time i went to see them live with Sub Focus as a supporting artist before he made it (literally 3 years ago now) and my mate Toby who i went with, haven't seen him in over a year now that he's married, i also went to london plenty of times with him to see stand up comedy or live bands, went to (i think it was liverpool st or something like that) and it was a dodgy area, thief's circulated the place there was loads of BBQ's cooking fresh meat, a house had been converted into a pub with graffiti all over the walls inside and out, druggies lighting up weed and also doing cocaine in plain view - it was a real eye opener even for a guy from Luton but it was a great day to drink and speak with people from another walk of life we went to a few bars and drank till the early hours before catching a train north.

i remember going to london for the expo and meeting up with Zin, Chaos and a few others; it was a really long day but it was a load of fun, i remember going to the oriental festival (i think it was called that) and tried char sui buns (again its been a while so i maybe wrong on the name) and bought a few bottles of Saki to mark the occasion, Though Chaos was there we never actually met up which to this day means that at some stage we have to meet up for that drink. (I switch the songs over now to Jamie T - Sheila) a few years ago me and the missus went down to london for a anniversary; trips round oxford st and walked round rather than getting the underground we walked to the london eye and had a ice cream whilst sat on a bench looking out over the thames, walking back to china town and then headed towards TGI Fridays, after we met up with her dad who was at a lodge meeting with the masons, went to a few pubs and drank all night till the early morning.

The songs are basically saying to me, Tach.... move to london.

I'll be down there the weekend closest to the 12th of april and again whenever Ayase is doing his meet up, may pop down for a few days to kick it with Spyro and again with the lads for a few all nighters in the bars and clubs.

Man, i love that city - you can spend all day wandering round, it never gets old.
 
vashdaman said:
But what makes you think that I needed reminding of my good fortune? I've always been grateful for my blessings, and I've always recognised my privileges, it doesn't mean I've always been happy with everything in my life, but I try my best not take anything for granted. I don't need a forceful reminding. And anyway, the kind of language that people like the cousin I gave in my example (and to a certain extent you) use is certainly not going to make me feel any better or more grateful, your not saying "Things could be a lot worse, so don't feel down, you still have warm house and hot food, things'll work out if you keep trying", instead your saying "Don't tell me how hard it is, you have all these luxuries yet you still don't have a job! How have you not got one yet? mamas boy". Maybe the latter line works for some people, and genuinely gets them motivated, but I suspect it would just make the vast majority of people feel even more useless than they already do (unemployed people do tend to feel useless already). I'd suspect that your quite similar to my cousin, in that you think saying that sort of thing is being cruel to be kind , cutting through the ******** and giving people the blunt and hard "truth" they need. But from my experience, I can tell you that's the opposite of what some people need.

Vash, I understood you prefer ("need") the politically correct way, as I understood the point you were making talking about your cousin.
The point I was trying to make (and I did not succeed) is to watch how things are in a general perspective. I suppose we agree if I say that your actual situation can't be put in the "worst situations" category (always in a general perspective). I suppose you agree with me if I say that in the future it's much probable you will have to face worse troubles (I hope I'm wrong and you'll have a fine life, here I'm just talking in a cold and harsh probabilistic way).
The problem with life troubles is facing and solving them (pretty obvious). If you tend to feel sh***y for a normal trouble (in a generic scale) as your actual unemployement, then how will you feel in the eventual case (I repeat, I hope it won't be your case, but probabilities says the opposite) you will have to face a much worse trouble? Am I wrong saying you will feel 100 times more sh***y?
I suppose we agree if I say that the less sh***y you feel then the easier it is to face and solve a trouble. This is the point you are making with the quoting above.
What I'm trying to say is this: are we sure that with your actual attitude you will be able to face the worse trouble that most probably you will unfortunately occur to you in the future? Nowadays you are facing a trouble that is on average on the generic scale of troubles, it's not simple neither hard, it's on the middle of the scale. You say you prefer people saying "don't worry, it will get better" than people saying "move you a**". This means you need outside support to help you face troubles, am I wrong? This is understandable, as is clear that outside support will help you face and solve this unemployment trouble.
The point I'm trying to make is not the short term trouble, is the long term trouble. If your attitude towards life is the current one (aka "harsh comments make me feel sh***y"), then have you ever wondered how you will react if and when you will have to face some serious trouble (which means on the hard side of the generic scale)? With this current attitude then most probably you will end in a bottomless pit of self depression, this will make it almost impossible to face and solve a hard trouble.
I have understood that you prefer kind words, you wrote it pretty clearly various times. And it's clear that kind words can help you to not feel sh***y now. What I'm saying is that what you need now to face this average trouble will not be enough for you if and when you'll have to face a hard trouble. So those kind words are a good solution for the short term trouble, but most probably won't be enough in the future. I suppose it's better to realize this and try to build your own way to be able to face future hard troubles. Because if you feel sh***y when some people say you some harsh comments then you will end up psychologically totally destroyed when some bad trouble (100 times worse than the actual one, 1000 times worse than people making harsh comments) will occur.
My point is this one: if some harsh comments make you feel sh***y and you try to avoid them, then with this attitude you will end in much sh***ier waters (not only on a material level, but on your emotional level) when some bad troubles will unfortunately occur to you. Is it better to focus only on your short term troubles, or is it better to focus on long term troubles that can be potentially much much much worse?


tl;dr TOTALLY HARSH: it's better to start growing your spine and find your inner strengths (aka "take the sh** road and not the red roses one") while you are facing some average troubles than waiting for the huge ones to come.



Teo
 
Hmm. I can see both Vash and Teo's points of view more clearly now I think. I'll make this my final post on this subject because it's dragging on now, but here's my last tuppence into the machine...

Personally, I believe that although our circumstances may not be of our own making the choices we make are still our own. I always think "need" is just a weaker, less assertive way of saying "want" and that besides food and shelter, nobody really "needs" anything at all. Taking a stand and refusing to put up with certain circumstances is different to believing you can't cope with them (even if they both have the same result) and I think the former is a much more empowering way to look at things. Even if it does make you poorer or make you a target for abuse, so what? You made your decision, screw anyone who thinks you're wrong. But they still have a right to say what they want to you just as you have a right to do what you want, so there's no justification to get mad at those (like your cousin, Vash) who do so. Equally though, I don't think there's any real reason for those people to chastise others for doing what they want, even if it isn't the choice they personally would have made and they believe that if they found themselves in the same circumstances they would behave differently. After all, anyone could choose to give up their job, live off benefits and be a "mama's boy" if they wanted, but I'm guessing most people choose not to because they realise that's not what they want.

On the subject of benefit reform, somehow I think those who object to their tax money going to the unemployed would like it a lot less if the benefits were all stopped and a few weeks later a revolutionary committee led by George Galloway was installed in the Houses of Parliament, planning ways to strip them of most of their assets for the good of the people. Many seem to presume anyone whose income was reduced to zero could just start working in a load of non-existent jobs that pay a living wage (look at how many currently working people still need income support or housing benefit!) or would simply roll over and die. But I think the reason the government keeps people above the poverty line even if they're not "contributing to society" is because of the fear that failing to do so would cost them their power - It's still the old bread and circuses tactic to keep them fed and entertained so that they're satisfied with merely complaining about the unfairness of society and the thought of actually trying to change it never enters their heads.

So from where I'm standing, by all means, stop the benefits. I don't begrudge people receiving them but nothing would make me happier than for people to wake up to the injustices of society and become so angry with our leaders that they overthrow them and instigate a new order. What I imagine they'll actually do is test how far they can push people before they go over the edge, which seems to be the Quiet Man's current job: Discovering "Exactly how poor can we make the poorest people before they start to push back?"
 
Kite said:
I hit a pothole coming back from the gym tonight...

...will cost me at least £106 for a new tyre :(>;/quote]]/quote]
:eek: What kind of car do you drive!? Sometimes works out a lot cheaper to buy a second hand tyre, or even a wheel with a good tyre on it if you've knackered the rim... if they're available for your car of course.

I was quite surprised to learn you aren't legally obliged to carry a spare tyre. A lot of more modern cars have those crappy temporary wheels now, forcing you to buy a new tyre immediately - I can't help but feel it was better back in the days when a full size extra wheel and tyre were carried as a matter of course. At least it afforded you a period of grace before having to fork out for a new tyre...
 
Yeah I think I'll make this my last post on this subject too, as it's already sprawled quite a few pages.

@ Teo
I think it just largely comes down to the fact that I have a slightly different philosophy on the best way to support and encourage people (based on how I would like to be supported and encouraged) than you do, Teo. It's got nothing at all to do with being "politically" correct, its just got to do with what I think is simply correct. I tend to avoid going down the route of embracing the power negativity in order to try and make a point more effective, and mainly because, if you want to encourage someone who's already probably feeling negative about themselves (an maybe already beating themselves up) into action, I think making them feel more negative will largely just be counter productive. Don't get wrong, sometimes a kick up the arse and some tough love might be needed for some individuals in some situations, but those are usually more exceptional in my opinion. On the whole, I think framing advice from a slightly more positive angle yields better results.

As for myself when I was in that situation, I already knew everything you or someone like my cousin would say to me, I didn't need to have things put forcefully into perspective like that, so it would just add to making me feel ever more useless. With that said, I certainly didn't need "mental conditioning" either, I've been through my fair share of tribulations over the years (regardless of where you personally would place them on the scale) and I don't consider myself a mentally fragile person, not that that kind of "advice" we're talking about would necessarily help toughen up a mentally fragile person anyway (again, it might just have the adverse effect). Yes I can feel ****** sometimes when things aren't quite working out, as can everyone, but I rarely stay stuck in a rut for long, and so I just simply don't have the time of day for anyone trying to lecture me on the "harsh reality of the world", as it's just a waste of time.

But anyway yeah, this has kind of strayed away from the original topic of jobs, I just think we have differing perspectives on what some people need to hear, and how to frame certain things. I can understand where your coming from, and maybe your right about this, but I can only go on the experiences that I've had.

But they still have a right to say what they want to you just as you have a right to do what you want, so there's no justification to get mad at those (like your cousin, Vash) who do so

Yeah, I wasn't mad at him, as he is for the most part saying such things because he honestly believes it is helpful to the situation. But I however didn't, so I just don't really time for that stuff.
 
ayase said:
Kite said:
I hit a pothole coming back from the gym tonight...

...will cost me at least £106 for a new tyre :(>;/quote]]/quote]]/quote]
:eek: What kind of car do you drive!? Sometimes works out a lot cheaper to buy a second hand tyre, or even a wheel with a good tyre on it if you've knackered the rim... if they're available for your car of course.

I was quite surprised to learn you aren't legally obliged to carry a spare tyre. A lot of more modern cars have those crappy temporary wheels now, forcing you to buy a new tyre immediately - I can't help but feel it was better back in the days when a full size extra wheel and tyre were carried as a matter of course. At least it afforded you a period of grace before having to fork out for a new tyre..../quote]


It costs me £15 for a part worn tyre from my local garage! Also i'm glad you mentioned potholes as there are loads of them on the roads right now, its disastrous to drive even to my gf's house, the road next to hers which is a main road i might add was actually closed for 2 days because the potholes were so bad that peoples cars were being wrecked, i have my car tax to pay at the end of the month and i'm seriously thinking of contacting my local borough council to say "i pay my road tax for what? roads to be closed rather than fixing the potholes?"

Its bloody ridiculous that they can charge so much for petrol, charge road tax and fuel emission tax but when it comes to maintaining the roads with all that money; they brush the whole topic under the carpet and pretend its not there.

here's something i hope can atleast offset the costs you'll have to pay for a new tyre: http://potholes.co.uk/
And alittle more specifically to your problem; http://potholes.co.uk/claims/what_compensation
 
Not enough places do nice mocktails/virgin c*cktails :(
Sometimes I'm just not in the mood to drink but a coke or lemonade just doesn't cut it and the last mocktail I had was like drinking sherbert. Bleh.
 
ayase said:
Kite said:
I hit a pothole coming back from the gym tonight...

...will cost me at least £106 for a new tyre :(>;/quote]]/quote]]/quote]
:eek: What kind of car do you drive!? Sometimes works out a lot cheaper to buy a second hand tyre, or even a wheel with a good tyre on it if you've knackered the rim... if they're available for your car of course.

I was quite surprised to learn you aren't legally obliged to carry a spare tyre. A lot of more modern cars have those crappy temporary wheels now, forcing you to buy a new tyre immediately - I can't help but feel it was better back in the days when a full size extra wheel and tyre were carried as a matter of course. At least it afforded you a period of grace before having to fork out for a new tyre..../quote]

Little 1.6 fabia I've got. Has low profile 16 inch wheels (which I didn't pick, they came with the car), even a space-saver would probably be not much use as the space in the boot where it would go is too small for one, and I could probably just get away with 15inch rims, but nothing smaller as the front discs are larger than the entry level models.

Most modern cars don't even have a space saver, they get given a compressor and a tin of gunk, the idea is to pour the gunk into the tyre which 'seals' it up (although probably not much used to me as the cut was a good inch long) and get you to a garage where you will have to get a new tyre (as some point blank refuse to try and repair a tyre which has had gunk inside it).
 
Tachi said:
ayase said:
Kite said:
I hit a pothole coming back from the gym tonight...

...will cost me at least £106 for a new tyre :(>;/quote]]/quote]]/quote]
:eek: What kind of car do you drive!? Sometimes works out a lot cheaper to buy a second hand tyre, or even a wheel with a good tyre on it if you've knackered the rim... if they're available for your car of course.

I was quite surprised to learn you aren't legally obliged to carry a spare tyre. A lot of more modern cars have those crappy temporary wheels now, forcing you to buy a new tyre immediately - I can't help but feel it was better back in the days when a full size extra wheel and tyre were carried as a matter of course. At least it afforded you a period of grace before having to fork out for a new tyre..../quote]]/quote]]/quote]


It costs me £15 for a part worn tyre from my local garage! Also i'm glad you mentioned potholes as there are loads of them on the roads right now, its disastrous to drive even to my gf's house, the road next to hers which is a main road i might add was actually closed for 2 days because the potholes were so bad that peoples cars were being wrecked, i have my car tax to pay at the end of the month and i'm seriously thinking of contacting my local borough council to say "i pay my road tax for what? roads to be closed rather than fixing the potholes?"

Its bloody ridiculous that they can charge so much for petrol, charge road tax and fuel emission tax but when it comes to maintaining the roads with all that money; they brush the whole topic under the carpet and pretend its not there.

here's something i hope can atleast offset the costs you'll have to pay for a new tyre: http://potholes.co.uk/
And alittle more specifically to your problem; http://potholes.co.uk/claims/what_compe ... teee/quote]e/quote]

The problem is that the pothole only formed on Sunday (I came back along the same road on Saturday and it wasn't there), got reported on Sunday and has now been temporary repaired. I believe you can only claim for compensation if the council is aware of the pothole and choose not to do anything about it for weeks.

As for part-worn tyres, maybe for the rear end as all they do is operate the handbrake and carry the weight of the rear end.

Tyres and Brakes is one thing I won't try and cut costs and get budget brands, just a matter of personal choice

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Yay, the cashback from Play.com has been confirmed into Quidco, at least that's a £10 towards the cost of tyres, plus I sent off my remaining dollars to one of those london based exchange companies listed on moneysavingexpert so hopefully will get more than I would have done by taking to the post office and exchange in there.
 
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