Relationships and Romance

I think the answer to all of the things you said there is that its different for different people. Just figure out what works for you and enjoy it :confused:
Of course, which is why I'm genuinely curious. I know there's no real "right/wong" way to do it: different strokes for different folks and all ;)
 
Ok I have another question. Remember to play nice folks. Does anyone find their tolerance to displays of affection of other people vary depending on the sexual orientation of the people involved and if so why?

Personally I can’t say any couple bothers me any more or less than any other couple however (just my experience here talking) it seems more accepted for a heterosexual couple to display affection than a homosexual couple. I don’t actually understand why so was hoping someone could shed some light here for me. Is it as simple as some are prejudiced?
 
Ok I have another question. Remember to play nice folks. Does anyone find their tolerance to displays of affection of other people vary depending on the sexual orientation of the people involved and if so why?

Personally I can’t say any couple bothers me any more or less than any other couple however (just my experience here talking) it seems more accepted for a heterosexual couple to display affection than a homosexual couple. I don’t actually understand why so was hoping someone could shed some light here for me. Is it as simple as some are prejudiced?
Personally, no. Orientation plays no part. I've seen gay men before holding hands and I think it's really sweet and awesome that they can show their affection in that way in public, I mean, why shouldn't they? Literally the issue for me is with the level of affection, not the orientation of the people invovled. It's just as you said - I really don't need to see people snogging whilst I'm trying to eat or something. It's just regarding your surroundings and being respectful.
 
Yeah I agree with @~AyaMachi~ I don't need to see people devouring each other's faces whilst I'm out and about or in the specific case mentioned eating a meal. Some degrees of affection should remain private. Nothing wrong with hand holding or getting close, and I don't give a shiny shite what the genders of said embracers are-just don't swallow tongues...
 
We did the whole love confession thing over email, in the middle of mundane discussions of other topics - and despite it not being an especially long distance relationship. It felt like the right time and waiting until our next opportunity to hang out seemed like forever. I have that date engraved on my wedding ring, actually, rather than the date of our engagement (an impulsive decision on some long-forgotten day when we were playing terrible anime-based fighting games).

While I definitely like being around my partner, I've never felt that face to face is required for anything much. We never even phoned one another back then either, it was just email or online chat. Though there are advantages too, like still having the chat logs from when we were friends and the emails where we became something more. If I ever want to vividly remind myself how dorky we were, the proof is right there.

(Come to think of it, I'm very unromantic for someone posting in the romance thread!)

On PDAs, I don't generally mind what anyone else gets up to but full-on slurpy make-out fests with blatant groping are cringey.

However, I think it's important to see ordinary, happy couples of all flavours in this miserable world and homosexual partners kissing or holding one another in public get a little extra respect from me. They are opening themselves up to much nastier abuse by taking the risk of displaying their status and yet by doing so, they're unobtrusively showing people that there's more to LGBT+ relationships than the drama, misery and exploitation that seems to haunt them in fiction. Seeing other people being happy feels nice.

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Okay, here's one: expressing "I love you" for the first time. Is there a right/wrong time to express it? Should you make a big deal out of it or should it just be something you can express as easily as breathing? How did you know that love is what you felt for your partner? Can you express it without actually saying the words? - they say actions speak louder than words after all! Any embarrasing situations to speak of that you'd rather forget? 😄 😅
just wanted to answer some of this from earlier (another cover shift) some of it may be a downer (yes im a downer with relationships...)
the thing about expressing it first time, I would say, a couple of weeks to a couple of months? depends on how "passionate" you and a partner feel, I assume some passionate people say it as soon as they can, but say it too soon you'd be anna from shimoneta you'll probably be chasing them everywhere for them to love you, wait too long to say it and your partner might think you're gutts, with your heart an engine driven by your own hate. I'd hate to make a big deal of it, just say it. make too big a deal and it just turns awkward, if you're the one making the big deal don't expect to hear it back right away. I can't answer how I knew that's how I felt, I look back and all I see is me being young and naive, I don't remember ever feeling that for someone, but the second part about expression I guess I am sentimental like a few other people, you can absolutely express your feelings without words, whether it's something you give your partner or something you do for them. embarrassing situations I'd want to forget? all of it. the whole thing is embarrassing, I've never really felt happy with anyone.
with looking to the future though I'd rather be perused, I'd go off on a tangent about changing standards but the bottom line is perusing didn't work for me, they'd have to tell me they want something like a relationship, and they'd have to tell me how they felt as they probably won't hear how I feel otherwise, there doesn't look to be any romantic interest around me though, the more I think about it the more I'd rather make myself unavailable and think about something I'd rather do for a job or something
I'll just ask, what are people's preference here? you as the pursuer of the relationship or as the pursued? you can jot down experience if that's better
 
Seeing other people being happy feels nice.
This hits the nail for me - it's exactly how I feel. Personally, I just like seeing other people happy, and it gives you a really nice feeling when you witness that, especially in a world where there's so much hardship!

Well it's good to know that others out there have confessed/expressed their feelings via words on a screen rather than face to face (at least initially). I mean, it's as you said - if the next time you meet up seems like forever away, but you need to get it off your chest, why wait? I just...couldn't be more certain, and I wanted to express it. I guess, for me as well, it helps having complete confidence and trust in our relationship. No disrespect, but Neil and I aren't young 16/17 year olds who perhaps have a somewhat naive grasp of what love/romance is. We're both mature (debateable at times) adults, and we both have the emotional dexterity to understand and make sense of what we're both feeling. Added to the fact that we're both genuine and sincere in how we communicate to each other, and it leaves little room for doubt or question. I mean, this is Neil's first time in all of this, but the level of maturity and common sense, as well as understanding that he displays would betray that - I think that's just testament to him as an honest and well-rounded gentleman. I don't feel like I've had to...guide him in any way (apologies as I am digressing here). The last guy I was with was so...frustrating. He needed my approval for any little thing he did ("do you think I should do this? Do you think I should do that?"). I get that there are times when your partner's opinion matters in making certain decisions, but if you're seriously asking me to give you permission to do something trivial, then you have way too many insecurities to sort out.

Thanks @Rui - always interesting to hear the input of others :)
 
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For me I’ve only had one “relationship” happen via the way mentioned above. That was the one from my primary school, we were best friends anyway and it had happened in all but words. That one I was asked, that’s the only experience of that kind of thing. Everything else has just worked out as being a relationship. Overall I can’t say it bothers me which way around it’d be, me doing the chasing or the other chasing me. My opinion might change if I actually had any real experience with either.
 
For me I’ve only had one “relationship” happen via the way mentioned above. That was the one from my primary school, we were best friends anyway and it had happened in all but words. That one I was asked, that’s the only experience of that kind of thing. Everything else has just worked out as being a relationship. Overall I can’t say it bothers me which way around it’d be, me doing the chasing or the other chasing me. My opinion might change if I actually had any real experience with either.
I guess two people just happening on each other is a good way to go, happens mostly with friends I believe? or do friends pursue? again I've not had a lot of friends or anything I've been truly happy with, I'm open to being enlightened
 
I guess two people just happening on each other is a good way to go, happens mostly with friends I believe? or do friends pursue? again I've not had a lot of friends or anything I've been truly happy with, I'm open to being enlightened
No idea, have never had many friends. Primary school one I was pursued, long distance phone one we were friends for a short time and it just happened. With the fiancèe we were strangers and it happened.
 
Though there are advantages too, like still having the chat logs from when we were friends and the emails where we became something more. If I ever want to vividly remind myself how dorky we were, the proof is right there.
Absolutely, I still remember the transition of the friends to more-than-friends, and how natural it felt :)
 
Interesting to see as well how some people regard themselves as sappy romantics whilst others not so much. Personally, I don't regard myself as being overly romantic. I'm definitely not a fan of "old fashioned" romance for sure. I think again, it's just what ties in with my modern attitudes. For me, I'd like for people outside looking in to look at Neil and I and go, "Oh wow, you can tell they're really good friends but also something more too" - I like the best friend dynamic to show through, but without there being too much sappy romance if that makes sense. As I mentioned before, the 3rd relationship was doomed simply because there was no friendship; it was just overly-sentimental romantic gestures and lovey-dovey overtures, which just doesn't suit me. I personally love the fact that Neil and I know we can take the p**s out of each other, and tease each other, as you would in any trusted friendship, but we know how to express our love and care for one another in our way, and it's a way that I feel totally at ease with. There's a balance that I feel is just right. It doesn't feel forced at all, and that's refreshing!

I mean, let me get one thing straight - I like love my cuddles and stuff, and I may do melt and go weak at the knees with some lots of stuff Neil comes out with (I'm not above admitting this) but one must keep up one's tsundere persona 😤

It...it's not as though I like you or anything @Neil.T! 😤 😤 😤 😤
 
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I agree there, I’m not one for the typical romantic stuff, especially on things like Valentine’s Day, why should I show my feelings with gestures just because people who are trying to sell things tell me to? If I do show such things with romantic gestures like struggling to get in the house because I’m carrying too many flowers (yes, I’ve done that) it will be because I wanted to at that time. Now despite me admitting to what I’ve done there, I’m not one for doing things like that frequently, they’re very much the exception not the rule. Only typical romantic thing I’ll do is buy my partner chocolate but that’s because we both like chocolate, it’s not done with the whole “hey look at this heart shaped box with a big bow on it” scenario. It’s just done because we both like chocolate.
 
But are small gifts given with the intent of making someone happy romantic or is it simply done to make said person happy?
I would imagine the latter, as there be barely a traditional romantic among us apparently. me buy stuff for a partner? not on this wage, maybe if I had better pay. and not often either, it's not special if you buy stuff all the time
 
I would imagine the latter, as there be barely a traditional romantic among us apparently. me buy stuff for a partner? not on this wage, maybe if I had better pay. and not often either, it's not special if you buy stuff all the time
No one ever said what you buy has to be expensive. As long as who you’re buying for enjoys what you’ve bought them who cares about price? Hell if they like sweets just buy them a mixup. I agree about all the time making it not special though.
 
No one ever said what you buy has to be expensive. As long as who you’re buying for enjoys what you’ve bought them who cares about price? Hell if they like sweets just buy them a mixup. I agree about all the time making it not special though.
I do think the same about birthdays for anyone though, but me and my brothers rarely do that for each other anymore, I'm the youngest and we aren't bothered about it. I am thinking of something that might be special but I do remember my brother did buy a platinum rose for a girl he liked before. some other guy gave her his sweaty bandanna, apparently. I mean this is the brother that was always the catch and he was competing with someone who busks on the street, what messed up competition is that? it would be me competing for a girls attention over like... a turtle? I'm sorry human competition has never been my forte
 
I agree there, I’m not one for the typical romantic stuff, especially on things like Valentine’s Day, why should I show my feelings with gestures just because people who are trying to sell things tell me to? If I do show such things with romantic gestures like struggling to get in the house because I’m carrying too many flowers (yes, I’ve done that) it will be because I wanted to at that time. Now despite me admitting to what I’ve done there, I’m not one for doing things like that frequently, they’re very much the exception not the rule. Only typical romantic thing I’ll do is buy my partner chocolate but that’s because we both like chocolate, it’s not done with the whole “hey look at this heart shaped box with a big bow on it” scenario. It’s just done because we both like chocolate.
Yeah, I just don't feel a need to express my love for my partner on a specific day, especially one that's so commercially driven. For me, it's just...things like showing that you've listened to something, or remembered something they've said, being attentive - those things to me show you care without being romantic in nature.

@Teapot's post has reminded me of this kind of thing actually, with regards to "it makes her happy - which in turn makes me happy".
One of the things I really hope I can do is get on board with Neil's love for anime. Whilst I do like some stuff, I certainly don't share his level of enthusiasm for it, but, when we're on the phone and he's talking about a show he's really into at the moment, and I can hear the enthusiasm in his voice, that for me is the best thing. Admitedly I initially did find it hard, because it was very often a one-way conversation in that regard - he would talk about stuff and I would basically listen as enthusiastically as I could, and since I felt like I'd have nothing to really "add" to the conversation, I'd find myself kind of...desperately not trying to let on that I was perhaps finding it a bit difficult to focus sometimes. I brought it up at one point, and whilst he admitted that it was down to just having finally found someone who would listen to him talk about his passion, he also ackowledged that it's about striking a balance, and applying the "everything in moderation" mantra into this situation too.

That said though (digressing a bit here), in the early days of our phone conversations, I do remember him saying that he wanted our calls to be a "safe haven" for both of us, and as such those conversations were a bit more limited in subject matter. Don't get me wrong we expect most of our conversations to be general and light-hearted in content, but I recently expressed a desire to just be more "open" about any subject in phone calls, rather than just limiting certain "heavier subjects" for messaging - being able to broach anything in conversation builds trust, and at the end of the day, whilst there's distance between us, I do want it to be as near as damn it to being together in person. Because of this I find it much easier now in lending my ear when he wants to have a good old chat about a show he's been watching, and I find I'm much more receptive and willing to engage and chip in with things, even if it's not stuff I'm really aware of or knowledgable about. The way his voice lights up is really special to me, and since he's really enjoying this part of his life again, that's a major plus!
 
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