K-On Boxset & Haruhi movie Blu-rays Cancelled!

Shiroi Hane said:
Black Lagoon is a Kaze release that we are distributing for them, so yes, it will happen.
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"..and if anything does go wrong, it's not our fault."
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I wouldn't be too surprised at that. The pricing for Samurai Girls is ridiculous.

The R.R.P. of the DVD release is apparently £15.99, a bargain which only Play.com of all the retailers appears to be honouring. Everyone else is pricing it as if it's a £24.99 release.

The R.R.P. of the Blu-ray is apparently £44.99. The cheapest you'll find it is £32. Kaze have a learning curve of their own that they'll have to climb. On the bright side for them, they have the European release to help them with sales.

£30 between DVD and Blu-ray. Words fail me. :?
 
MangaUK have lost my custom. My K-ON! volume 4 is in the mail and unless I can't avoid it, I won't be getting any of their titles. I may consider KAZE titles released through them, but dunno...

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Just Passing Through said:
Shiroi Hane said:
Black Lagoon is a Kaze release that we are distributing for them, so yes, it will happen.
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"..and if anything does go wrong, it's not our fault."
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I wouldn't be too surprised at that. The pricing for Samurai Girls is ridiculous.

The R.R.P. of the DVD release is apparently £15.99, a bargain which only Play.com of all the retailers appears to be honouring. Everyone else is pricing it as if it's a £24.99 release.

The R.R.P. of the Blu-ray is apparently £44.99. The cheapest you'll find it is £32. Kaze have a learning curve of their own that they'll have to climb. On the bright side for them, they have the European release to help them with sales.

£30 between DVD and Blu-ray. Words fail me. :?
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Maybe not then...9.9
 
mangaman74 said:
Dannielle said:
From now on, they should only announce blu-rays if they're definite..I've always given Manga the benefit of the doubt but I'm getting a tad annoyed now.
I'm expecting the Black Lagoon Blu-ray to be cancelled now too.

I'm pretty annoyed, been waiting for the blu-ray release of Haruhi since it was announced, even put off watching it so i could bask in blu-ray goodness ..urgh ..anyone know anywhere i can import it from? at a good price?
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Looks like the Black Lagoon bd is safe (as well as other Kaze/Manga releases such as Roujin Z & Mardock Scramble),

DanniHanwell Danni Hanwell
@MangaUK Considering Haruhi & K-ON! blu-rays have been cancelled, are you still selling Black Lagoon on Blu-Ray as Neo mag said?
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MangaUK Manga Entertainment
@DanniHanwell Hi Danni. Black Lagoon is a Kaze release that we are distributing for them, so yes, it will happen.
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MangaUK Manga Entertainment
@DanniHanwell 2012 BD release from @KazeUK incl. #MardockScramble #SamuraiGirls #Bleach Movies 1,2 and 3. That's #FadeToBlack and #RoujinZ
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Hehehe, that's meeee :)

I'm so glad i got the reply i did, i was pretty worried about it. I'm still irritated by the cancellations but i can understand the issues at hand & at least we're still getting these BD's .... *fingers crossed*
 
Paradox295 said:
Dannielle said:
Paradox295 said:
Wait...


...Manga/Kaze are releasing Black Lagoon on BD?!

First I'm hearing of this!
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Yeah, its in Neo Mag ..if i read correctly its not just the OVA, its Seasons 1 & 2 too. :)
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Oh, I assumed it was just S1 and S2. Double awesome, then :D
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Seriously, after today's news and the news the past week, you're still going to get excited?!

Manga Entertainment love you! You're the puppy that keeps coming back, doe-eyed, wagging its tail, showering its owner with love, even after the owner has repeatedly beaten it and mistreated it.
 
maybe now you'll all understand my anti-mangauk stance ;)

also gives me another reason to repost this

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I finally decided to grab it for Xmas as I was bored of waiting (I'd have imported it 6 months ago or so elsewise).

What a mess up; cancelling Haruhi too, given it's mascot status seems almost suicidal. If they keep messing up like this they might as well just roll over and die, because sure as hell, they're dropping further and further down my list of even bothering to check thier releases before importing/buying elsewhere.

And they wondered why I imported Spice and Wolf...let alone something they actually announced :eek: :x
 
I was going through some of their Tweets earlier. Apparently Highschool of the Dead has been a successful BD release, having sold all of 1000 copies. Given that HotD was their 5th or 6th best-selling title last year, it seems likely that the BD was outsold by the DVD.

Manga have been playing a lose/lose game with anime on BD. They could've released nothing but high profile movies and fans would have complained about the lack of series. After FMA and the first sets of Casshern and Xam'd they were faced with the prospect of either cancelling them and pissing off a few hundred fans, or continuing to print thousands of units only to sell hundreds.

Manga could have gone about things a bit better, and there are plenty of other things to be annoyed with them about, but I think the Blu-ray situation is just unfortunate.
 
Get rights to both DVD and Blu Ray versions of things, make an arse out of yourselves then cock-block anything to do with Blu Ray that literately isn't Viz UK using you as a printing mule.

Marketing F**king GENIUS
 
I think what they really need to do (and should have done sooner) is to come up with a more realistic blu-ray plan. If they're only selling a few thousand copies of things even on DVD, splitting that for more than double the setup costs by releasing a BD is madness. Sharing resources with Australia and the US is nice but ultimately having to do their own huge runs of minor titles is a model that was never going to work unless they could somehow produce another several thousand paying fanatics in the UK from nowhere.

I guess if they completely sit things out until BD has either taken hold here or failed (or ideally, until the BBFC ridiculousness is taken away and they can come up with some more logical production plan) they might have a chance. Until then, strangely Kaze has a monopoly on non-Ghibli-style anime in HD in this country and the only solid production plan.

R
 
Really, at this point, what Kazé should do is pay Manga some money on the side to quietly NOT put their logos on the Kazé stuff such that they can remove themselves from having anything to do with Manga outside of their distro muleing.

Seriously, I'm kinda pissed that my eventual copies of Tiger and Bunny and Persona 4 are going to have that awful logo on it. They honestly don't deserve it.

Just Passing Through said:
I wouldn't be too surprised at that. The pricing for Samurai Girls is ridiculous.
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£30 between DVD and Blu-ray. Words fail me. :?
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Being fair, that's Samurai Girls; A nothing of a show that barely is a blip, you'd need to ask for silly money for that to make a profit. Also, that's only one volume you need to buy so I'm not so willing to be hard on Kazé for it.

Also, I'd pay £50 a go for Black Lagoon, Tiger and Bunny and Persona 4.
 
Dannielle said:
Paradox295 said:
Wait...


...Manga/Kaze are releasing Black Lagoon on BD?!

First I'm hearing of this!
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Yeah, its in Neo Mag ..if i read correctly its not just the OVA, its Seasons 1 & 2 too. :)
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Will they be (re)releasing it on DVD too? *preps flame shield* I don't buy anime on blu ray usually.
 
Sparrowsabre7 said:
Will they be (re)releasing it on DVD too? *preps flame shield* I don't buy anime on blu ray usually.
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They will release a BD version and a DVD version in Italy, so I assume they will do the same in the UK.



Teo
 
ConanThe3rd said:
Really, at this point, what Kazé should do is pay Manga some money on the side to quietly NOT put their logos on the Kazé stuff such that they can remove themselves from having anything to do with Manga outside of their distro muleing.

Seriously, I'm kinda pissed that my eventual copies of Tiger and Bunny and Persona 4 are going to have that awful logo on it. They honestly don't deserve it.

Just Passing Through said:
I wouldn't be too surprised at that. The pricing for Samurai Girls is ridiculous.
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£30 between DVD and Blu-ray. Words fail me. :?
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Being fair, that's Samurai Girls; A nothing of a show that barely is a blip, you'd need to ask for silly money for that to make a profit. Also, that's only one volume you need to buy so I'm not so willing to be hard on Kazé for it.

Also, I'd pay £50 a go for Black Lagoon, Tiger and Bunny and Persona 4.
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Looks like they are *fixing* the pricing on the Samurai Girls DVD collection. Anime on Line has upped the RRP to £34.99, and most of the other e-tailers are showing the same. If you really want this series, get it from Play.com, who still are going by the original RRP (quoted by the PR company) of £15.99. I expect that to shoot up too before long. And £34.99 for a DVD does *make sense* when compared to BD RRP of £44.99.
 
Manga earlier brought up it's survey on Twitter with regards to prices.

From the feedback, many people would pay no more than £24.99 for a 2 disc Blu-ray set such as Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood.

https://twitter.com/#!/MangaUK/status/1 ... 0342691840

I get that costs for Blu-ray are high, but considering that it's likely would be £14.99 for the dvd alternative - and that Manga later twittered that them being priced at £39.99 would be able to jusitfy Blu-rays - are we either expecting to be spoilt as sorts or are Manga expecting too much?

I myself struggle with the idea of supporting a format for a £25 difference.
 
It makes sense what Jerome is saying (never thought I'd be typing that!) about Kaze having to keep their UK pricing in line with the rest of Europe, if they're pressing the same set of discs for each country to keep production budgets realistic. Given how successful anime is in most of Europe, they don't want to sabotage that to appease the tiny set of UK buyers. This is where the blu-ray devotees need to decide whether they want to take the compromise of DVD, or just pay a niche price for what is a niche product (anime on blu-ray over here). Kaze is the only one left making any now, other than Studio Canal and their limited catalogue.

Personally I think that if most respondents really said they wouldn't pay more than £24.99 for a full cour on blu-ray, they are most definitely being spoilt. Why would anime on blu-ray be priced lower here than the US/Australia/France when our market is significantly smaller and we have additional costs with the BBFC etc? Crazy.

R
 
There is that Rui, but there's also pricing yourself out of the market.

Honestly, £35-£40 for a Cour on BD and ten off that for the DVD and an extra fiver if it's double-play sounds about where I'd play it.

Then again, I'm a dirty philistine who has bizarre ideas about like "make streaming simple, stupid" and "Region Locking does nothing but destroy business for a momentary gain".
 
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