I still don’t get the outrage as yeah the scenes speak for them. And even “love” is ambiguous Evangelion does that even with Misato.
I'm not sure it does imply it on Kaworu's part, though we can certainly see that Shinji's interpretation of Kaworu's words and actions may have been that they were expressed romantically. But, like I said in a previous post, Kaworu is not human and I don't think we should interpret his words and actions in the same way that we would an ordinary human character. Even if Kaworu intends a romantic interpretation, can we be sure that he's not just being mischievous? He undoubtedly has insights into Shinji's character that would enable him to manipulate him with his words and actions.My reading of the Shinji/Kaworu scene with the original dialogue would have been just that the lines were intended to be ambiguous, even if context implies that Kaworu does have a romantic interest in Shinji.
In my (relative) innocence when I first saw the film, I actually didn't realise that Shinji was engaging in some 'capricious onanism', as I think Zinki once put it, but I don't know. It doesn't seem beyond the pail to me that his mental state has deteriorated to such a desperate level by this point. It didn't occur to me while watching the film, but I do kind of agree that his inability to come to Asuka's aid until its too late feels like a bit of a contrivance.The jacking it over Asuka is so stupid and feels like it's there just to shock you. Shinji wouldn't even kiss a sleeping Asuka, I dont buy he'd react like that.
Also agreed. It's like she's finally asserted that she is a person in her own right, rather than a stand-in for Yui. I think there's a nice bit of foreshadowing for this near the start in the shot of her having finally smashed Gendo's glasses too.Rei making a choice on her own to go to Shinji rather than always do what Gendo wants was great to see. In that moment she goes from only validating herself through Gendos eyes to actually having her own point of view. It's a good end to her character arc that's been building all series.
I think a big part of what annoys me about Shinji is that, to me anyway, I feel like he becomes plot driven. For a large part of the series we have gradual character growth occurring then in ep23 (I think it was) everyone is scared to tell him Toji is the new Eva pilot and I dont buy that that information would bother him and I dont buy that characters would be scared to tell him. Weve seen nothing to suggest it would and all the real damage is done because Shinji knows they are keeping a secret from him. It why that episode has to keep coming up with ways for Asuka to not tell him as even they knew she would just tell him straight away.In my (relative) innocence when I first saw the film, I actually didn't realise that Shinji was engaging in some 'capricious onanism', as I think Zinki once put it, but I don't know. It doesn't seem beyond the pail to me that his mental state has deteriorated to such a desperate level by this point. It didn't occur to me while watching the film, but I do kind of agree that his inability to come to Asuka's aid until its too late feels like a bit of a contrivance.
Cue the 'Netflix paid him to write this' conspiracy theories.This is nice thread about the use of the word Children instead of Child in the new dub. It's a good take in the word usage.
Yes, I did! And that was the first time I had!Oh, and I rather suspect this is a known Easter egg, but did anyone look closely at what Misato was reading on her computer screen when she had hacked into the system?
I guess it perhaps partly comes down to what you see first. The weird order I saw stuff in (Rebuild 2.0–1.0–3.0–D&R–EoE–NGE) means that that bleakness feels more in-keeping with the gradual downward spiral presented in the series to me. (I can't help but think that Rebuild is going to have a quite different tone to its conclusion, though...)Also the ending is so bleak.
I've never put those two events side by side in my thoughts before, but now that I have... I'd say that, perhaps (trying to tap into Shinji's mindset here), standing looking at Asuka while doing that doesn't require any actual interaction with her, whereas kissing her in her sleep would have. Also, Shinji's mental state wasn't nearly as damaged way back in episode 9 as it is by the time of EoE either.The jacking it over Asuka is so stupid and feels like it's there just to shock you. Shinji wouldn't even kiss a sleeping Asuka, I dont buy he'd react like that.
I'd have found that more in keeping with Shinjis innate nature to be honest. I also kind of feel like the deterioration of his mental state would make him less likely to do that. A big part of the story is that hes becoming withdrawn from everyone. He wouldn't stand there touching himself over Asuka when she could wake up or someone else could catch him. Having him scurry off to hide and do it would have been more believable and more in keeping with the theme of the film.It turns out that, at the screenplay stage of EoE's production, there was an idea for Shinji to do what he does back in his room while thinking about Asuka