General TV Discussion

Just finished watching Series 6, 7 & 8 of Red Dwarf with the cast commentaries. Highly entertaining stuff!
 
Just seen episode 1 of the old 90's series Bugs on youtube. I loved it as a teenager when it first aired.

I just sent off for a used dvd for only £2.01 of series 1.

About to watch the pilot of Sliders, another series I loved as a teen.
 
The Walking Dead Season 5 trailer just got released.


Oh my there's quite a lot of interesting speculation going on with the next 8 episodes (each trailer pretty much covers 8 episodes i.e. Season 4 Trailer covered 1-8 while Mid-season trailer covered 9-16).

Few things to note (SPOILERS):
- Beth is alive somewhere and judging by people's speculation, they are the real Hunters and the folks at Terminus aren't
- Speaking of Terminus if they aren't the Hunters then maybe they kidnapped Rick's group thinking they are part of the cult.
- Rumours of Glenn getting KIA is false as he goes into the forest with Rick's group despite a scene that looks like he's going to die (it's possible)
- Terminus seems to join up with Rick's group to Washington and probably some rivalry fights
- Father Gabriel from the comics will be added into the storyline (part of the Hunters arc as well as the Alexandria Safe Zone arc)
- Photos of buildings which may look like Alexandria was leaked earlier in the month so maybe the season ends with the beginning of the Alexandria Safe Zone arc.
 
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I'm in two minds about the 5th season as I didn't make it to the end of the last one.

Anyway, I've been watching series 6 of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Loving it as ever.

I needed to do a bit of googling as it was driving me mad racking my brain who was voicing Chancellor Palpatine as the original guy died. I just could picture who it was, but recognised it. Turn out he is a pretty big name, hence why I recognised it. Its Tim Curry! 10/10 so far. He is doing a great job!
 
Amon81 said:
Anyway, I've been watching series 6 of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Loving it as ever.

I needed to do a bit of googling as it was driving me mad racking my brain who was voicing Chancellor Palpatine as the original guy died. I just could picture who it was, but recognised it. Turn out he is a pretty big name, hence why I recognised it. Its Tim Curry! 10/10 so far. He is doing a great job!
I didn't think Curry was as good a Palpatine as Ian Abercrombie was, but on those rare moments he flipped into Sidious mode he was great. If he comes back to do the Emperor in Rebels I'd be happy (if we even see the Emperor in Rebels). I really liked Palpatine in TCW. Hell, I liked most characters more - The show did everything right the prequels did wrong, namely making you actually care about the characters and understand their motivations. Especially Anakin. He went from being a whiny, obnoxious git with a anger management problem in the movies to someone who's problem really is attachment in TCW - He cares for people (not just Padme, but Obi-Wan, Ahsoka and Palpatine) to the point that he's willing to let the ends justify the means (something which was brilliantly illustrated in the Tarkin episodes, where you can see his attitude has shifted away from that of the Jedi and towards those of the soon-to-be Empire).

S6 was probably as good as it could have managed without any Ventress, Ahsoka or Maul. I'm still pissed off we'll never get to see the scripts that became the Son of Dathomir comic animated. It was worth it just for the Fives arc, the Clones really became the human centre of the show in some ways. Those Jar Jar eps though.
 
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just about to watch the last 2 episodes or S6

I also like how they made the Storm Troopers people too. The hole 5's episodes in S6 were good.

I've listened to 4 of The Clone Wars audiobooks at work and they feel more like the film versions.

One of the best extended universe books is called something like Becoming Vader that directly follows the 3rd film and its about him adapting to his new body and fully being on the dark side of the force. Bit different to the 3rd film where he pretty much just flipped a switch and swapped sides.

My first extended universe was Deathtroopers. A book I thoroughly enjoyed. It's a zombie novel in space. It definitely say it helped they got a horror author to write it (and Red Harvest, it's prequel).

I'm interested to see if Rebels well get as (surprisingly) mature story lines the was clone wars did.
 
Amon81 said:
One of the best extended universe books is called something like Becoming Vader that directly follows the 3rd film and its about him adapting to his new body and fully being on the dark side of the force. Bit different to the 3rd film where he pretty much just flipped a switch and swapped sides.
Is it "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader"? I have an omnibus with that in sat on my bookshelf as yet unread. It's by James Luceno, who tends to be pretty good. If you enjoy his writing and haven't already done so, check out Darth Plagueis. It's set before the prequel films and about Palpatine and his master.

Definitely agree with "flip the evil switch" Anakin in RotS too - There were so many better ways that could have been done.

I was talking about this only the other day and came up with an alternative scenario whereby Palpatine arranges for the Separatists to destroy a ship Anakin believes a pregnant Padme to be on board - This makes a distraught Anakin believe the war has to end now, no matter what it takes, someone has to restore order. Confiding in Palpatine, he then in a classic evil grin "I really didn't want it to have to come to this, but..." moment then introduces Anakin to a last resort plan to more or less carry out scorched earth and genocide of entire planets in order to end the war very finally. He decides to go along with it and agrees to lead the troops. The Jedi are obviously appalled to learn of this and decide to overthrow Palpatine and strip Anakin of his Jedi status for plotting to commit war crimes together, and THAT's when it all goes down with the Jedi mutiny and temple massacre.

Meanwhile Obi-Wan is sent to investigate and finds Padme (just barely) survived the ship crash on a sparsely inhabited planet and was being cared for by a remote rural family, but dies in childbirth leaving him to hide the children's survival from Anakin, who he now believes to be a monster. Then they have their big fight at the end. Yeah, fanfiction, I know, but I still think it would have worked better than "Okay, I'll be evil if you help me save my wife" which totally wasted the setup in Episode II of Anakin as an almost Caesar like figure (albeit one who has been played by Palpatine), a general who comes back from a war to institute a dictatorship because he thinks democracy is corrupt, broken and useless.

Amon81 said:
I'm interested to see if Rebels well get as (surprisingly) mature story lines the was clone wars did.
I'm hopeful. We've got the same TCW team plus Greg Weisman of Gargoyles fame on the staff. Animation budget has obviously gone down now Lucas isn't financing it out of his own pocket, which is a shame. TCW was one of the best looking CGI animations I think there has ever been, the unique puppet-like character design and painterly textures managing to avoid that boring too-smooth style where all the characters tend to look near identical *cough*Disney*cough*. There's no reason the writing shouldn't be up to the same standards though.
 
ilmaestro said:
OK, you guys have successfully tricked me. Is there anywhere streaming The Clone Wars or am I having to buy the BDs?
It's on Netflix, but apparently only US Netflix. I don't know whether that's available / a problem to you or not. The BDs are fairly inexpensive now, but S6 isn't on home media yet as it's currently a Netflix exclusive.

As a word of warning, the movie and early S1 aren't particularly good, seem quite "kiddie" and put me off the show for a long time (although it's worth watching just for continuity reasons and especially Ahsoka's introduction) but once I was persuaded to give it a try again I found it got better. A lot better. By the end of S3 I wanted the TCW staff to remake the prequels, that's how much better. And rather than thinking "This is for kids" I was thinking "This is for kids!?"
 
Yeah I have a couple of devices set up for US 'flix, sucks that it's not on the UK one just as a general point though. I will attempt to fit it in since I am currently watching no anime that airs on Tuesday or Wednesday and thus have gaps to fill!
 
I too would recommend it. Like ayase said the opening film and first season are a bit kiddy, but get surprisingly deep after that. The animation gets very good as well.

I'd also highly recommend any of the extended universe books too. I'm limited for time so I "found" about 24gb of the audiobooks and listen to them at work. Infact finding them has resulted in me buying the books and cd version of a couple.
 
Any thoughts on watching TCW in the "chronological order" that I've seen mentioned just while doing a little research? Or just watch it in the order it aired?
 
ilmaestro said:
Any thoughts on watching TCW in the "chronological order" that I've seen mentioned just while doing a little research? Or just watch it in the order it aired?
Personally I would say no, just watch it in airdate order. It's fun to look back and place things in the overall timeline afterwards, but there's really nothing to be gained from watching it that way. Given the improvements in both writing and animation as the series progressed I imagine it would also probably be quite jarring.
 
ayase said:
Given the improvements in both writing and animation as the series progressed I imagine it would also probably be quite jarring.
That actually sounds like a pretty strong argument, I'll just follow the original order.
 
I started watching a show called Revolution last night. My Mum recorded it on dvd off the tv for me. It's really good. At least what I've seen so far. It's currently a shame it got cancelled after Season 2, hopefully they'll bring it back like they did with Falling Skies.
 
Finally saw the first episode of GoT the other day. The line between big budget television and softcore pornography is more blurred than I remember...
 
So the build-up to SummerSlam got me back into wrestling for the umpteenth time. Not that the build-up was especially good (overall the card wasn't great, just watching the last few weeks of Raw at the moment and they didn't exactly carve worthwhile storylines for everything), but the Lesnar aspect lends an inevitable layer of intrigue to anything that's going on when he makes his fleeting appearances.

I'd forgotten how childishly entertaining the sheer pantomime of the WWE was. Some of the shilling aspects of the coverage team start to grate after mere minutes, but there's no-one else in the world quite like the E when it comes to putting on a show.
 
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