While I get that the system is crap for the average working person, I really don't get where this idea comes from (well actually I probably do know, the media) that it's actually great for the average unemployed person, which I guess is what
@Dave1988 seems to be saying. There are people in this thread on UC and other benefits, I don't know how you can read posts like the ones
@Anj wrote and come and say things like "people who dont work and have an "illness" mostly workshy lay abouts". No, people who don't work and have an illness are not mostly workshy lay abouts. I know you weren't talking about anyone in this thread or trying to offend anyone, but you come across as insensitive to other people's hardships to say the least. You've clearly got your own hardships too and I don't doubt that, but you're not the only one mate. And I promise you that most of the chronically unemployed people out there would wish to be in the sort of position you are with a stable job they can hold down and a wife they were able to bring over from another country. You're coming in to this thread basically saying "poor me poor me, I'm so hard done by" but showing zero awareness or empathy for what other people in this thread are going through.
Of course there are a minority of people gaming the benefits system, but funnily enough the only ones I've known who do that are definitely not what you could call workshy, but people moonlighting about two different cash in hand jobs and multiple side hustles while also getting benefits. And like ayase, I don't really begrudge them, and I don't think they're really worth getting angry about. And as for the genuinely "workshy", who don't want to work and would rather subsist and get by on the meagre basic UC. Well, first of all that's a frugal life, and the DWP don't really make it easy to do this, I know this very well. I've been on UC and been genuinely ill so couldn't attend a work search review, I went to the doctor and got a sick note, and I still got sanctioned by some anonymous decision maker despite this. They're constantly trying to force you into some job you'd likely be terrible at and wouldn't last very long in. But that's nothing compared to what other people go through, so many genuinely deserving people in need or with children or with disabilities get shafted by the DWP. So honestly, you might want to talk to more people who actually receive benefits before you come to the conclusion that they're all wiping their bums with £50 notes and laughing at the honest working man. You're directing your anger at the wrong people. You correctly have a dim view of the current government and the establishment, cool I'm with you on that, but you've fallen right into their trap of getting angry about people who are weaker and worse off than you, the unemployed, illegal migrants, teenagers with no prospects, young struggling families, the ill.
