I have enough Jade for about 1 multi on the special star passes, but I'll take advice and just collect them for now.

I should sync my account up to my PS5 because I guess I can also spend PSN credit, I have like £80 sat there on that doing nothing much so might be a good way to get the passes for a bit :)

I'd definitely like to get myself a good 5 * DPS for the longer haul, so it's certainly an option to pull for Feixiao, or I can wait for another great DPS to appear on a banner.

Do people replace themselves in the teams btw? my avatar is also in the party atm and it has me at 5 *, is there a time when I should consider swapping myself out?
 
Do people replace themselves in the teams btw? my avatar is also in the party atm and it has me at 5 *, is there a time when I should consider swapping myself out?
MC is somewhat unique in that they can fit different roles as you unlock the ability to change to different paths throughout the story (currently 3 different options):

Default Physical Destruction MC is a pretty weak DPS and basically doesn't see use outside of very new players with few other options.

Fire Preservation MC, unlocked near the end of the Belobog storyline is a taunter with some minor shielding. A fairly unique kit, and generally better than the default, but again doesn't see much use unless you have no other options.

Imaginary Harmony MC, unlocked near the end of the Penacony arc is the best by far. Their kit focuses on buffing the team to do large damage instances when you attack weakness broken enemies, and is the core for one of the strongest teams in the game currently.

Aside from the latter, most people aren't gonna be using Trailblazer once they acquire better options.
 
I disobeyed myself and wound up re-rolling a bit, I did 3 rolls in the end. Turned out I had enough email addresses to do like 10 or more rolls but I didn't really want to sit there forever doing them.

Roll 1
Gepard 5* ☠️
Dead to me as I wanted a 5 * waifu to begin with and not a husbando.
At this point I decided I would roll until I got Bronya or Himeko as I liked their models.

Roll 2
Bailu 5*
Tingyun 4*
Qingque 4* (I think this was the additional one I had, I'd have to check)

Roll 3
Bronya 5* ❤️
Hook 4*
Natasha 4*

I did waste a few jade crystals on Roll 3 as I wanted to dee who my 5* was and I need 4 more tickets to hit 40, so 640 I think was the cost to just get her done.

Roll 2 actually think could have been good as well, Bailu seems well regarded and Tingyun is one of the better 4* supports as well I think. I didn't necessarily want dragon girl though so I figured I'd go again and see.

Interestingly on all 3 rolls it took me the full 50 pity to get the SSR character. Didn't get a single one before I'd used up the banner.

SAHO I will add you to friends later on when I play some more after work :)

Some queries:
  • Any do's/don'ts I should bear in mind as F2P here? I don't want to brick my account. I think saving jade crystals for better banners is recommended than trading for normal tickets.
  • Out of Roll 2/3 which would you take?
  • If using Roll 3 who should I generally try and comp up early on? I feel like I need a solid DPS in there somewhere.
  • Should I just keep saving tickets/resources until I can get a pity on a better banner where I like the character?
  • If not minding being a light spender what should I get? battle pass for more jade crystals doesn't seem like bad value?
I'm late catching up so everyone has already got you covered with the important advice.

@Joe is right that at the moment you will have enough resources to collect via the main story to more or less guarantee a limited 5*, or two if lucky and depending ony how much time you have to play through.

As @Vincentdante mentioned, Bronya is the best rated of the non-limited 5*s (even though I don't have her yet heh, but definitely agree on waifu first, boooo husbandos boooo! I kid, Gepard is very good). Generally the harmony characters are the most versatile and useful with most team comps and less affected by powercreep. The current banners' Robin is fantastic as well and has really helped me clear a lot of the tougher content outside of the story mode. In terms of DPS, whilst the current Feixiao is a monster, you're probably better off saving your resources for an AOE type character as I felt a lot of boss characters would keep summoning lots of annoying goons that may be slower to clear with an ST DPS. I'd suggest to keep some savings for the next Firefly banner, as she is an incredibly strong AOE, but also gets one of her best supports for free in the Imaginary Trailblazer (unlocked later on though in Penacony) and an excellent second support/healer in Gallagher, who being 4* would be easier to pull, or even obtain from some events that pop up intermittently rewarding you a free 4*(sometimes from a limited selection though). Acheron is also of the two the strongest DPSs alongside Firefly, but I think a tad bit more difficult to play with as you are kind of locked into having to put in two nihility characters to get the most of her damage potential. You mentioned Tingyun and she is also a very, very good Harmony punching well above her 4* weight and relatively easy to build.

Which brings me to the grinding * shudder *. The game8 and prydwen sites are indeed good for reference and if possible try to go for/build characters that can share similar relic sets that are easier to get early in the game. Grinding for multiple different sets can become a pain thanks to the RNG for a high number of variables and multiple potential combinations of stats to try for based on the characters in question. In this regard, Tingyun's and Robin's I found easier to farm as they can use common sets needing one of the commoner ATK stat favoured for both for example.
For 5* light cones, try getting the f2p ones from Herta's store when you get access to it. I would use special passes to pull for limited 5* characters preferentially until you have enough good ones, prior to using them for pulling 5* light cones.

I'd second @SAHO that:
  • you never spend the jades on normal passes and only get the special passes for the limited banners
  • always use resources that naturally build up on the embers exchange store for tickets (and tracks of destiny if enough resources)
  • save up resources in starlight exchange: I was saving these to get the 5* non-limited light cones, but now I feel they're better used as a reserve to buy special passes to fall back if you need that little extra to hit the guarantee on banners for limited characters that you really want/need.
  • I will generally only buy the monthly express supply pass as it's the best value for money (assuming you're logging in daily); I wouldn't normally get the battle pass as the non-stellar jade/star trail pass content you can just get from grinding (of the only two times I bought that, one was for the Sparkle avatar and the second was because I enjoyed the Penacony storyline and appreciated the gacha guarantee system so much that I just felt I owed them some more of my money😂)

My userid is 701474439 btw. Let me know if you need/want to try any particular character that I might have though sadly, unlike in FGO, you can't actually use support characters in most of the more challenging content, though they come in handy for farming.
 
I've added you to my friends list as well @Geriatric hedgehog :)

I was borrowing both Acheron and Kafka from Vincent and Saho for the resource farming bits who seemed fun to use, obviously destroying the stages at my level with ease :)

I'm enjoying the game and it seems like a good filler for when I'm between other games as well, I'm going to keep progressing the main story and unlocking more things to do. I'm trailblazer level 18 or 19 now and my main party is approaching level 30.

I lost my first fight so I finally upgraded some light cones a bit level wise, and also unlocked a few of the first tier tracer skills. I figure these are generally going to be cheap/OK to upgrade, and it's later on that I'll need to worry about specific build priorities more.

My main team of 4 is: Me, Bronya, Natasha, Serval. Serval is OK DPS, and Natasha heals some, but she shares physical damage type with MC-kun so I sometimes lack elements I can break easily. I'll probably change this up when I get some new characters in, I realise I will lack resources to max everyone out so I'm going to be careful on who I level up depending on who I wind up getting.

I purchased the express supply pass as it seemed good value. I had £90 of PSN credit randomly so I've used a bit of that, I think I topped it up aiming to renew my PSN Extra sub but then it lapsed and I've been too busy on other things to do it, so eating some of this up.

What do I do with the 300 crystal things that I got? It looks like I get 2700 jade over 30 days which is great for pull currency, but not sure what I can use the crystals for.
 
I was borrowing both Acheron and Kafka from Vincent and Saho for the resource farming bits who seemed fun to use, obviously destroying the stages at my level with ease :)
Yeah they're both excellent and Acheron will just crush everything heheh. I'll swap my Acheron for Firefly for you to try.
My main team of 4 is: Me, Bronya, Natasha, Serval. Serval is OK DPS, and Natasha heals some, but she shares physical damage type with MC-kun so I sometimes lack elements I can break easily.
That's a pretty good team comp. Bronya I can imagine is amazing and Natasha is also very good as she can clear debuffs with her heals when leveled up (without needing eidolons iirc) and have an emergency heal ready with her ultimate - I'd advise to prioritise leveling these two with Bronya all the way if you can and Natasha as much as reasonable. MC level up but don't do his traces too much as I don't expect you to use the physical variant when you get other stronger characters for that. I really liked Serval's playstyle - great character but again I haven't even got her fully leveled as I got stronger DPSs over time and there are loads of very strong lightning ones as you can see. If you happen to pull a Clara 5*, I would recommend leveling up march 7th as they synergise really well (they were my go to team for over a year heh).
What do I do with the 300 crystal things that I got? It looks like I get 2700 jade over 30 days which is great for pull currency, but not sure what I can use the crystals for.
You mean the oneiric shards you get when buying the express pass etc? You can convert those 1:1 to stellar jades. I usually leave them to build up and, like the starlight exchange, keep them in reserve when I need that extra push to hit guarantee in the limited banners.
 
That's a pretty good team comp. Bronya I can imagine is amazing and Natasha is also very good as she can clear debuffs with her heals when leveled up (without needing eidolons iirc) and have an emergency heal ready with her ultimate - I'd advise to prioritise leveling these two with Bronya all the way if you can and Natasha as much as reasonable

Working on it. Need more levels and things, lots of stuff to unlock/do still!

BTW @Lordhippos let me know if you want to try out any particular character, there's a decent chance I or someone here will already own them and happy to put them up for trial. I will say that I don't have Kafka or Black Swan though which are fairly big names lol.

I'll update here but I think I agree with @Geriatric hedgehog I need a good AOE DPS to compliment the team and get me through more waves of mobs.

I'm still trying to learn who everyone is and what the characters can do, plus all the lingo etc they use. Learning curves :)

If anyone wants to add me on HSR, my ID is 700020127. The three support characters I have up are my E2S1 Acheron, E0S1 Jingliu and E0 Kafka with S5 GNSW.

I've added ya :)

I've got over 3000 jade now so I think enough for about 2 multis on the special banners. I'm going to keep saving for now. I have about 10 special tickets as well so I could pull maybe 30 times in total at the moment.

I've done 20 or 30 pulls on the normal banner all from standard rewards and I have not gained much there, mainly some light cones and a dupe of Asta.
 
I'll update here but I think I agree with @Geriatric hedgehog I need a good AOE DPS to compliment the team and get me through more waves of mobs.
You are in luck. My Argenti which is currently on my list is an AOE DPS. Next patch there is a character called Rappa who also falls into that category, but she is break focused DPS instead of CRIT focused so unfortunately while she will be good she might not work well with your current team.
 
I think current set of banners run for a while yet so I think I'll need to sleep on the decision some.

Design/style wise I'm a big fan of Kafka honestly, but realise she may not be the absolute best. Acheron as well. Firefly seems like she is Darling in the FranXX with mostly single target DPS but her ultimate being AOE. Not sure I liked her as much as the others so far but I'll try and play around with all the different options you guys have given me!

Once I get a good AOE damage dealer I'd probably consider next a good healer or single target DPS as well.
 
I think current set of banners run for a while yet so I think I'll need to sleep on the decision some.

Design/style wise I'm a big fan of Kafka honestly, but realise she may not be the absolute best. Acheron as well. Firefly seems like she is Darling in the FranXX with mostly single target DPS but her ultimate being AOE. Not sure I liked her as much as the others so far but I'll try and play around with all the different options you guys have given me!

Once I get a good AOE damage dealer I'd probably consider next a good healer or single target DPS as well.

Damn I never heard anyone call Kafka a bad character before XD. Kafka is actually one of the best DoT DPS units in the game and when paired with Black Swan they are actually unstoppable still. You really can't go wrong if you wanted one of those two. I agree with you that you should get characters you enjoy over characters that are meta though. Honestly take your time, the game is meant to be fun after all.

Firefly is an example of a break DPS and she is currently the best one in the game too. She isn't really AOE, she does what is called blast damage which depending on who you ask might be more preferable. Single target and AOE are self explanatory but blast damage is an in between that is single target but does additional damage that bleeds onto opponents next to the target by a lesser amount, basically destruction characters are the best at doing this. Break DPS needs a specific team to function properly though, Harmony trailblazer who you get later on is an essential character for break DPS to work, and a character called Ruan Mei is also preferred.
 
Damn I never heard anyone call Kafka a bad character before XD. Kafka is actually one of the best DoT DPS units in the game and when paired with Black Swan they are actually unstoppable still. You really can't go wrong if you wanted one of those two. I agree with you that you should get characters you enjoy over characters that are meta though. Honestly take your time, the game is meant to be fun after all.

Firefly is an example of a break DPS and she is currently the best one in the game too. She isn't really AOE, she does what is called blast damage which depending on who you ask might be more preferable. Single target and AOE are self explanatory but blast damage is an in between that is single target but does additional damage that bleeds onto opponents next to the target by a lesser amount, basically destruction characters are the best at doing this. Break DPS needs a specific team to function properly though, Harmony trailblazer who you get later on is an essential character for break DPS to work, and a character called Ruan Mei is also preferred.

Bad is definitely the wrong term I think! the list SAHO linked puts both Kafka and Black Swan (I love her key art!) in the S-tier overall/DPS rankings, so I figured she may not be as good as some other characters, as opposed to being bad.

Whether you need SS-tier to do everything is I suppose another factor vs fun/enjoyment of using the characters you like.

As relative f2p with just the battle pass I'm still somewhat limited on who I can pull so my ideal scenario is mainly pulling for top tier characters who I also like design wise, but I still don't think I've even seen everyone yet!

I did some extra stuff yesterday and looks like I have about 5k jade/oneric crystal things combined, and more than 10 tickets so I think I could do around 40 or so pulls on the special banners now. I'll build up some more currency though, TB level 24 ish with tons of stuff to do in the missions/activities.
 
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I can confirm you do not need the best of the best to max out the end game content, it just makes it easier.

In that case I could very well pull for Kafka and Black Swan. I'm going to delay deciding though as long as I can so I can lock in what resources I have.

It's handy that I have Bronya because in some ways she may dictate who I want to pair up with for most things. I'd like a better healer/support than Natasha as well though she's alright at the moment!
 
I've finished up I think most of the first world now, TB level 25 and an epic fight which felt like the end of the area.

I've unlocked all 3 different branches now for MC-kun as well.

Drawn on the banner a few times now for the standard pass, got a dupe of March 7th and what I think is my 1st 5* light cone, one called "In the name of the world". Looks a bit situational to me so not sure it's the best one I could get. I prefer flat bonuses to things that are always useful without much setup.

6200 jade + 300 crystals so enough for about 4 multi pulls now + my 12 tickets, over 50 pulls in the bank easily and growing, they add up quickly.

Still got tons of things to go through and do, and just general stuff to learn. Unlocked 3rd assignment slot as well. For now mostly sending the assignments on xp/light cone xp/money. Worth looking at other options?
 
I've got over 3000 jade now so I think enough for about 2 multis on the special banners.
One thing to keep in mind, though you probably read this already - your pulls towards guarantee always roll over to the next relative banner eg limited to limited - so if you've done 50 pulls on Kafka (great character by the way!) without pulling her, but then decide to switch over to pulling on Black Swan's banner, your guarantee is still in effect at the same level with 40 to go until you hit a guaranteed 5* - the only thing is that it's 50:50 whether you get the limited character of the banner, or any one of the non-limited ones (which is why you only ever use jades for special passes for the limited banners). But, in the event you get a non-limited 5*, then you are guaranteed a limited character the next time you hit guarantee, with it resetting thereafter. That's what I love about their system over FGO's, in that no pulls will go to waste in terms of the guarantee.
My Argenti which is currently on my list is an AOE DPS
He's a great AOE one. And I agree that destruction characters feel like the strongest overall as they can have pretty high single target damage as well have the ability to clear mobs in the process. As @Vincentdante mentioned - keep in mind that a lot will do splash damage to adjacent mobs and not every mob on the field, so just check that as relevant. I don't even notice Firefly is blast damage as she just pulverizes everything once you've got a built up roster and got that harmony trailblazer further down the line - definitely worth pulling for once her banner re-rolls. I love the Darling in the Franxx comparison 😂. But I now realize that in asking you to try her out I completely forgot that that would have spoilt part of the story for you 🤦‍♂️ - my sincere apologies for that - I'm so sorry 😞🙏...

But I yeah I strongly second pulling for characters you both like the design of and have good utility - one 4* character I think that has some of the best designs by far is Xueyi, and I keep trying to use her as a result even though she's not as powerful as a lot of others. My favourite overall is Acheron - great design, great character and arguably the strongest in the meta right now.
Once I get a good AOE damage dealer I'd probably consider next a good healer or single target DPS as well.
You will likely get the 4* healer Lynx soon who, like Tingyun, punches well above her weight at 5* level - highly recommend building her up as she will see to all your healer requirements - I only very recently got my first 5* healer, as I didn't feel any urgency getting one earlier with Lynx and the 4* Natasha and more recent Gallagher as backups. There is Lingsha coming up next banner who is looking like she may possibly be the best/most balanced? healer and an upgrade to Gallagher if that's important for your playstyle.

One other point I'd suggest to keep an eye on is having a balance of a few good DPSs with different elemental damage, as it really helps breaking toughness meters otherwise it make some content more difficult/slower to clear. That or consider pulling Silver Wolf if her banner re-runs as she can actually plant weakness to any of your preferred/leveled up DPS.

Honestly take your time, the game is meant to be fun after all.
Ultimately, this is the most important point, everything else will fall into place if you like the gameplay and stories.

Whether you need SS-tier to do everything is I suppose another factor vs fun/enjoyment of using the characters you like.

As relative f2p with just the battle pass I'm still somewhat limited on who I can pull so my ideal scenario is mainly pulling for top tier characters who I also like design wise, but I still don't think I've even seen everyone yet!
I think the ss-tier and s-tier ones don't have a lot in between them - what matters more is your eventual preferred gameplay style. And thanks to the guarantee and how many jades you will generally get just from playing the game you'll be perfect fine as relative f2p like I am heh.
Oh absolutely. Having Bronya gives you a great leg up. If any characters rerun that work well with her I will let you know :)
Actually @Vincentdante you have a really good Jing Liu in your roster who may pair well with @ lordhippos Bronya. Another one you could try with Bronya is Imbibitor Lunae (another story spoiler alert here btw before you try him, though a bit more obvious heh). Both are destruction with splash type AOE gameplay but amongst the most powerful in the game.
Unlocked 3rd assignment slot as well. For now mostly sending the assignments on xp/light cone xp/money. Worth looking at other options?
These are useful to get materials for levelling. Of the final four in total, I use only one slot for materials nowadays and the other 3 always for money, character & light cone xp as you're doing now. Always need the latter 3 universally for levelling up.
 
One thing to keep in mind, though you probably read this already - your pulls towards guarantee always roll over to the next relative banner eg limited to limited

This isn't dissimilar to Sword of Convallaria then, debut banner has a 180 hard pity, 50/50 on SSR, and they roll over to banners of the same type. But the main difference seems to be that there is no automatic win on the 50/50 after losing it once.

If banner pity is 90 then it means the max it can be is 180 right?

If I pull say 50 and get an SSR, but it's someone else, does this mean I'm getting the banner character 90 pulls later, so getting an early SSE isn't awful as it ensures you can get the banner character quicker?

He's a great AOE one. And I agree that destruction characters feel like the strongest overall as they can have pretty high single target damage as well have the ability to clear mobs in the process. As @Vincentdante mentioned - keep in mind that a lot will do splash damage to adjacent mobs and not every mob on the field, so just check that as relevant. I don't even notice Firefly is blast damage as she just pulverizes everything once you've got a built up roster and got that harmony trailblazer further down the line - definitely worth pulling for once her banner re-rolls. I love the Darling in the Franxx comparison 😂. But I now realize that in asking you to try her out I completely forgot that that would have spoilt part of the story for you 🤦‍♂️ - my sincere apologies for that - I'm so sorry 😞🙏...

No worries. Problem with Argenti is husbando not waifu! :D

I did try him though, and he does a good amount of damage for sure, though the content I am using him on is like level 30 odd so he's able to solo clear all of it same as basically any of the supports. It will be more interesting seeing how they play when I can't just one shot everything with them anymore!

You will likely get the 4* healer Lynx soon who, like Tingyun, punches well above her weight at 5* level - highly recommend building her up as she will see to all your healer requirements - I only very recently got my first 5* healer, as I didn't feel any urgency getting one earlier with Lynx and the 4* Natasha and more recent Gallagher as backups. There is Lingsha coming up next banner who is looking like she may possibly be the best/most balanced? healer and an upgrade to Gallagher if that's important for your playstyle.

I do like/want a good healer/sustain but it does seem like DPS/utility is more king in this game so far, and healers aren't necessarily needed as much. Am interested in Lingsha!

One other point I'd suggest to keep an eye on is having a balance of a few good DPSs with different elemental damage, as it really helps breaking toughness meters otherwise it make some content more difficult/slower to clear. That or consider pulling Silver Wolf if her banner re-runs as she can actually plant weakness to any of your preferred/leveled up DPS.

Yeah it does seem like you need more than 1-2 of them but I'm going to have to focus a bit for now, probably later on I could build out more :)
 
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