Viewster's Omakase Details Revealed

VIewster risk slipping into Animax teritory with this stunt and if that happens I wonder if AL won't find it more worth their time to just try and find a way to get their stuff on CR or simialr.
 
st_owly said:
Also, as long as you can't choose the contents of the box you get each time, there is a very real risk it will be something you're not interested in. With the amount of money they're wanting for it, that's not a risk I'm prepared or willing to take.
To be fair, it does seem they're going to post information about the box in advance of sending it so if they keep that up then you could just stay subscribed for the ones you want and cancel in-between. That still makes it a bit fussy though and it's not clear if they're going to give full information on what's in the box or just list a few key items.

I guess it'd be easier if they just made it possible for streaming subscribers to order each box during a given period (with subscribing to boxes or maybe paying in advance at a discount extra options). That said, the advantage of making it a subscribe/unsubscribe option for them is that people might forget and buy extra or just not be bothered enough to cancel when they're not so keen on the current box.
 
Andrew is still unrepentant about working with Animax, pigs will fly before they drop a streamer for general crapiness.

Also, AL have a relationship with Crunchyroll, I believe they acquired Gangsta. and Prison School in French-speaking territories from them. It's clear Crunchyroll don't care about the UK, we're just fortunate that we speak American so often get grouped with them...
 
st_owly said:
Considering a CR subscription is £40 per year IIRC, this is pretty poor value IMO.
Unless I'm missing something, one years crunchyroll premium is £59.88 and a years premium+ is £107.88 which is still cheaper then the £189.36 total (currency markets depending considering it can go up or drop like a large lump of concrete) for a years Omasake but you get more then crunchyroll premium+ where some features are only good if you live in the states.
 
demonix said:
st_owly said:
Considering a CR subscription is £40 per year IIRC, this is pretty poor value IMO.
Unless I'm missing something, one years crunchyroll premium is £59.88 and a years premium+ is £107.88 which is still cheaper then the £189.36 total (currency markets depending considering it can go up or drop like a large lump of concrete) for a years Omasake but you get more then crunchyroll premium+ where some features are only good if you live in the states.

I believe you can get a discount if you buy the full year in advance, but I don't know how much it is.
 
This is whhy I'll never stream.

Honestly, the fact that there are details to even take time considering is an INSTANT dealbreaker for me. Stuff that. Physical media or nothing, for me.
 
Buzzkillington said:
Unless it's changed since I renewed, you can get 1 year for £40.
I can confirm this

£40 p/a gets you four seasons of anime, a years worth of manga (Both ongoing and catalogue) and a ever growing catalogue of J Drama including Ultraman.

Against that you have, for roughly £200 pa, "You can have ad free streams but you have to deal with this Lootcrate knock off box taking up space (Space which I don't have to give away to random tat btb), And we have crap TV Clients and our Application Clients are just borderline acceptable and we may paywall anyone who doesn't want to be embuggered by all this.

I know which one has my £40 right now and which one is getting the scorn.

Buzz201 said:
Andrew is still unrepentant about working with Animax, pigs will fly before they drop a streamer for general crapiness.
He'll change his tune about that if Viewster (Which is the only place to see a lot of AL Stuff) suddenly starts acting up and everyone decides to take a trip on Kaptin K. Rools Boat of convenience / Only way I'm going to be able to watch it as is what I would have to do to watch the shows I wanted to watch this season ie: Heavy Object and Failed Knight.
 
ConanThe3rd said:
Buzzkillington said:
Unless it's changed since I renewed, you can get 1 year for £40.
I can confirm this

£40 p/a gets you four seasons of anime, a years worth of manga (Both ongoing and catalogue) and a ever growing catalogue of J Drama including Ultraman.

Against that you have, for roughly £200 pa, "You can have ad free streams but you have to deal with this Lootcrate knock off box taking up space (Space which I don't have to give away to random tat btb), And we have crap TV Clients and our Application Clients are just borderline acceptable and we may paywall anyone who doesn't want to be embuggered by all this.

I know which one has my £40 right now and which one is getting the scorn.

Another big problem only I seem to have noticed is that Viewster's files regularly have noticeable encoding errors, I've seen episodes drop out completely, episodes with random blips and episodes where the audio was completely garbled for most of the episode. And some files, the picture quality is just awful, I was watching Bakemonogatari last night and was having to squint because some of the burnt in subtitles were a bit blurry at 480p. Unless they change their infrastructure for HD, that'll still be a problem.
 
I wish I was in a position where I could afford a Loot Crate-style subscription, but I'm not. I would however, be totally willing to pay a streaming-only subscription if they offered one.

Also, can Viewster please get applications on consoles other than the XBox 360? If I remember correctly, do we still need an XBox Live membership to use the app?
 
I have to admit, I had a lot of goodwill toward Viewster, but this has really tainted it - especially when held up against what Crunchyroll offers for substantially less money, it's a bit of a joke. Even more so when you consider their player and catalogue isn't as large as Crunchyroll either.

The Omakase box would be reasonable enough, especially if it has genuine exclusives in it, but the addition of the hefty postage fees and lack of a digital only offer instantly make it a no-go for me. I want to support them, but not at those prices - especially as much of the packages will likely be tat I'll never use.

I really hope they take the feedback on board - as personally I've seen very little but negative reaction to the announcement yesterday.

I'd like to second the opinion that I'd rather see AL acquisitions on Crunchyroll instead of Viewster at this rate.
 
Why are people assuming Crunchyroll is an option for AL? They almost certainly aren't, the fact the AL had both UK, Ireland & French-speaking rights to Gangsta. and Crunchyroll only went after French-speaking rights kinda makes it clear that Crunchyroll weren't/aren't in the market for UK & Ireland only rights.

I hate to break it to people, but it's probably Viewster or Animax at this point. There is nobody else...
 
There has been no positives stated on this page so should be called I HATE VIEWSTER NOW foum. I am well up for it as it looks worth and they support the UK industry which CR don't they only care about US and give UK some titles and most of the time the best is the US only ( Lupin a recent example). If you don't want it deal with adverts or just dont use viewster they must have made a business decision to sell the product this way. And they support the UK much more than CR or others do as e.g. they come to cons i don't think CR does that here.
 
thedoctor2016 said:
There has been no positives stated on this page so should be called I HATE VIEWSTER NOW foum. I am well up for it as it looks worth and they support the UK industry which CR don't they only care about US and give UK some titles and most of the time the best is the US only ( Lupin a recent example). If you don't want it deal with adverts or just dont use viewster they must have made a business decision to sell the product this way. And they support the UK much more than CR or others do as e.g. they come to cons i don't think CR does that here.

I don't think anyone here "Hates" Viewster,we just don't like the idea of HD streaming being ransomed behind a box of tat.I will continue to use their app and I appreciate what they've done in streaming shows we might not be able to see otherwise,but for £30 for something no one was really asking for to begin with being the main focus of the whole thing is not really the way to go.
 
Type45 said:
thedoctor2016 said:
There has been no positives stated on this page so should be called I HATE VIEWSTER NOW foum. I am well up for it as it looks worth and they support the UK industry which CR don't they only care about US and give UK some titles and most of the time the best is the US only ( Lupin a recent example). If you don't want it deal with adverts or just dont use viewster they must have made a business decision to sell the product this way. And they support the UK much more than CR or others do as e.g. they come to cons i don't think CR does that here.

I don't think anyone here "Hates" Viewster,we just don't like the idea of HD streaming being ransomed behind a box of tat.I will continue to use their app and I appreciate what they've done in streaming shows we might not be able to see otherwise,but for £30 for something no one was really asking for to begin with being the main focus of the whole thing is not really the way to go.

I just feels like hate as no one is saying any positives.
 
Buzz201 said:
Why are people assuming Crunchyroll is an option for AL? They almost certainly aren't, the fact the AL had both UK, Ireland & French-speaking rights to Gangsta. and Crunchyroll only went after French-speaking rights kinda makes it clear that Crunchyroll weren't/aren't in the market for UK & Ireland only rights.

I hate to break it to people, but it's probably Viewster or Animax at this point. There is nobody else...
Then there's no body else.
 
I don't think Crunchyroll will be a generally viable option for people either considering how a lot of streaming options have become available recently, and even they are struggling to get series properly. From this season, they've got nothing that is eye catching other than Gundam: Iron Blooded orphans. And even then, that's delayed by a week. funimation latch onto releases and don't show any of it outwith the US. The other saving grace is daisuki who have the main show this season, One-Punch man. And they have the simulcast rights to Gundam too. Even with access to the US side of crunchy, they haven't got much worthwhile this season.
Viewsters methodology is flawed. It's as simple as that. Does it mean i'll stop using them? No, not at all. They have so many shows i want to watch, that i will continue to use them. What the omakase bundle does mean however, is that i will not be subbing with them. I have no room or space for the merchandise at present, nor do i usually fancy a random "lootcrate" style release every month. I would just want them for the streaming service, so an option for that would be the smartest thing to provide at a more appealing rate. I cannot justify the equivalent of £20 per 2 months for a service i'd only use, only half of i guess? I think they need to re-evaluate how to work with this. I can see people wanting it, but it feels like they want to try and push the omakase on us when a lot of us still don't know if we want it.
 
Arbalest said:
I don't think Crunchyroll will be a generally viable option for people either considering how a lot of streaming options have become available recently, and even they are struggling to get series properly. From this season, they've got nothing that is eye catching other than Gundam: Iron Blooded orphans. And even then, that's delayed by a week. funimation latch onto releases and don't show any of it outwith the US. The other saving grace is daisuki who have the main show this season, One-Punch man. And they have the simulcast rights to Gundam too. Even with access to the US side of crunchy, they haven't got much worthwhile this season.
Viewsters methodology is flawed. It's as simple as that. Does it mean i'll stop using them? No, not at all. They have so many shows i want to watch, that i will continue to use them. What the omakase bundle does mean however, is that i will not be subbing with them. I have no room or space for the merchandise at present, nor do i usually fancy a random "lootcrate" style release every month. I would just want them for the streaming service, so an option for that would be the smartest thing to provide at a more appealing rate. I cannot justify the equivalent of £20 per 2 months for a service i'd only use, only half of i guess? I think they need to re-evaluate how to work with this. I can see people wanting it, but it feels like they want to try and push the omakase on us when a lot of us still don't know if we want it.
Concrete Revolutio will be on Daisuki on a week's delay, so FUNi haven't quite locked up all their titles. It is disappointing that FUNi got a delay on all English-speaking regions when they can't be arsed to steam it in all of them themselves.
 
ConanThe3rd said:
And all the while [insert pirate allusion here, I can't be bothered] saying "yarrrrr".

I don't know, you'll need an extra week to prepare your eyes for Concrete Revolutio. That show is basically 'ColourVom: The Anime'.
 
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