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Rui said:
Excel Saga is also very referential and while there are some of us out there who recognise what it's trying to do, the fact is that if you haven't seen the series it's referencing it will often need explaining.
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I disagree. When I first watched Excel Saga I had no idea for the most what series it was referencing and it still managed to be extremely funny because the jokes were still firmly structured around a story. I've heard it being compared to Family Guy because of its style of humour but Family Guy is one of those shows where most of the jokes have little to no relevance to the story. Very different.

Comedy is subjective and is probably the biggest divider of all entertainment. Aion really seems to enjoy Love Hina for example (while talking about repeating the same joke every episode). To each their own.
 
Aion said:
The fact it has semi-decent ratings just proves that there are far too many idiots who failed to completely evolve from monkeys.
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It proves that, like everything else, humour is subjective. For what it's worth, I don't enjoy Excel Saga much, but I'd stop short of questioning the evolutionary development of those who do ^_^;

Now, fans of shounen fighting shows on the other hand... :p
 
And yet to me the humour in Excel Saga fed off its references. I enjoyed the Pedro stuff (yep) and the latent absurdity of the show, but it was the references which would often make me double take and giggle. I'm sure dozens went over my head even then...

I guess it works (and doesn't work respectively) on many levels. Sy's "comedy is subjective" line says it all.

R
 
Sy said:
Aion really seems to enjoy Love Hina for example (while talking about repeating the same joke every episode). To each their own.
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I'll admit, you caught me there. :p

It's almost unnatural that I like Love Hina so much when it's slow-paced, perverted, has many of the same jokes repeated in different ways and is fairly unoriginal. But it seems as if EVERYONE (about from Fabio, who has awful taste - seriously) loves Love Hina and, for whatever reason, feel compelled to keep reading.

Excel Saga isn't charming, isn't funny beyond the first episode and has no likeable characters. It has none of what makes me love Love Hina so much. It tries hard to be funny but, ultimately, just comes off as stupid and doesn't warm my cold heart like slice-of-life Love Hina does.
 
I don't like Love Hina either. I really wanted to because the art is absolutely gorgeous in the manga, and even the anime makes use of one of my favourite character designers. But it's not really aimed at me and the humour doesn't quite do it for me despite its general popularity.

I like absurd humour (grew up with Monty Python...) so Excel Saga's ridiculousness somehow hits the right notes. There's one part I'm laughing at right now remembering despite not having seen it since it first came to R1 DVD.

R
 
I agree with Aion about Excel Saga. It is just obscure with it's humour and excel is annoying with her loudness. I have just watched FLCL and that is how you do that type of anime! Azumanga Diaoh is another anime that does it better than excel saga!
 
You know as far as Excel being loud I don't think she's actually that loud as much fast talking. If you're talking about the dub though then I agree totally. To make up for the lack of speed all the actors just shout everything (but that's the ADV team for you). Excel Saga has one of the worst English dubs I've ever heard.

I wouldn't really put Azumanga under the same style of comedy as FLCL or Excel. It's so relaxed and restrained compared the the madcap blasts of constant energy in Excel and FLCL.
 
Rui said:
I like absurd humour (grew up with Monty Python...) so Excel Saga's ridiculousness somehow hits the right notes. There's one part I'm laughing at right now remembering despite not having seen it since it first came to R1 DVD.

R
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That's pretty much the reason i enjoyed it as well, i like comedy when it doesn't take itself seriously. I'll also agree with the dub, its no wonder the original dub actress had to be replaced halfway through. Watching it subbed proved to be the best choice :p Plus ADV did a good job on the subs front, providing the little notes to what refrences were there (a feature carried on to the Pani Poni Dash DVDs)
 
Sy said:
I've heard it being compared to Family Guy because of its style of humour but Family Guy is one of those shows where most of the jokes have little to no relevance to the story. Very different.
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That's the same criticism South Park made of Family Guy. Surely in a comedy show the most important thing is how witty/funny the comedy is not the structure of the story?
 
Ark said:
That's the same criticism South Park made of Family Guy. Surely in a comedy show the most important thing is how witty/funny the comedy is not the structure of the story?
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You can get a few laughs out of Family Guy but for the most part it's just a string of random references that make no particular sense week after week. That's why story structure and characters are important, they hold everything together rather than just being vessels for sight gags and one liners. Take Peter Griffin, sure there's the odd funny joke but what's his personality? Fat, stupid and whatever else the episode requires him to be. The Simpsons is pretty much the same in that sense now.
 
Sy said:
You can get a few laughs out of Family Guy but for the most part it's just a string of random references that make no particular sense week after week.
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Well if you don't get the references they probably won't be very funny.

Sy said:
Take Peter Griffin, sure there's the odd funny joke but what's his personality? Fat, stupid and whatever else the episode requires him to be. The Simpsons is pretty much the same in that sense now.
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Peter Griffin's a TV addict, pervert and borderline mysoginist. He's unpleasant but he's recognisably unpleasant. Whereas Homer Simpson's just unrealistically stupid and lazy.
 
Comedy is the most subjective entertainment form of all. It's all about the laughs, and you either get it or you don't. You're not able to gain any pleasure from the performances, cinematography, story, or direction if the jokes don't click with you. Whereas with other genres there is always the possibility of redeeming features if the major aspects misfire.

I love Excel Saga and Love Hina... go fig.

But then again, whenever I watch Cromartie High School, I feel like I'm watching self-referential, and over complicated one-joke humour, that disappears up its own rectum for the majority of episodes. I like Freddie though.
 
Personally, I find comedy most funny where the amusing things occur in a realistic enviroment, complete with believable characters. That's why I enjoy watching TV series like Balls of Steel and Fonejacker, series where pranks are played on normal, unexpecting people.

A good example of the humour I like is in Welcome to the NHK. In that there's a scene where the main character attempts to cure himself of his loli fetish by taking upskirt pictures of school girls, with his friend meant to take a picture of him doing it so he'll be able to look at it and see how disgusting he is. The main character is there snapping away, talking to his friend (who he thinks is stood behind him), and he's tapped on the shoulder by a girl he knows. Another good example from NHK is the part where the suicidal main character is stood on a cliff, waiting to be talked down, and the character who is supposed to be talking him down tells him she wants him to live because he's more worthless than her.

...basically, I get kicks out of believable comedy.

Seeing retarded people do retarded things does nothing for me. There's nothing funny about characters making jokes that are unbelievable and too far-fetched. The jokes have to be very, very good to get a laugh out of me if it's a joke played out by actors... Only a few Hollywood flicks and Worst Week come to mind.
 
It's not really unbelievable...or, at least it's 100% faithful to reality when compared to Excel Saga.

A promise made between a 2 and a 5 year old being fulfilled 15 years later is difficult to believe would ever happen in our ****** world, and it's even harder to imagine a 20 year old virgin ending up lucky enough to live with 4 hot women (and get a 5th after him), but nearly everything else was perfectly belivable. It's a slice of life story; not a story set in some far off future or on a different planet, and the author followed the real Japanese college/university system. Really, the only completely unbelivable aspects were Su's inventions and Motoko's sword skills.
 
I think the word "pranks" is a red flag in general for me. I find them quite cringeworthy.

The only Western humour I've enjoyed in recent years is Frasier, which I adore enough to make up for not liking many other shows. I'm also a fan of Futurama and The Simpsons though never really latched on to Family Guy and the others in that vein. That's not to say that I don't laugh at jokes in other shows, just that the more popular styles of comedy at the moment don't quite seem to work for me.

I love Cromartie (it reminds me, again, of Monty Python style absurdist comedy. Nothing really makes sense, but it's not really the point...).

R
 
It's about a guy living with a bunch of chicks in a hot spring where every girl ends up falling for him even though he's portrayed as your stereotypical nerd right down to the Noel Edmonds sweater. He also gets punched in the face so hard that he gets put into orbit. Oh crap! You're right that's pretty damn close to reality. :lol:

I don't buy it. :p
 
Although, as I've said, it does have unbelivable aspects, the belivability given to it by the real world setting and lack of alien lifeforms allow me to enjoy it.

And who doesn't enjoy watching a fiery hottie beat-up a guy? The most attractive female is one who can kick your arse if you piss her off...and protect you, doing all the fighting for you. ^.^
 
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