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As i said previously I would kill for an UBW of decent quality so it would make me epic happy. Still an original route that took the core of UBW would also be amazing...

Still until its confirmed i'll assume nothing...
 
anime_andrew said:
HdE said:
I also agree that the release plan for Kill La Kill is insane. Multi-volume releases feel like a step backwards in the market. Although, I do appreciate the difficulties and dictates involved.

I'm interested in the statements that cheaper releases of certain shows are likely to show up at some point, though. That seems like a necessary step.
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For Kill la Kill - it's not really insane - it's just a more sensible model for our market than 4 episodes for £35 (+ import taxes). You get at least double the episodes and we're working on very solid extras for it - plus far more rigid packaging (I've picked up the US one to compare - so can say with certainty out of all the releases outside of Japan, ours will definitely feel great).
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I must apologise, Andrew - I just realised I got my facts mixed up on this one For some reason, I had the idea that it was going to be a 4 / 5 volume release. (I blame my workload - my head is awash with numbers and stats right now.)

On this point, though, I'll say a little more:

anime_andrew said:
If all goes to plan (ho ho ho) then you're looking at 100+ pages of artworks / storyboards with the first part alone though - so that's something to be excited about too :).

Not ideal as obviously I'd rather work in two parts, not three - but this would be the best compromise I could manage I'm afraid. Things like contents and pricing can still be set too (I mean we could go £39.99 / £44.99 and only a 48 page booklet if people aren't so fussed, I just feel pretty psyched by KLK so want to get you guys the best extras we can).
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This is one of those instances where I sort of think 'just gimme the show!'

I appreciate that these are neat extras, and represent a nice gesture toward fans. But, speaking solely for myelf here, they're things I wouldn't be overly bothered about. Even as a working designer / comic book guy, things like bundled art books / booklets don't hold a lot of appeal for me.

Just offering my viewpoint as 'Consumer X' here. I'm very much the meat-and-potatoes kind of anime fan. So long as I've got a show on nice, shiny discs and a box to put them in, I'm happy.
 
Jon O Fun said:
Just a quick question for Andrew, obviously some people are unhappy with the price point of KLK but as you've said there will be a more budget version down the line. For me I see yours as the best release option (3 vols beats 5 any day) my question is: the first volume is srp £60 obviously gonna be a bit cheaper on Amazon etc but will vols 2 & 3 be the same? I'm guessing you can't stick a 100 page book with every one. To be honest with you if it was 1st vol £40 - £45 (after store discounts) 2nd & 3rd £30'ish I'd be pretty OK with that :)
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Bizarrely there have been a /tonne/ of visual assets per release with KLK in Japan - every volume comes with an art book inside the case - it's really blown me away seeing each sample. So I'd like to transfer as much of that as we can. That said it of course really hinges on what we can do but I did want to do:

Volume 1: Rigid case + 100-200 page book (depending on permissions & approvals)
Volume 2: Rigid case + 50-100 page book (depending on permissions & approvals)
Volume 3: Rigid case + other goodies TBC + box to hold all 3 (depending on permissions & approvals)

If we're very very careful we maybe could do it at SRP: £59.99, SRP £49.99 and SRP £59.99 (a rigid box to hold 3 x rigid boxes is pretty extreme cost wise as you can imagine...

Will mull over as have time to consider the model slightly though until we list at end of August!

Jon O Fun said:
Also on Hal it is a bit expensive but sounds like a pretty solid release but my problem and I'd think some others is I haven't seen it! (anybody who has is 25% seen at festival 75% pirated) how's about sticking it on Netflix for a month to give people a chance to see it or even put it on for the weekend of Scotland Loves Anime like Crunchyroll did with the dubbed JoJo's :) just an idea.
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Would love to stick it on - but sadly doesn't work that way for that particular platform! But doesn't mean we couldn't have a subtitled preview weekend or something via another platform like Vimeo or Wakanim though for legitimate watching though - so let me see what I can do he says pondering...

Andrew
 
To be fair KLK is such a hot series a higher price point is likely justified within reason... And it probably warrants top tier treatment...

Anyways in opposition to my earlier comments looks like UBW is confirmed. So who's going to licence it and be taking my money, i wonder?
 
HdE said:
I must apologise, Andrew - I just realised I got my facts mixed up on this one For some reason, I had the idea that it was going to be a 4 / 5 volume release. (I blame my workload - my head is awash with numbers and stats right now.)
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Not a problem! I know that feeling well and no - at 4-5 volumes I couldn't justify collector's packaging so would be forced down the same path Manga UK took with SAO and I don't think that does the product as much justice. Quality of packaging matters a lot to me on first print run especially so that's why I've fought very very hard for one that fits us.

HdE said:
This is one of those instances where I sort of think 'just gimme the show!'

I appreciate that these are neat extras, and represent a nice gesture toward fans. But, speaking solely for myelf here, they're things I wouldn't be overly bothered about. Even as a working designer / comic book guy, things like bundled art books / booklets don't hold a lot of appeal for me.

Just offering my viewpoint as 'Consumer X' here. I'm very much the meat-and-potatoes kind of anime fan. So long as I've got a show on nice, shiny discs and a box to put them in, I'm happy.
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I appreciate that view too - it's a sucky answer on my part but we will cater to that too as soon as we're able to - but it does mean a wait into 2015 though when this run is done. I always feel like an ogre saying it though - the other option is to try and clear a DVD collection complete at the end of the release maybe, but I can see us getting that knocked back too just due to general world-strategies on it.

Lemme see though - I do hear you and I know there is a market on that front.

AP
 
SunlightHeart said:
As i said previously I would kill for an UBW of decent quality so it would make me epic happy. Still an original route that took the core of UBW would also be amazing...

Still until its confirmed i'll assume nothing...
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What more confirmation do you need than being announced at an event that was livestreamed (globally and for free) on niconico? And then being posted on pretty much every anime-related news site of note?
 
Having a look over some of the upcoming Australian release schedules where the Madoka movies and a selection of Gundam titles, I wonder if there's any chance for that on the horizon over here?
 
Agent-347 said:
Sorry, Andrew. It's a long comment, again. But I might have an interesting suggestion with FMP.
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Gonna summarise again to save readability etc:

FMP disc count -> Yep it'd be 8, not 10 but really depends on extras. The Japanese set was 10 so I like to be cautious. 8 is still 2 more BD50s than the Gurren Lagann Ultimate though.

Price for FMP -> £129.99 would have been the SRP - so you'd be looking at £84.99 or so average price probably via retail (hard to really estimate though). Also we'd be re-digitising the Japanese HD masters - so the quality would differ to the Funimation ones (based on reports anyway, I could again be mistaken). So it's hard to estimate what the impact is as the two products also target different demographics - collectors for Anime Ltd vs standard editions from Funimation (both have merits).

Format for FMP-> While a good idea - the issue is it gets complicated when you do that kind of differentiation. Also if you're going to do a premium product the last thing that makes sense is to use Amaray cases, even if Japan uses them. May well look at other options than Digi's though as I know not everyone is keen on them though! So let's see what comes out of that too :).

Interesting point too if you do maths on the SRPs is if we worked on the standard runtime + discs vs price - we'd be looking at > £130 for standard editions of each (if you assume £29.99/34.99 for half series like FUMOFFU and TSR and £59.99 for first season). So you actually probably make a better saving with one ultimate AND better materials too actually...

Single editions are still possible but often off the back of the success of an Ultimate actually.

Think I've missed a few points but even today I have a bunch of things to clear out and realised I've procrastinated a wee bit too long ^^;!

AP
 
anime_andrew said:
FMP disc count -> Yep it'd be 8, not 10 but really depends on extras. The Japanese set was 10 so I like to be cautious. 8 is still 2 more BD50s than the Gurren Lagann Ultimate though.

Price for FMP -> £129.99 would have been the SRP - so you'd be looking at £84.99 or so average price probably via retail (hard to really estimate though). Also we'd be re-digitising the Japanese HD masters - so the quality would differ to the Funimation ones (based on reports anyway, I could again be mistaken). So it's hard to estimate what the impact is as the two products also target different demographics - collectors for Anime Ltd vs standard editions from Funimation (both have merits).AP
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I could be wrong here, but didn't the Japanese BD release of FMP use Funi's upscales much like the JP BD of Samurai Champloo?
Either way, despite owning the Funimation BDs for the entire franchise so far I've only every watched Fumoffu!, so you may still get a sale from me...

Just to throw another question out there for you regarding your online store, did anything ever come from ideas about offering items to customers who pre-order through your shop?
I'm only wondering as the shop seems to have launched and taken a back seat. I don't see you pushing it or anything like that, but then again, it could just be me missing your tweets etc.

Andrew, I also sent you a very quick PM the other day too.


EDIT: Some FSN trailers

Unlimited Blade Works will be adapted as a TV series this fall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spseKv7jtmY

Heaven's Feel will be adapted as a film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X7JEFF9mvs
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I don't how to feel about the depressing as hell route being made as a movie.
 
@anime andrew

1) Hope you go the Ultimate Edition for FMP, already own this but will triple dip :D

2) As you said you were unsure about what to do with Magical Sisters Yoyo & Nene, I was wondering if no one had picked up R1 rights would you consider doing that & kickstarting it as you did with Mai Mai Miracle?

3) In regards to Kill La Kill if you put out anything close to what you are thinking I won't care if its 3 or 5 parts, it will be mine, I would have inported Japanese releases if they had subs. I don't mind paying extra for artbooks etc and regularly buy Nisa titles for that reason (I love their sets)

4) Will your release of Illya have 10 or 11 episodes as I know an extra episode was released with the manga in Japan and when can we expect it? (& hope you pick up rights for season 2)
 
AnimeNut said:
4) Will your release of Illya have 10 or 11 episodes as I know an extra episode was released with the manga in Japan and when can we expect it? (& hope you pick up rights for season 2)
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Given Sentai's release has 11 episodes, Andrew should be able to nab the OVA with their license.
 
I'm glad to see that Unlimited Blade Works will get a proper treatment to a TV series this time around! UBW is still my favourite Fate/Stay Night route. Interesting to see Heaven's Feel will get the movie treatment but that can go either way depending on how many movies that might be
 
In regards to FMP, I think the Ultimate Edition is way more preferable than single releases. Like mentioned previously, if people just want the bog standards, they could have imported. Yet a selling price of around £85 for all 3 seasons, with an artbox, and a bunch of bonus content would make it a much more attractive release. Not to mention the Funi Blu-Rays didn't look that great anyway. I do hope this ends up a digipak as I'd really like some nice art on the packaging. Curious what other options there would be (Thinpaks?). As long as it's not Super Jewel Cases, those things love to break.

I always appreciate the effort Anime Limited put into their releases and the higher prices are justified (200 page Kill la Kill book!!!), and do feel for people that want a cheaper release. I personally am more likely will buy a set with a collectors edition than one without as it shows care has been put into the release rather than just pumping out a few discs.

I do agree about your shop too, it would be great if you pushed it a bit more as your prices easily rival other retailers and all the money goes back into the company rather than say Amazon's pocket. Perhaps pre-order bonuses could entice people to come to you? I know you are super busy, so it's probably just the fact there's not enough hours in the week! I did also notice the Newsletter link on the SHOP doesn't work either.
 
anime_andrew said:
I know that feeling well and no - at 4-5 volumes I couldn't justify collector's packaging so would be forced down the same path Manga UK took with SAO and I don't think that does the product as much justice.
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Quoted as an example of piercing truth shining through the rainclouds.

HdE said:
This is one of those instances where I sort of think 'just gimme the show!'

I appreciate that these are neat extras, and represent a nice gesture toward fans. But, speaking solely for myelf here, they're things I wouldn't be overly bothered about. Even as a working designer / comic book guy, things like bundled art books / booklets don't hold a lot of appeal for me.

Just offering my viewpoint as 'Consumer X' here. I'm very much the meat-and-potatoes kind of anime fan. So long as I've got a show on nice, shiny discs and a box to put them in, I'm happy.
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At that point, why even bother? You can already watch the show legally. You can put a text file with a link to Wakanim on a CD and write "KILL LA K!!!!!!LL" on it to the same effect.
 
Speaking of the Anime Limited online shop, does anybody remember that Manga UK podcast from last year when they said they'd really push their online shop in 2014... lol glad to see they're on top of that!

Has anybody every used their shop manga site? If so why? I'm all for giving money straight to the distributor but even when they have a 'hot deal' you can normally get it elsewhere for £5 - £10 cheaper.

I remember a tweet or a Facebook post or something saying Zavvi are getting the GitS steelbook one week before every other site... THAT'S THE SORT OF OFFER YOU SHOULD BE DOING ON YOUR OWN SHOP!! seriously tho if they had it at the Base price £19 and you got it a week before Amazon that's an instant sale!!
 
Jon O Fun said:
Speaking of the Anime Limited online shop, does anybody remember that Manga UK podcast from last year when they said they'd really push their online shop in 2014... lol glad to see they're on top of that!

Has anybody every used their shop manga site? If so why? I'm all for giving money straight to the distributor but even when they have a 'hot deal' you can normally get it elsewhere for £5 - £10 cheaper.

I remember a tweet or a Facebook post or something saying Zavvi are getting the GitS steelbook one week before every other site... THAT'S THE SORT OF OFFER YOU SHOULD BE DOING ON YOUR OWN SHOP!! seriously tho if they had it at the Base price £19 and you got it a week before Amazon that's an instant sale!!
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My first response to this is, Manga have their own online shop??

So yes they have failed, their shop needs to be like MvM's, you get things early because they are the distributor and have stock a week or two before everyone else. Ideally prices should be competitive given you are selling direct, though perhaps they don't want to compete with Amazon so much that Amazon refused to carry their stock.
 
Rosencrantz said:
Jon O Fun said:
Speaking of the Anime Limited online shop, does anybody remember that Manga UK podcast from last year when they said they'd really push their online shop in 2014... lol glad to see they're on top of that!

Has anybody every used their shop manga site? If so why? I'm all for giving money straight to the distributor but even when they have a 'hot deal' you can normally get it elsewhere for £5 - £10 cheaper.

I remember a tweet or a Facebook post or something saying Zavvi are getting the GitS steelbook one week before every other site... THAT'S THE SORT OF OFFER YOU SHOULD BE DOING ON YOUR OWN SHOP!! seriously tho if they had it at the Base price £19 and you got it a week before Amazon that's an instant sale!!
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My first response to this is, Manga have their own online shop??

So yes they have failed, their shop needs to be like MvM's, you get things early because they are the distributor and have stock a week or two before everyone else. Ideally prices should be competitive given you are selling direct, though perhaps they don't want to compete with Amazon so much that Amazon refused to carry their stock.
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or just do a deal of the week and post it on twitter.
 
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