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ilmaestro
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Oh... my days...
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ayase
State Alchemist
IT'S HAPPENINGilmaestro said:
20thCenturyBoy
Thousand Master
My wireless dongle is refusing to connect and it's driving me mad. I just bought the thing beginning of last week, as my old one was clearly winding down, and it had been working perfectly. Now it' suddenly not wanting to play, only giving me "local connection", initally I thought it was problem with the modem/router and restarted that a few times, got Virgin to check it on their end but they confirmed it's my end. Uninstalled, re-installed, looked online and seems might just be a fault that occurs with the dongle and Vista or something or other. I'll give it until tomorrow night and if I've still got nothing I'll probably just end up buying another new one.
20thCenturyBoy
Thousand Master
It was quite a nice day today which meant pretty girls in short skirts...Hello, Depression and Women Issues, it's only been a week or so, but how I've missed you. I know it's not socially acceptable to approach women randomly in the street, but sometimes I really, really want to.
Even typing that I sound like some sort of borderline rapist.
Even typing that I sound like some sort of borderline rapist.
ayase
State Alchemist
Rubbish. One of the many, many things wrong with society today is that it's not socially acceptable to express your admiration for a stranger's physical form. I can't really understand why it's considered bad form and I'm no hypocrite or male chauvinist - I for one would love the attention. By all means view me as a sex object ladies... even fellas. I'd still take it as a compliment.20thCenturyBoy said:
When I was younger and less ogrelike I was regularly approached by complete strangers in shops and on the street and I imagine that legitimately attractive, more friendly women get it constantly. I do personally find it annoying, but from personal experience there doesn't seem to be any particular social stigma about it, and so long as you take a hint if they ask you and take some note of how approachable they are making themselves before diving in surely there's no problem.
Maybe if you try it in a Franky t-shirt? I get no end of compliments from women when I wear OP items somehow :s
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Maybe if you try it in a Franky t-shirt? I get no end of compliments from women when I wear OP items somehow :s
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20thCenturyBoy
Thousand Master
I always think women view me in the worst possible way, due to issues I have regarding myself as well as the opposite sex, so I get the impression that I would come across like some unnatractive creep who doesn't understand his standing in society.
Also, as Ayase mentioned about being happy to get the attention I always think of this as a big difference between men and women. Men would be happy to have the attention, women less so unless it's from the type of guy they want it from. I sometimes in my mind put women down as having unnatainable double standards, like if a women dresses in a particular way to show off her attractiveness yet doesn't want certain guys noticing such things. At least that's how it always plays out in my mind, to the point were I feel guilty for even daring to look at them.
Also, as Ayase mentioned about being happy to get the attention I always think of this as a big difference between men and women. Men would be happy to have the attention, women less so unless it's from the type of guy they want it from. I sometimes in my mind put women down as having unnatainable double standards, like if a women dresses in a particular way to show off her attractiveness yet doesn't want certain guys noticing such things. At least that's how it always plays out in my mind, to the point were I feel guilty for even daring to look at them.
neptune2venus
Hunter
There's nothing wrong with approaching the opposite sex on the street as long as it is courteous.
I find society in general is vacuous and places too much emphasis on looking good. What ever happened to the good old fashioned 'Hi, how are you?' rather than 'You look hot!'
Women will also react differently to compliments. I would be extremely cynical if some random guy in the first two minutes of conversation complimented my looks. However some others would be extremely flattered.
Start a general conversation first and then go with the compliments - otherwise it will just end up being creepy.
I find society in general is vacuous and places too much emphasis on looking good. What ever happened to the good old fashioned 'Hi, how are you?' rather than 'You look hot!'
Women will also react differently to compliments. I would be extremely cynical if some random guy in the first two minutes of conversation complimented my looks. However some others would be extremely flattered.
Start a general conversation first and then go with the compliments - otherwise it will just end up being creepy.
ayase
State Alchemist
It is odd that, but I wouldn't blame women in isolation. People and society as a whole are just full of weird social norms and other assorted pointlessness. I have more confidence now than I ever did, but I still hate talking about most of the boring **** other people like to talk about, which means I still find socialising / dating largely an insufferable chore. I don't understand why people don't just talk to the people they enjoy conversing with, f*ck the people they find physically attractive and simply live in (largely vain, in my experience) hope that those things might one day collide.20thCenturyBoy said:
I think something a lot of people seem to want is to establish that the person they find physically attractive has a personality they like (or at all) before they embark on a physical relationship with them. I don't get reason why there's a need for that prerequisite myself. As Mae West (now there was a woman the kind of attitude to sex I can get on board with) once said: "Sex with love is the greatest thing in life. But sex without love - that's not so bad either."
See, there's the problem. General conversation. Inane and verging on dishonest if your real intention is to get into somebody's pants. Can't we just be honest with each other?neptune2venus said:
ilmaestro
State Alchemist
I find the comments that it's reasonable to simply start talking to random strangers both bizarre and confusing, but this could easily stem from my less than expectant view of what would happen if I was to go about things in such a way.
As for the Mae West quotation - not everyone is happy wasting money on a well marketed blend Scotch, just because it might take a little more time and effort to find somewhere serving the single malt you are looking for.
They really should put that in the catalog.Zin5ki said:
This reads like a somewhat oddly loaded comment, in fact running counter to half of your own view on the interaction you look for with people. General conversation is often used to establish common ground and interests ie. has the express purpose of finding someone your enjoy conversing with - hence not really inane, and not necessarily geared towards getting into someone's pants. At best, I would say you are allowing yourself to draw unfounded conclusions based on a small or possibly biased sample.ayase said:
As for the Mae West quotation - not everyone is happy wasting money on a well marketed blend Scotch, just because it might take a little more time and effort to find somewhere serving the single malt you are looking for.
neptune2venus
Hunter
ayase said:
This is due to that men and women think differently. I don't see male prostitutes on the street for a woman to pay up and jump on for example. This is because women are complex with their needs while men are more straight forward in comparison. Generalisation maybe but also true.
ayase said:
Talking to someone is to gauge how worthy their intent may be. When a man wants to have sex on a plate - it is very obvious. So what is wrong with men 'working' (ie. having a conversation) to fufill their own need? It works both ways. No wonder morals are going down the toilet.