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I will let Luke, my 8 year old brother, watch a 12 if I deem it suitable (like Squid Girl) and my Mum was fine with letting me watch the first X-Men film when I was around his age, but I also find that some aren't suitable (like today when my 17 year old brother asked if it would be okay for Luke to watch The Inbetweeners movie and I also wouldn't want Luke watching The Dark Knight or Strike Witches and the certificate rating stops him going out and buying those of his own accord, which I wouldn't want him doing).
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That's decisions you are taking based on your own morality for someone who you are responsible for. That's fair enough. Other people might take a different view. Hell, I don't plan on having kids but if I did I'd take the attitude that they could do what they like but would have to deal with the consequences themselves. You wanna watch a horror film? It's pretty damn scary, are you sure? Fine. Don't have nightmares. If you do you'll have no-one to blame but yourself.

I've always thought that if someone's old enough to ask a question they're old enough to have it answered truthfully and make their own decision based on that information. Other people disagree and that's fine, I wouldn't want any control over their kids' upbringing or the decisions their morality leads them to take. So why the hell does any official body think they have one up on me in terms of their morality? Things like the BBFC cater to one particular moral code - it's fine for those who agree and wouldn't want their kids watching it, but it would mean my kids couldn't go and buy things I'd be fine for them to watch. IMO "society as a whole" should stay out of each individual's business.

I certainly wouldn't want retailers bowing to moral pressures like they do in the US, as that actually starts to dictate what content is produced. I know some games companies actually tone things down to make sure their titles will be stocked in certain US retailers.
 
Well, what a weekend!

We went out for the gf's 20th on friday, predrinks and vodka jelly shots lol We had alot to drink before heading out and then someone decided it would be a safe idea to let me have my cards after the copious amounts i'd already drunk (but not drunk - i was merry) So i got out £30.

We got into liquid for free as my gf's sister is staff there and then i started buying rounds..... this is the place that i once bought a round of 18 drinks for 3 people when left to my own devices. Anyway i felt fine enough to not blow it all on rounds and proceeded to buy just me and the gf drinks, we left and got home about 4am with donner meat and chips in hand and hiccups on the way i ended up going to bed hungry as previous encounters have proven that shortly after hiccups comes throwing up.... was such a shame to leave that meat, i hadn't eaten since lunchtime.

We both woke up hanging really bad the saturday morning.

Waiting for thursday to buy the gf a 2 in one; cross trainer and exercise bike :) then taking her to the zoo as we missed out this weekend.
 
Joshawott said:
If the intention of certificate ratings was complete blanket control, how come we have a 12A certificate for cinemas, but still the 12 for home media?
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It is due to corporate greed. The film companies want to make money at the cinema and therefore lower the rating. Most cinema goers are in their teens (especially in the U.S.) so of course they will adjust their rating accordingly.

Censorship in itself is an area where there are 'shades of grey', people have different standards of morality. A mother giving their 10 year old boy Call of Duty to play in my opinion is even worse than than snatching a glimpse of a book filled with erotic stories. The onus of responsibility is ultimately down to the individual with guidelines from BBFC or in the case of none - to check the material out for themselves.
 
Oh quick mention.

Can we have a less of the knob pictures in here please? I'm all for boobs and stuff instead but i'm at work right now so the hugs knob looks too obvious lol
 
Viewing the knob is now voluntary.

When I was too young to know about such things, I have to say that in spite of my voracious consumption of books on all kinds of topics you wouldn't have been able to even force me to pick up a sleazy romance story for middle-aged women. I'd have been so bored by the first page I'd never even have got to the raunchy bits (let alone understood them), so I think there's merit in saying that the written word naturally self-censors to some extent for youngsters. The real 'danger' here is with younger teenagers, but having been there I assure you they are already reading about some pretty nasty stuff on their own without Tesco's help. And I was a rather uncool teenager at that!

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Tachi said:
Can we have a less of the knob pictures in here please?
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But however else shall a gentleman gauge his eminence than through comparison?

<img src="http://www.aandhbrass.co.uk/products/door_furniture/centre_door_knobs.jpg" width="280">

Mine's a six, for those who might enquire.
 
Morning all,

Black - how's it going? Hope alls going well with the job front and house :)

Voddas has reached the "last 2 weeks" with his mrs, anytime now the baby could be born :)

I'm fine, just waiting for my holiday to Tunisia in a few weeks and scrabbling my pockets for money as i'm waiting for thursday's payday haha.

This place will probably still last much longer than any of us will lol
 
@Mono, it's good to be back as well, and nice to see more familiar faces :)

@Tachi, well still no job, house is getting there, and funny you should mention Voddas as our little bundle of joy is still 12 weeks away :p Yup i'm going to be a father as well, and little Theo is going to be brought up in the way of anime and video games...Much to the annoyance of the in-laws ;)
 
mangaman74 said:
Welcome back Blackwolf.

BlackWolf said:
little Theo is going to be brought up in the way of anime
and video games
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Already planning on turning the little one to the dark side then?
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Thanks :)

Hah yeah, although in truth I'll be supportive of whatever choices he makes or things he likes...to a degree of course, can only let them get away with so much!
 
I do remember you saying you had your own on the way too fella, i just couldn't remember even which month we last spoke in lol

Good to hear everyones fine, from the original breakfast club there's only me and Ayase who aren't jumping on the baby bandwagon :p (i think i told you about the almost baby that happened with me and kayls, thankfully medical intervention works)

Still no job after all this time? I'm just waiting for my second meeting this week about my role here, if i can i'll command more money before accepting the post, if not then i'll aim to transfer back to luton and aim for team leader at the local trust :) (would make mileage much easier!)

Feeling the strain on money this month, with booking a holiday at last minute i sort of owe the missus a few hundreds but come thursday that'll be paid off and i've got a £120 present for her birthday just gone
 
Welcome to the club Voddass and Black Wolf. You have a lot of sleepless nights in your future! :D It is so worth it through my little one is the most beautiful thing in the world (next to my gf for course)! I am glad to see you back on the forums mate. Hi tachi by the way! Got to go work now and earn some money for the household. Anyone else a parent on this forum?
 
Hello again Devil, i did reply to you on PSN lastnight but you went offline just as i hit send lol.

I think its just you, voddas, Blackwolf and possibly McIcy (if he's even around here anymore!)

Jayme, Spyro, Lawrence and Rena (mononoke) are all younger than me with no kids and i think Mangaman is either just older than me or mid twenties (can't really remember) but in the same boat as me and Ayase i'm presuming lol.

Anyone have much chance to enjoy the great weather we are having? Highs of 27 today apparently. I'd love to be out in that topping up my tan :p
 
Tachi said:
Jayme, Spyro, Lawrence and Rena (mononoke) are all younger than me with no kids and i think Mangaman is either just older than me or mid twenties (can't really remember) but in the same boat as me and Ayase i'm presuming lol.

Anyone have much chance to enjoy the great weather we are having? Highs of 27 today apparently. I'd love to be out in that topping up my tan :p
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I'm currently single with no babies to worry over and older (a few years short of 40 :( ).
 
hey Devil, nice to see another old face :p

@Tachi, I'm sure your time will come as a responsible parent. But yeah the job front is starting to annoy me, I'm sending out applications all over the place but no one is looking to give me a chance. I was meant to get back in touch with you but then life got in the way, this year has pretty much flown by since we found out. Saying that I was emailing Spyro but he didn't reply to my last message...

Mind that I've got two pictures up for a sale in a shop around here, so if that takes off...who knows eh?
 
Nice to hear from ya Black! Stick around and prevent the thread from devolving into "Tachi's observations about life, featuring ayase attempting to beat people into submission with his strongly held opinions" :p

I'm in pretty much the same boat as you on the job front at the moment, considering more training - had a chat to the chap at the jobcentre about that today. Basically anything that I can earn a decent wage at, but where my role is no longer to pressure people into buying **** they don't really want or need. I'm done with that. Not good for the mental health.

Tachi said:
Good to hear everyones fine, from the original breakfast club there's only me and Ayase who aren't jumping on the baby bandwagon :p
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And long, LONG may that state continue... I've nothing against the small humans but I wouldn't want to be responsible for one myself. I had to stop myself from giving my true opinion when one of my cousin's children complained to me at a family gathering about her cousin not letting her brother have a go with a toy. I found myself having to promote diplomacy when my real opinion was "well you two go and twat him then, teach him that's what greed gets him". I have a friend who is a teacher and often expresses dismay at that sort of parenting (as it's kids like that who cause teachers problems) - when he does I just sort of smile internally at the thought of raising children in a decidedly anti-establishment fashion.

Tachi said:
Anyone have much chance to enjoy the great weather we are having? Highs of 27 today apparently. I'd love to be out in that topping up my tan
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It is bloody marvellous out there, but I couldn't move for tourists so I've come back into the shade. Velux windows open wide and the sea breeze blowing in... I could live with this weather for as long as it wants to stick around.
 
hahaha the thread hasn't already devolved into that Ayase? We must be pretty close to it if not already :p

I do have to look after a baby, its just not mine. Kayls mum is a foster carer and has 3 kids and 1 baby right now so we've had him from 3 days old and i've done everything bar the changing, thats one thing i can't do as i've got a gag reflex that would cover the baby is sick before i could even get the nappy off :lol:

Black forward a copy of your CV on to me and i'll proof read it, make some changes if needed and pass it back - i'm currently teaching people at work what employers are looking for and how to get through interviews so i can point you at the direction employers are mainly after.

Manga, okay so you are more than abit older than me but as they say "your only as old as you feel" - i felt like a 90 year old on saturday and aching after the gym lastnight :)

Ayase, try your hand in the NHS. No sales and your inter-person skills will be great for even a receptionist role (bottom of band 3 is roughly 15-19k annual)
 
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