Shiroi Hane
Dragon Knight
We were just discussing how it isn't available here so no, I haven't seen it.Buzz201 said:
Summer 2015 Legal Anime Streaming Thread
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Buzz201
Mad Scientist
Shiroi Hane said:
As I said, the TV version is about the most you could get away with in the UK (perhaps even a little over the line), god only knows what the home video version will be like...
It does also feature some hilariously bad bleep censoring. Of all the things they can get away with on Japanese TV, who knew they still had to bleep the f word at 1.05am?
sniper_samurai
Railgun
Yeah been some complaints to the broadcast regulator in Japan atm for Shimoneta about the lewd gestures and the bleeped words being easily guessable.Buzz201 said:
Its ridiculous how the think of the children mentality is still being applied to shows airing at 1 and 2 in the morning :roll:
Peachy
Bumpkin
There's many films passing uncut these days, take Arrow Video's release of "Nekromantik" as a prime example. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nekromantik) The content in Prison School should be absolutely fine unless age comes into question.
Buzz201
Mad Scientist
sniper_samurai said:
The first use of the p-word in Prison School was hilarious, the bleep censor was so poorly done that the word was basically completely audible anyway and they might as well have not bothered (although, I'm assuming that's deliberate)...
It's set in a high school and the lead character is 15 years old. I think the bathing scene from the first episode would probably raise a few eyebrows.Dannielle said:
Smeelia
Thousand Master
Is an interest in underage sexual activity illegal? Has anyone told Channel 4/5 (or whoever does those "teen mum" type shows these days)?ayase said:
I honestly find it incredibly sad just how out of date and meaningless our ratings/censorship system is (though that kind of goes for any of them, based on what I've seen). It's really just a bunch of people deciding things based on personal bias. I think I'd rather just have no system at all, it might sound scary to think of children walking into a shop to buy tentacle porn but at least it'd encourage us to educate children about things rather than just hide them and maybe it'd help people be a bit more open minded.
sniper_samurai
Railgun
Funny thing is Code Geass passed uncut when Kaze had to submit their version.Smeelia said:
I don't think Kaze actually submitted it. When I checked the BBFC site for Code Geass it only listed what was rated for the Beez version. I would assume it had to be re-rated if there was anything different and I bet Kaze probably released their version without realising one of the episodes was cut.sniper_samurai said:
There is of course the possibility that it was actually re-rated but not listed on the site.
Anywho let's not go off topic again folks.
Buzz201
Mad Scientist
The studio is now listed as "Other" on the Gangsta. page as well, I wonder if they've done some kind of deal with Anime Ltd. for the rights. Because it seems weird to me that AL would share streaming rights, having probably brought the show before it's run started.
But I'd love to watch the show in 1080p, so you certainly won't be catching any objections from me.
But I'd love to watch the show in 1080p, so you certainly won't be catching any objections from me.
Shiroi Hane
Dragon Knight
There was an episode of Fumoffu which used OTT bleep censoring for comedic effect. Chris Patton had great fun recording the dub for that.Buzz201 said:
Buzz201
Mad Scientist
Gangsta. on Daisuki has come from FUNimation, it has the FUNi logo at the beginning. So maybe Anime Ltd. haven't been entirely truthful with us with their reaction to Jerome M's comments. Interesting that Daisuki hasn't mentioned it on Facebook though, so maybe it's a mistake and it's not supposed to be up in the UK.
There's a joke later on that plays on the fact censorship often makes things look dirtier than they actually are, probably can't explain the joke any more than that though...
I don't know, as the descriptions have all been vague, but I think it's the same word Shimoneta got into trouble for not censoring enough. so I'm guessing they have to censor it, but are deliberately doing the poorest job they can get away with (or in Shimoneta's case can't). A later episode dipped the f word, instead of bleeping it. So it's possible they've been asked to play it more safely, but it was still clearly distinguishable.Shiroi Hane said:
There's a joke later on that plays on the fact censorship often makes things look dirtier than they actually are, probably can't explain the joke any more than that though...
I haven't seen either show as there's no stream here but from what I assumed Shimoneta used a vulgar Japanese word whereas Prison School used an English one, which has lost some of its impact due to constant widespread use. Or am I wrong? Anyway, if people want to continue the censorship debate this post is a formal confirmation that a dedicated topic would be better, so please start one and I'll merge stuff into it when I have time.
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With regards to the FUNi/AL situation, I'd personally be satisfied if AL is getting non-exclusive rights for their streaming or managing a wider rollout of FUNi's UK services as this gives us more choice as viewers. I'm reasonably happy with the Viewster streams (though I'm going to strangle the makers of those irritating fashion/beauty ads soon) and Daisuki's player is a bit unreliable for me, so I'm staying put. However, it makes sense to get everything on as many legal platforms as possible; anything else is sacrificing accessibility in order to profit from selling exclusivity rights to streaming companies, which is a bit shady at best. Let the best streaming services earn our loyalty by delivering the shows the way we want them, and compete to spread the word far and wide.
R
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With regards to the FUNi/AL situation, I'd personally be satisfied if AL is getting non-exclusive rights for their streaming or managing a wider rollout of FUNi's UK services as this gives us more choice as viewers. I'm reasonably happy with the Viewster streams (though I'm going to strangle the makers of those irritating fashion/beauty ads soon) and Daisuki's player is a bit unreliable for me, so I'm staying put. However, it makes sense to get everything on as many legal platforms as possible; anything else is sacrificing accessibility in order to profit from selling exclusivity rights to streaming companies, which is a bit shady at best. Let the best streaming services earn our loyalty by delivering the shows the way we want them, and compete to spread the word far and wide.
R
Buzz201
Mad Scientist
Rui said:
I don't object to it, but it seems weird that FUNimation would bother using a middle man, when they have their own connections at Viewster and Daisuki? Surely by using the middle man, they're making less profit, but then the streaming rights probably came as a pack with home video rights.
Also, what's in this for Daisuki? People can barely put with their service as it is, why would they watch a 6 week delaycast on it?
Buzz201 said:
I can confirm that Aquarion Logos also has the Funimation logo at the beginning. The series is currently at Episode 5.
Since we're mentioning Daisuki, these Funimation titles have appeared on their service:
- Aquarion Logos
- Bikini Warriors [Not available in UK]
- Black Butler: Book of Circus ~ from Aniplex themselves
- The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan [Not available in UK] ~ from Kadokawa?
- Gangsta.
- Hetalia: The World Twinkle
Honestly I'm not fussed about Daisuki adding more titles. They're all available in 1080p and I've had no problems with their player on my end. Heck having more availability for one show is better than keeping it on one site.
sniper_samurai
Railgun
I'd say its also likely that Crunchy cant be bothered getting UK only rights for English language stuff.Buzz201 said:
IIRC Andrew said that they never approached them for UK streaming on their licences. Funny seeing as they don't seem to have any problem with streaming AL France titles into the French territories.
Buzz201
Mad Scientist
Although they have only done French and Spanish subtitles, looking at the regions they've got, English might not have done too badly in other countries. Bearing in mind, English is a big second language in most of the world.sniper_samurai said:
AL has probably never been approached because UK & Ireland rights probably aren't worth it on their own, but I believe French-language rights generally cover most, if not all, of the French-speaking world. So it's probably likely to be more worthy of the time and engineering required.
By the time AL started buying up large swathes of Europe (AL has Seraph of the End in English-, French- and German-speaking Europe, Scandinavia and Benelux), they already have a relationship with Viewster, so it's probably too late now.
Viewster's Omakase service is now (in beta testing stages) working on the UK end. You can sign up to the service here
There are some rules to this however - Once you sign up, you'll need to referral your own link and have 20 people sign up through it to fully complete the task. It'll be a long trip but I'm sure we'll all make it.
There are some rules to this however - Once you sign up, you'll need to referral your own link and have 20 people sign up through it to fully complete the task. It'll be a long trip but I'm sure we'll all make it.