ConanThe3rd
Railgun
Ah, that'd explain it.
20thCenturyBoy said:Only God Forgives
3/10
Did you love Drive? Want more of the same only not as good? Well, here you go.
I think Winding Refn is a great director and Gosling a great actor, but the two are beginning to typecast themselves horribly. It's an incredibly self indulgent piece with no real point to it. Julian and his family are all absolute phsychopaths, there is not a single redeeming feature about him as a main character, and it's questionable if he even his. I would go as far as to say that the Chang (main police detective) is the "protaganist" of this film because you at least know what he is doing and why. He dishes out justice, which while it may be extreme, is still only being served against those who have done wrong. He doesn't attack random strangers or shout at/humiliate prostitutes in the middle of the street like some others do.
It looks gorgeous but often there's absolutely nothing else going on beyond that. The best scenes by far were the karaoke scenes. I actually stayed and watched the full song as the credits started because I realised it was my favourite moment of the movie. I might just make that song my ringtone.
Ark said:I think your criticism is slightly misplaced. You could argue that Winding Refn's use of Gosling was an attempt to capitalise on the success of Drive
20thCenturyBoy said:Exactly. But he shouldn't have done that. In casting the same actor in a similar role (silent, brooding, violent man of mystery) you're immediately brining comparisons onto yourself. I think Drive created a fantastic sense of atmosphere and mood through the sounds and visuals too, fact is for me that it simply done it a lot better than this did. I did say that Refn is a good director and things look great and that the karaoke scenes were my favourite. Drive was very much an art house film, though with a slightly more mainstream appeal to it. Refn seems to be very attached to the idea of the central character being silent, psychopaths whom we know very little about, as I said I think he's getting dangerously close to pigeon-holing himself, I'd like to see him try something a bit different. I understand that with this he's said he was wanting something more abstract, but I just felt that it was very much lacking a sense of purpose because of that, Drive at least had the framework of the book from which Refn could work with.
The "Popcorn Movie" excuse is laaaaaame and it's one I've heard so many people say when I voice my criticisms of the movie. Regardless of the tone or intention, you can't just make your own pseudo-scientific laws and just blatantly ignore them. It's lazy. I'm not saying I wanted it to have Evangelion-level depth, I just at least would have liked it to keep to the laws it itself set.Sy said:Pacific Rim is a tribute to the old Japanese monster movies which is something I grew up on. I loved it because it took me back to my childhood and I got to see giant robots punching the hell out of monsters in classic good vs evil style. Cliche? Yeah, but it was never trying to be too deep. Personally I felt the characters served the story well enough but in all honesty that's not why I bought a ticket.