Evangelion 3.33 You (Cannot) Have It
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Lutga
Mad Scientist
Gavrev said:
In the early days Manga cancelled Blu Ray releases all the time (didn't they do it for Haruhi and part two of Cashern Sins too?) If you go back on Amazon and sort by release date you can see all the ones that never came out - I imagine due to projected poor uptake. Obviously the Blu Ray market is much bigger now so Blu Ray releases are a no brainer.
Wasn't there a question about 5cm/sec being picked up by All The Anime as the license was near lapsing and they wanted it for their Makoto collection?
Lutga said:
That's correct they pretty much gave up on Blu-ray years back, as far as I know these were the victims:
- 5 Centimeters Per Second - Blu-ray was planned but the Japanese licensor has withhold a Blu-ray version across the English territories, my theory is that it's due to the Global Edition which contains both English dub and subtitles.
- Casshern Sins - Stopped after just releasing Part 1 (they cancelled Part 2 when Part 1 was just coming out, apparently the sales weren't there).
- Darker than Black: Gemini of the Meteor - Planned and was available for pre-order, just never released.
- Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood - Stopped after releasing Part 2 due to lack of sales, fan demand brought back the rest of the sets years later.
- K-On! Season 1 - Stopped because of the lack of sales for DVD parts when ironically everyone was waiting for the Blu-ray version (they stated it while releasing the parts that it will be on Blu-ray). Too much cost and risks forced it's cancellation.
- Karas - Planned and was available for pre-order, just never released.
- The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya - Stopped because the Blu-ray disc couldn't work on PlayStation 3 players when ironically the Australian version does. Too much cost as a result of it's cancellation.
- Xam'd: Lost Memories - Same situation as Casshern Sins.
Andrew is working on a way to bring 5 cm/s into the Shinkai collection but AFAIK right now he's trying to sort out the rights to the English dub for Place Promised in our Early Days and Voices of a Distant Star. He's also working on adding Children Who Chase Lost Voices (assuming he doesn't use the Kaze version).
The San Diego Comic-Con is scheduled for 24-27 July. If any announcement regarding the release of Evangelion 3.33 is forthcoming, I'd be willing to ring Ladbrokes and bet on it happening there. Funimation knows that they're sitting with a high profile, highly anticipated release. Plus, Comic-Con carries more prestige and spectacle, and attracts a greater audience than Anime Expo, so it would make sense to make an announcement there.
And while I'm gazing into the crystal ball, I'm guessing that Viz will also be formally announcing the release date for the final volume of the Neon Genesis Evangelion manga.
All the while I'm hoping I am right.
And while I'm gazing into the crystal ball, I'm guessing that Viz will also be formally announcing the release date for the final volume of the Neon Genesis Evangelion manga.
All the while I'm hoping I am right.
Yakumo said:
Isn't the final volume getting a worldwide release this November?
Either way, I'm waiting for the 2-in-1 edition that holds Volume 13 & 14 to match the first 4 3-in-1 sets.
Shiroi Hane
Dragon Knight
For 5cm/s the BD and DVD were announced together and both were delayed a couple of times. Manga said it was due to problems with the BD and I suggested releasing the DVD now and the BD later but they didn't want to do that as stores don't like taking two SKUs. Eventually they had to do that anyway and the BD was "delayed indefinitely" because of holdbacks. The Japanese at the time was was years old (it was released on HD-DVD too!), however they then announced a re-release including multiple languages....Gavrev said:
The Karas BD was initially something of a coup because it was announced before it had even been released on that format even in Japan and would have been one of Manga's first BDs. They clarified recently that the reason for the cancellation is that the HD masters come with the 6 individual episodes while the English materials are timed for the two "movies" and it was just too expensive for Manga UK to sort it out. I suspect the license may have expired now anyway as it was pulled from iTunes recently.
It's been established that the delay was because of issues with the dub. It is now further established that the dub is not yet complete. The source credited is no less than Spike Spencer himself.
At this rate it looks like they are pushing for a Comic-Con announcement. As one of the 50 or so remaining fans worldwide not yet to have seen 3.33 - and one of maybe 2 to have done so voluntarily - I live in constant hope.
At this rate it looks like they are pushing for a Comic-Con announcement. As one of the 50 or so remaining fans worldwide not yet to have seen 3.33 - and one of maybe 2 to have done so voluntarily - I live in constant hope.
mangaman74
Akatsuki
I have yet to see it (not seen 2.22 yet either) since I would rather wait for all the films to be available to watch together than one every so many years.Gavrev said:
Gavrev
Dandy Guy, in Space
On the subject of rips and such matters, it's an irony really when you think about it. The corporate world doesn't want you to rip them off and yet I tend towards believing that something as simple as distribution and rights wouldn't be half a complicated or frustrating if they hadn't introduced the damned region system into home media. The only reason it was done in the first place (as far as I know, or can reason) is to control the media market release. They didn't have to, but they chose to implement it and thus the market for multi-region players and internet torrent sharing was born (the former of which I believe is a legitimate thing). Admittedly torrents largel float on the belief of something for nothing, which I don't believe in as an artist myself, particularly now that the market has been brought to bear on DVD's and CD's to the point that you can now purchase them in-store for a more reasonable average price of £5-£7, with some patience, or £3-£6 online. Nevertheless, you can't deny that when the medium of anime drags it's heels with it's traditional east/west delay, compounded by matters such we have experienced with Evangelion 3.33, that people get rightly frustrated. I know with anime it's affected by said films doing the cinema circuit before a release is granted, but that wouldn't be so bad if there were more opportunities to see anime at the cinema here in the UK, and compared to the bloated western film market which frequently seems to have more showings for a blockbuster in one screen alone than there seems to be local people to fill the cinema seats, that this too brews a valid frustration in itself. It's well understood that anime is a niche market, but it's popularity in the west shouldn't be underestimated now, particularly when you have the likes of Crunchyroll to deliver material to waiting fans. You could again argue that streaming if the way forwards, particularly when The eastern buying market seems to favour streaming over collecting (which is why anime discs cost a small fortune) but as far as the west is concerned, where we do seem to have more interest in collecting discs, the DVD/BR market simply needs to reform and catch up. One way they could do this is to review the principle of region coding.
Lutga
Mad Scientist
Streaming and online distribution are the way forward. It's cheaper/saves shelf space/and is quicker - and will only get quicker as the market gets bigger and internet connections get faster.
The physical market is already absolutely miniscule for anime. The numbers are shockingly low. It's a niche market, yes, but already it feels like it's largely sustained only by those die-hard collectors that'll buy anything.
The physical market is already absolutely miniscule for anime. The numbers are shockingly low. It's a niche market, yes, but already it feels like it's largely sustained only by those die-hard collectors that'll buy anything.
Gavrev
Dandy Guy, in Space
Lutga said:
All too true Lutga.. It's true that streaming is a cool thing but it's nice to have a hard copy of those things we like. Call me old fashioned (and I think you can now I'm in my 40's) but it would be a shame to lose your favourite anime shows if say Crunchyroll, or any such provider, were to fold
The release date of Eva 3.33 is certainly taken on a certain Holy Grail quality. Ask about it on Funimation's Facebook page, and you're pretty much assured to be chided by what I'm sure must be two Funimation's sockpuppets, Floyd Mungaray and Kitty Sparkes.
The latest one however actually calls them out on their explanation that they are working with Studio Khara:
More surprisingly is the fact that Funimation replied to the question:
Make of that what you will.
The latest one however actually calls them out on their explanation that they are working with Studio Khara:
More surprisingly is the fact that Funimation replied to the question:
Make of that what you will.
So basically Anno wanted to get involved with the dub at the last minute? Wow. I guess he's making sure the film's English dub will connect with the fourth film and avoid any plot holes or side effects.
Gavrev
Dandy Guy, in Space
If this is the case then all power to Hideaki Anno, and I hope it does meet with his creative standards! Plus, looking at it in a Buddhist light, we're not that far off Evangelion 4 now that the third instalment has been so delayed. Still it's been a bloody long haul from the release of 2.22 - over three years.. Let's just get to the release date and celebrate.