Do you support gay marriage?

[Rui]

No one is truly happy being married and plus its friggin expensive to have a wedding.

Er the former is a matter of opinion and the latter not necessarily true. Lots of people feel obliged to go crazy but the marriage itself isn't the expensive thing, it's the reception and all the bells and whistles people often buy which adds up!

I understand why you don't like marriage, just want you to know that not everyone has the same fears and suspicions

R

 

[harkins]

I’m a bit of a marriage sceptic as I’ve known a few people (inc me) whose seemingly long and strong relationships have gone wrong. But I also have a good friend who is possibly the most happily married person on the planet! Mind you, I always describe him as ‘under the thumb and over the moon’.

But back on topic, I don’t see why homosexuals shouldn’t be entitled to the same pleasures and nightmares that marriage offers to heterosexuals.

 

[McIcy]

No one is truly happy being married and plus its friggin expensive to have a wedding.

Er the former is a matter of opinion and the latter not necessarily true. Lots of people feel obliged to go crazy but the marriage itself isn't the expensive thing, it's the reception and all the bells and whistles people often buy which adds up!

I understand why you don't like marriage, just want you to know that not everyone has the same fears and suspicions

R

Trust me we are trying the small wedding, but even then church wants £900 and thats only for a 2 hour slot, luckily the dresses and suits aren't gonna cost as much, but the church certainly takes there pound of flesh so to speak.

 

[melonpan]

No one is truly happy being married and plus its friggin expensive to have a wedding.

Er the former is a matter of opinion and the latter not necessarily true. Lots of people feel obliged to go crazy but the marriage itself isn't the expensive thing, it's the reception and all the bells and whistles people often buy which adds up!

I understand why you don't like marriage, just want you to know that not everyone has the same fears and suspicions

R

Trust me we are trying the small wedding, but even then church wants £900 and thats only for a 2 hour slot, luckily the dresses and suits aren't gonna cost as much, but the church certainly takes there pound of flesh so to speak.

Religion pays.

That's a lot of £900's over the course of a year, and only in one church say... plus all the funerals. I'm really not sure it ALL goes on church repairs/societies/whatever. Where's this money really going?

 

[Rui]

Trust me we are trying the small wedding, but even then church wants £900 and thats only for a 2 hour slot, luckily the dresses and suits aren't gonna cost as much, but the church certainly takes there pound of flesh so to speak.

Mine's £170 for the actual registrar and £300 for the venue. Everything else on top and a reception if you have one adds up, but the minimum for a wedding (and we could have had a cheaper venue or done it in the registry office no doubt) is pretty low. Everyone just gets caught up in the extras, and it sounds like the churches get well paid too

R

 

[CitizenGeek]

That's a lot of £900's over the course of a year, and only in one church say... plus all the funerals. I'm really not sure it ALL goes on church repairs/societies/whatever. Where's this money really going?

Why, it's going to the fight against the insidious "gay agenda". They seek acceptance, tolerance and freedom to live a happy life - despicable, huh? ;]

I really like this small article on the so-called homosexual agenda. It's well written, clever and thought-provoking!

 

[chaos]

I really like this small article on the so-called homosexual agenda. It's well written, clever and thought-provoking!

Scary stuff.. Reminds me of this.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protoc ... rs_of_Zion

Also, if any of you have the chance, get the plot from Will Eisner. Brilliant comics by a great master!

 

[Churchy99]

Yes! both types of relationships should be treated with the same respect. And I think gay marriages are fine but as said before I myself have never really seen the point in marriage but everyone else is welcome to it!

 

[CitizenGeek]

So gay marriage is legal in California from the 16th of this month!

California already had a form of civil unions in place, but the judges at the supreme court ruled that it was unequal and that marriage is a fundamental right for gay couples. So, what of the idea of civil partnerships. Is it just to allow for a form of legal recognition for gay couples and not call it marriage? Is that word even important?

Discuss!

(btw: I really like your attitudes, RetroRainbow and Churchy99 :])

 

[Ramadahl]

Hmm, I figure it should be up to the person performing the marriage. If they're fine with it, cool. If not, the couple can find someone else. I don't have a problem with gay marriage, but it seems a little... uh, selfish, maybe? ... to expect others to accept it. Not sure on the adjective there...

 

[Yagami]

I'm kind of balanced.

In one way, I feel that if two men were in love, then don't they have the right to get married? Its quite cruel saying to two heterosexual's that they can't get married, because the priest, or whatever, doesn't feel right about it.

But then again, it is quite cruel to make the priest, who isn't particularly fond with gays, due to his religion, do a gay marriage.

 

[skikes]

who cares! if 2 consenting adults want to get married let them. its not for me personnally i dont see the need... however there is afew points ide like to make:

people say marriage is a religous thing and thats why the gays have civil partnerships... but lots of people who get married have no religous preference or belief.

every1 says civil unions and marraiges are the same so why argue the point... i think if history has taught us thing "equal but DIFFERENT" doesnt work.

end of rant... because at the end of the day 1 persons opinions doesnt change things

 

[Rui]

I'm kind of balanced.

In one way, I feel that if two men were in love, then don't they have the right to get married? Its quite cruel saying to two heterosexual's that they can't get married, because the priest, or whatever, doesn't feel right about it.

But then again, it is quite cruel to make the priest, who isn't particularly fond with gays, due to his religion, do a gay marriage.

Interesting point. If a person went to get married but because their partner was brunette, or asian, they were told they couldn't due to the prejudices of the registrar, wouldn't that be a problem?

I know you're not saying that would be right, but your post made me think that if the registrar was given too much power it would be considered abuse of their lawful position; why is homosexuality/religion special?

I think civil homosexual and heterosexual weddings should be exactly equal and religious ones can stay in their little elite club for those who wish to have them. Which I'll stay well away from even as a heterosexual.

R

 

[Liquid Skin]

I'm kind of balanced.

In one way, I feel that if two men were in love, then don't they have the right to get married? Its quite cruel saying to two heterosexual's that they can't get married, because the priest, or whatever, doesn't feel right about it.

But then again, it is quite cruel to make the priest, who isn't particularly fond with gays, due to his religion, do a gay marriage.

Very good point. I mean tolerance goes both ways and it is a trifle silly to go into a Catholic Church and expect the priest to "marry you before the eyes of God". I suppose that would make the priest the equivalent of an accessory to murder or something hehe. :lol:

I dont buy into that blabber of it "defiling the sanctity of marriage" and that "future generations will be corrupted" and blah blah blah but i do think you should respect the laws of whoever you want to marry you. Its not religion encroaching on society for a change; its society encroaching on relgion.

I'm all for gay marriages but when homosexuality is considered a sin in the religion of your choice....well its a bit silly trying to get it recognised by the religious leader. Find a different sect or religion which will accept your choice. However i do find that there is some favouritism being displayed towards heterosexual partnerships in that i bet a priest wouldnt bat an eyelid in marrying a murderer, thief, adulterer etc so long as they were marrying someone of the opposite sex....

So long as a homosexual partnership is entirely equal with a heterosexual partnership in terms of rights, benefits, etc etc i've got no problem whatsoever with homosexual marriage.

 

[chaos]

I'm kind of balanced.

In one way, I feel that if two men were in love, then don't they have the right to get married? Its quite cruel saying to two heterosexual's that they can't get married, because the priest, or whatever, doesn't feel right about it.

But then again, it is quite cruel to make the priest, who isn't particularly fond with gays, due to his religion, do a gay marriage.

Interesting point. If a person went to get married but because their partner was brunette, or asian, they were told they couldn't due to the prejudices of the registrar, wouldn't that be a problem?

I know you're not saying that would be right, but your post made me think that if the registrar was given too much power it would be considered abuse of their lawful position; why is homosexuality/religion special?

I think civil homosexual and heterosexual weddings should be exactly equal and religious ones can stay in their little elite club for those who wish to have them. Which I'll stay well away from even as a heterosexual.

R

I agree with Rui. It never said they would force a priest to marry the gay couple....
It's marriage in the legal sense of it, as in they have rights that single people don't have, for instance, in many countries (don't know about US) you can only adopt if you're married. In some countries, if the partner dies, the spouse still receives a small part of the pension and so on...

Anyway, if a certain religion don't tolerate gay people, I really can't see the point of a gay couple to keep their faith...

 

[kupocake]

But then again, it is quite cruel to make the priest, who isn't particularly fond with gays, due to his religion, do a gay marriage.

What a strange thing to say... It's gay marriage as a state institution. Even if legalised by the state, it's up to religions and religious denominations to interpret their texts and say whether they'll allow the Gay marriage of people in their congregation.

 

[CitizenGeek]

I think it's unfair that churches are allowed to get away with banning their clergy from carrying out same sex marriages. If a priest or vicar refused to perform an interracial marriage, or an all-black marriage, and cited some obscure 2000-year old verse would that be allowed? I don't think so. But yet it's a-okay to deny gay couples the right to get married in a church and everyone agrees that's how it should be. It doesn't strike me as being particularly fair or consistent.

Recently, a woman recently sued for the right not to perform gay unions, but was later punished for failing to carry out her duties as a registrar and marry a gay couple. Thoughts?

 

[Rui]

Recently, a woman recently sued for the right not to perform gay unions, but was later punished for failing to carry out her duties as a registrar and marry a gay couple. Thoughts?

That goodness they saw sense. Or tomorrow at work I'd start refusing to pay suppliers with names I didn't like the sound of due to my deity the Invisible Pink Unicorn or something. She should do her job in accordance with the law or find a new job that doesn't offend her delicate sensibilities :s

R

 

[chaos]

I think it's unfair that churches are allowed to get away with banning their clergy from carrying out same sex marriages.

Most religions are not fond of homosexuals. I can't understand someone wanting to marry in a place can't / won't accept them.

I don't see religion and politics mixing together nicely. It always have a nasty after taste... Better use Neil Gaiman apporach. Stop worshiping the gods and let them die.

On the registrar issue, I believe it was carried nicely. She can't let her biased opinion interfere with her job, specially when what was asked is legal and moral.

 

[Liquid Skin]

I don't see religion and politics mixing together nicely. It always have a nasty after taste... Better use Neil Gaiman apporach. Stop worshiping the gods and let them die.

I'm praying that Pratchett's Death comes to collect my soul when i die. I'd love to have a curry with him.