Once again Outlaw, no offence taken. We can both be pretty harsh debaters but I know neither of us really has anything against the other personally. We have different beliefs and I'm sure they're the product of different lives and experiences. Me?
I've grown so disillusioned with humanity, that while I'd really like us to have open, honest, fair government and an informed populace who take responsibility for themselves everything I've seen of human nature tells me this will never be possible. Humans are flawed. They are selfish. They are gullible. They are idiots. A
Its funny because there are many places in the world where humans do just that, humans may be flawed and selfish, but we are also kind and loving , we are also passionate and perhaps most importantly creators, we have a gift that is priceless, we have been gifted this life and in my humble opionion I dont want to waste one second of it not pursuing my passions.
And nothing will ever change that, which makes any dreams of utopia, yours or mine, just that. Dreams. So convinced am I of humanity's detestable nature, frankly if 90% of the population were gassed and shovelled into ovens tomorrow, I wouldn't particularly care. I don't think I'd care that much if I was among them.
It saddens me to hear anyone say that, such callous disregard for your fellow humans, your fellow sentient brothers who have loved and lived just as you have, who are all on the same boat as you, Im not saying we should have some kind of hippyish love for everyone no matter what and I accept you feel that way of course, but to judge a book by its cover can be a mistake as you know.
I don't wish to come across all emo here, but if I lift my idealist mask for a second there's a nihilist under here who likes to tell it like it is. There is no purpose to existence.
Of course theres a purpose to existence, and even if you dont believe that, what your gonna let that stop you from making your own purposes?
There is no right or wrong.
Maybe not objectively, but there certainly is pain and love, I know which Id prefer along with 99 percent of humanity.
We all belong to the void, and eventually so too does this planet and this universe. Does what happens between now and the end of time matter?
We dont beling to the void, we belong to a vast network of extraordinary galaxies, stars and planets, and likely are just one of many millions of civilizations out there, we have a natural instinct to explore, to discover, to create, these are not things you have to teach, instead of trying to be good which as you say is objective when taken at least out of a eligious context, let us not bring pain to others, I hate to quote the bible but to do unto others as you would do yourself is a philosophy worth a thousand words.
Is humanity worth saving, be it from global warming or from totalitarian hell? Some people (yourself included, I expect) say yes, people are worth saving. Give them a chance, humanity can be improved. I used to think like that once. No longer. My idealism is still there, but now it only burns like a pilot light to keep me sane - the gas which fuelled it long ago ran out.