Beez Entertainment Discussion

Gawyn said:
As mentioned elsewhere it might be better to post on BEEZ own boards (they have a fully functioning English site now, you know ;)) or e-mail them. If Andrew (or Tony [MVM] or Hugh [ADV] or any others for that matter) answered questions on forums they would undoubtedly get swamped by questions by fans hungry for inside knowledge. The best policy really is to answer none since that is the fairest way; answer a few and you will annoy many; answer many and it impacts your job. Just be glad that the likes of Andrew are (potentially) reading your comments, taking notes and attempting to better their respective companies' efforts to bring you what you want.

It's nice to see another side to things. I created this thread only to make open discussion with representitives, so people can see what's going on. I guess the secret e-mail way will have to be the only way though, and even doing that won't enable a discussion about why this and that can't be possible. UK anime fans are in the dark about many things, more than other countries. I know the US fanbase is massive in proportion to us, and I know US anime distributors are much bigger, but it all boils down to having interaction with fans. It's not like we're asking them to be here 24/7 answering questions. I didn't post this on the Beez forums because they're tiny in comparison to AnimeUKNews, and many less people will read them, maybe I'll get an answer there but nowhere near as many people will know that it's even there.

The best possible solution I thought of while writing this, was to create a sticky for each UK distributor, at the top of the page, where people can ask questions and the representitives can reply.. like the stick where people ask Chris questions about Japan. That works perfectly.
Just a note about the "come one come all" kind of idea, where if one person asks something, everyone will. I don't believe that to be the case, and the proof of that is the fact that no one has posted a single question to Revelation in these forums - as far as I am aware - even though Revelation have posted an advert, a thank you, and an answer to a question. That has caused no problems what-so-ever. So I stand by my argument that we should have more communication with distributors.
 
Hello!

I must have a complete blind-streak just now as I went straight to introducing myself and somehow missed this post altogether! Am so sorry - as you can see I'm posting on my Saturday here - working from home = bad everyone!

Starting off with DanIMe-sama's post and working my way along (be ready for quite a few replies!):

DaNiMe-sama said:
Well, I've seen a new member called beez_andrew recently browsing the forums, and it would be really nice to have some real contact with a representitive from a distributor because that seldom happens on any UK forums I've seen.

To my knowledge I'm the first person who actually runs the marketing and PR for any of the anime companies in the UK to throw themselves into the lions den so to speak on more than a one-off basis! None of us have _much_ time in our days so as you can see I'm doing this in my out of hours stuff! It's a nice to be here though as you it's you guys who keep everything ticking really!

DaNiMe-sama said:
So, basically, I'm wondering quite a few things really, I know I could talk about lots of anime series, but I want to focus on FLCL, because it isn't tied to a specific US distributor, i.e. it doesn't go directly to any UK distributor.
Firstly; is this even a possibility for being released in the UK?

All I can say on the FLCL front is that it's a fantastic title really - one I have a lot of respect for and would love to see in the UK!

Given the nature of the UK market it only has room for titles coming over that are over 2 years old and not released in the UK before for one of two reasons:

i) It's an incredibly good title that has been overlooked by a whole fanbase in the UK that hasn't imported it, or people would have incentive to buy again (like access to remastered copies or such).

ii) It's a title that has retro value and people fondly remember from their childhoods.

FLCL I would say fits into category (i) pretty neatly! However since it is a title that isn't tied to any one company in the UK with a US counterpart - that makes it trickier.

Whilst I can safely say it isn't on Beez's lists just now - that is definitely not to say that it's ruled out for UK release as there are a fistful of companies in the UK (three to mind) who have a broader remit for where titles they are likely to take from. So I would cross your fingers on that one guys, I know I'd love to see it in the UK personally!

DaNiMe-sama said:
Secondly; with the recent announcement of AnimeCentral, and it showing a lot of Beez' shows, how possible would it be to get FLCL on TV. Not just on AnimeCentral though, I mean a terrestrial channel. I wonder about FLCL because it seems to be accessible to lots of different types of people as it includes popular culture (albeit Japanese most of the time), vivid animation that would capture anyones attention.. and music that is popular in the demographic that FLCL targets.

That's a pretty deep question really actually - from experience on this topic (there have been murmurs about some titles going terrestrial wise before that never really got past initial talks) I would say very difficult. This is mostly because soon there will be no such thing as terrestrial TV anymore, I believe there's a cut off date lined up when everything switches to digital - so soon every channel is digital.

Rephrasing the question to how possible it is to get it onto one of the big name channels is similar - even if you hold in your hands a good deal of AAA titles per se, your odds are difficult as channels like the BBC have a certain commitment to types of shows it wants and how many are produced in the UK. This means the kind of animation desired is either shorts or stand alone features like Belleville Rendez-vous (off top of my head) or childrens animation. Both of which most anime series don't fit under sadly (try telling channels that Panda-Z's battery-eating episode is safe for children to watch nowadays for example, it's not something I can ever do with a completely straight face!).

What I would say though is channels like AnimeCentral and the Anime Network block on Propeller TV though are carving the way for the big people like SKY to take interest and start thinking "Hey, this anime lark is pretty interesting - maybe we should find a way to incorporate it into one of our channels...". Now _that's_ when the answer goes from "very difficult" to a better answer I would hope:).

So the short answer just now is it's about as easy as persuading anyone that £20 is a viable selling price for a DVD ;).

DaNiMe-sama said:
Lastly, and this is a totally different topic. With Bandai Ent starting to release manga in the US (Eureka Seven, Witchblade, etc), how possible is it for Beez to go into releasing manga? There are a lot of manga titles out there that are currently not planned for a UK release, and probably never will be. Not only that, with the recent surge of announcements of 'light novels', it can be assumed that they are becoming very popular, and of course, the whole Japanese book interest in France, and the rest of Europe is quite massive, with the French market often releasing titles before, or even without a US release. (Probably having a better release in some cases, with the edits made in US releases). I know this is kind of a futile question, but anything is possible.

In theory - it's a feasible idea and you would think it would be easy wouldn't you? There's no region locks or encoding issues there - it's surely a matter of taking the printed copies and shipping them over after getting the rights?

I actually have evaluated how feasible this has been for a while now - since I started the job over two years back now. The fact we see manga now in bookshops and even magazine shops in airports now is an amazing feat. Almost solely thanks to the amazing work that people like Dennis at Tokyopop has put in to make it viable in the UK - with people like Tanoshimi and Gollancz not to mention Simon and Schuster joining the fray after.

This means it would be incredibly difficult to join that market now without a really solid set of releases behind you and a lot of other factors needing to be taken into account. So right now it's still at a stage where we re-examine the concept periodically as well as our options.

It's also a culture question really, in France it's perfectly acceptable to be an adult who loves to read comic books still - for example the massive Virgin on the Champs-Elysées has a whole large section devoted to comics and manga! So there has been a manga industry there longer - meaning they pick series up very quickly and start translating and releasing quicker because they have a market there who will buy each volume quickly! An example being Samurai Deeper Kyo (a guilty pleasure of mine), in France they're finished translating it and releasing it! In the US they're up to Volume 22, with the UK just releasing them playing catch up.

Give it some time and if the UK market continues to grow then the UK may start seeing a similar trend in manga, though cost wise I would imagine it is a similar problem to DVDs!

DaNiMe-sama said:
On the Haruhi note, I know the anime release for Haruhi seems to be quite a bother with all the different involvements of different US companies, so how possible would it be to release the extremely popular Haruhi light novels? I'm sure novels are cheaper to license than anime (although translation costs would be high).

Haruhi light novels are a seperate story again! Theoretically it depends on what the license holder feels, how much of a market there is for them and the translation costs. Translation isn't the issue so much as the cost of the license vs demand not being matched really sadly. So you'd more often than not make back the costs as light novels are not really easily sell-able to anyone who isn't a fan of the series given very often the quality of the light novels.

So the answer is - possible theoretically but not very likely for now really sadly :(.

I hope those answer your questions - I'm really sorry for having taken so long!
 
Sakimori said:
CitizenGeek said:
Good idea, DaNiMe! I'd love for the whole Haruhi thing to be sorted out. Considering it's such a popular series and all, I really can't see why a big effort shouldn't be made to bring that series over here! ^_^

FLCL would be nice too, but I'm pretty sure Beez only deal with Bandai's properties.

In that case why haven't we seen Outlaw Star on DVD yet even though it's shown on TV twice :?

That one was before my day - but it was a but of a complicated one - the deal for the TV deals were separate to DVD licenses as at the time the whole market was in its infancy.

It's a title that probably fits in category (i) as I discussed so I'll have a look into that actually again for you :).
 
Nyu said:
If there is someone from Beez reading the forum then i have this to say. Hurry up and license Tokyo Tribes 2 already!

Tokyo Tribes 2 is undergoing a test run in France just now, as different as the markets are if it does well enough on TV in France and on DVD then we'll definitely look at acquiring the rights for the UK too as to my knowledge they are up for grabs still!
 
beez_andrew said:
Nyu said:
If there is someone from Beez reading the forum then i have this to say. Hurry up and license Tokyo Tribes 2 already!

Tokyo Tribes 2 is undergoing a test run in France just now, as different as the markets are if it does well enough on TV in France and on DVD then we'll definitely look at acquiring the rights for the UK too as to my knowledge they are up for grabs still!

Good Stuff. I could see it doing well here if it gets a good dub, mind you the sub wasn't that bad.
 
Fellistowe said:
heh, out of all the distro's I think Andrew's the most likely you'll get to post here :) (although you have had Rev Films on haven't you?)

Bear in mind thought that most of them really are up to their necks on workload (the UK distro's really are very small operations) so very often can't spare the time to browse different forums; still, I think it'd be nice if they were able to pop on and post important comments every so often though :)

Thanks for the vote of confidence there :D! All of us are relatively small operations but I don't think it's fair to neglect forums as a result it has to be said! So I'll be on weekly at least to answer things at the least and read the forums!

Fellistowe said:
hmm, OK, from what I know about bits and bobs, last I spoke to Andrew Beez were looking at Haruhi but it's a really expensive licence, not only is it a big up front cost it also has a condition of monthly guaranteed returns attached. Since the Haruhi fanbase is still very small in the UK it's pretty much priced her out of the market for the moment :(

That's definitely true - that being said at Amecon I asked a room full of fans and got a distinctly uninterested response regarding Haruhi - which surprised me for sure. But hey - personally I am a fan of the show and nothing is ever set in stone!

Fellistowe said:
As regarding FLCL, Beez is obviously primarily a French distro, so a lot of their decisions are going to be based on what titles they have for the french market (a market which is huge in comparison to ours). Since Dybex have the french distro rights on FLCL, it makes it much harder for Beez to get (also a strong reason why we haven't seen the likes of Now & Then, Here & There over here).
I'm still a bit shaky on my knowledge of the French markets though, so please correct me if I'm wrong ;D

The French market is definitely immense compared to the UK one - my first time in the French offices was an amazing experience for me - the amount of titles available there that aren't in the UK is amazing - and some titles were just meant to be dubbed in French - like Gankusuou! But your analysis is pretty much correct - we prefer to gather licenses for Europe as a whole - as there are some pretty interesting markets on the rise at present outside of the ones already established!

That isn't to say we don't acquire UK rights only, Cowboy Bebop is a Dybex title in France, as is Escaflowne to my memory (last I checked) and they both have UK releases by us - and I'm certainly pursuing a few like that. It makes it much harder though especially with a title that has had time to be established as a fan-favourite elsewhere!

Fellistowe said:
p.s. I think Andrews probably quite interested in your feedback on the Anime Central threads ;)

That I am - it helps me when it comes to discussing what the fans want with Mark over at Anime Central! So do fire away with feedback!
 
DaNiMe-sama said:
It's nice to see another side to things. I created this thread only to make open discussion with representitives, so people can see what's going on. I guess the secret e-mail way will have to be the only way though, and even doing that won't enable a discussion about why this and that can't be possible. UK anime fans are in the dark about many things, more than other countries. I know the US fanbase is massive in proportion to us, and I know US anime distributors are much bigger, but it all boils down to having interaction with fans. It's not like we're asking them to be here 24/7 answering questions. I didn't post this on the Beez forums because they're tiny in comparison to AnimeUKNews, and many less people will read them, maybe I'll get an answer there but nowhere near as many people will know that it's even there.

I completely agree with you here DaNiMe, I think it's very important to have several views and have open and frank discussion about things! Which is why I am here, though I do frequently comb forums to gather opinions too so have checked each UK forum monthly that I can find and noted down what I can at least!

I would much prefer discuss things openly than keep things by "secret e-mail" though as it saves me saying the same things again and again and only getting the same viewpoint ^^;;;! That being said my counterparts do know me as the man who never sleeps, which explains where I find the extra time to check forums I guess! I agree that it all boils down to interaction though which is why I am right here to talk as face-to-face as possible on the internet and not hide behind any big corporate mask* (excluding my avatar, which I am sure is better than a mug-shot of me!)

DaNiMe-sama said:
The best possible solution I thought of while writing this, was to create a sticky for each UK distributor, at the top of the page, where people can ask questions and the representitives can reply.. like the stick where people ask Chris questions about Japan. That works perfectly.
Just a note about the "come one come all" kind of idea, where if one person asks something, everyone will. I don't believe that to be the case, and the proof of that is the fact that no one has posted a single question to Revelation in these forums - as far as I am aware - even though Revelation have posted an advert, a thank you, and an answer to a question. That has caused no problems what-so-ever. So I stand by my argument that we should have more communication with distributors.

A sticky would be ideal so I can keep track of it - as I will be checking the forums as regularly as possible given the job now and replying on a post by post basis. But it'd be nice to have a place people could ask questions directly to me or such!

I again apologize for my slow replies to everyone - it was pretty terrible of me and I'll make sure it doesn't happen again if possible!

*Not even a little corporate mask, though those are harder to come by!
 
Did'nt Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke gross more in France than the UK and America?

I still think the UK market can be bigger than France, it just seems to be missing something.
 
Hi Andrew, this is one question I've never seen answered. I don't know if you or any one else will be able to answer it but I'll ask anyway.

Why has Dragonball/Z/GT never been released uncut over here?

Thanks :)
 
Hi Andrew,

I must say an absolutely massive thank you for replying on behalf of everyone here as well, and you replied in such large quantity, thanks a lot for spending the time to do that! This is the first step to a great thing indeed! Also, there's absolutely no need to apologize about being late to reply, it must be a very busy job indeed and I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say this is greatly appreciated!

EDIT: I'll change the title of this topic, and hope it gets stickied.
 
setochaos said:
Hi Andrew, this is one question I've never seen answered. I don't know if you or any one else will be able to answer it but I'll ask anyway.

Why has Dragonball/Z/GT never been released uncut over here?

Thanks :)

Easy, some french company owns the rights to the European release of DBZ dvds but refuses to sell it off to Funimation or anyone else, hence where the horribly dubbed movies we had released here came from
 
Thanks for answering questions. It's always nice to get replies from people actually involved. :)

This is probably a long shot but I'm going to ask anyway. Is there a chance that Beez could get some UK licences for either Movies, TV Series, TV Specials or OAVs in the Lupin the Third franchise. It's a fantastic franchise and is sorely overlooked in the UK. Out of 30 years worth of material only 3 DVD releases exist in the UK, it's rather tragic for such a classic.
 
Ryo Chan said:
setochaos said:
Hi Andrew, this is one question I've never seen answered. I don't know if you or any one else will be able to answer it but I'll ask anyway.

Why has Dragonball/Z/GT never been released uncut over here?

Thanks :)

Easy, some french company owns the rights to the European release of DBZ dvds but refuses to sell it off to Funimation or anyone else, hence where the horribly dubbed movies we had released here came from

I see thats annoying...maybe when there licence runs out we can see some actual good releases of the series.
 
setochaos said:
Ryo Chan said:
setochaos said:
Hi Andrew, this is one question I've never seen answered. I don't know if you or any one else will be able to answer it but I'll ask anyway.

Why has Dragonball/Z/GT never been released uncut over here?

Thanks :)

Easy, some french company owns the rights to the European release of DBZ dvds but refuses to sell it off to Funimation or anyone else, hence where the horribly dubbed movies we had released here came from

I see thats annoying...maybe when there licence runs out we can see some actual good releases of the series.

I don't know what the French release was like, but I know that Funimation's new boxsets that they claim to be 'remastered' are worse than the original by far.
 
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