ayase said:
alexrose1uk said:
Watched EVA2.22, from the point of view of someone who's never watched the original its a bit of a strange one and it definately feels like part two, more so than a standalone.
Now that will make your thoughts very interesting to read. I don't think I know of another person who's following the rebuild but hasn't seen the original. At least, not around here. I could be wrong though.
I don't recall noticing an audio drop - where exactly does it take place? I'll check my BD.
The audio dropout was near the end where 'pilot X' finds Shinji accidentally. Luckily it wasn't at an important part. I mean potentially it could also be my player, but seems for audio to be fine completely and just drop out once
I figured I'm probably one of the smaller group who hasn't seen the original now given it's status as one of the 'classics'. It's always been one of those titles I've just not got round to as I only got into anime a few years back and the backlog of stuff I wouldn't mind checking out is pretty epically long.
I'd been planning to have a Mecha season run next year and slot it into that. I'm also somewhat ambivilent to the whole Mecha genre as a whole; if it's a good show that features mecha, I'll enjoy it, like I enjoyed FMP, but I don't typically go out of my way for mecha purely for mecha's sake unlike some. (although what guy under 50 wouldn't love a potentially sentient, sometimes talking, bipedal war machine?)
Iit's been quite some while now since I saw 1.11, so I may be missing connections I shouldn't have and wouldn't if I was marathoning the films, which is something I entend to do after all 4 have arrived.
Unfortunately Evangelion is one of those shows you can't avoid but at least hear something about because of it's status, so even having never seen Evangelion, I went in to both films with some sort of vague idea of who the characters were, and what people typically though of them, even if I knew very little about the plot; especially as so many people liken the show as to founding some of our current stereotypes
- the introverted, 'emo' protagonist
- the quiet, educating, sometimes sickly (usually female) side character
- the tsundere
Anyway, going back directly to the film itself.
The animation itself is nice, if stylised, and the animation is smooth, I can't criticise it on the visuals, although I get the feeling the animation style probably harks back to the original series; as the series is a strange blend of modern art style and what seems to be an older style. I wouldn't say that's necessary a bad thing, just it doesn't perhaps always look how you'd expect an ultramodern anime film to look (example: Dissapearance), and reminds me more of Akira and Ghost, although slightly more colourful.
Unfortunately, I can't give an amazing amount of feedback on the audio mix. Whilst I have decent 5.1, as it was late I had to keep it quiet, and thus I can't really say what I thought of the mix too well, as I wasn't able to go 'full throttle'.
The musical choices were sometimes reasonable, othertimes however I did think the choice of musical score was somewhat disasterous. The whole point of ambient scoring is to try and develop the mood of the scene, and to enhance the emotion and connection the audience are feeling; and unfortunately, incredibly serious scenes with completely disconnected music just aren't a favourite choice of mine. This was a point both me and my brother whom I watched it with felt strongly on; as it very nearly took away some of the impact of the scene.
It was like watching Jaws, but with the Harry Hill theme tune playing to give an example. Now this may have been deliberate given the somewhat surreal feel of the end of the movie, and if so, that's fine, but personally, I didn't like it, and would have opted for something more stirring and fitting of the mood.
In terms of characters; well Shinji is much as I'd expect based on the stereotype; although admittedly he does seem to have far greater reason for it than most of his equally depressive contemporaries; so I swing from finding him sometimes a little frustrating and indecisive, to actually understanding his mindset.
Ayanami, again having been introduced in the first movie, you have an idea of what to expect, and you can see where, providing she acts similar to the original series as I understand this film and the following films are meant to diverge from the original, does seem to almost in a stereotypical manner convey some of the character preset with other later characters like Nagato are based on.
That's not to say she's without charm however; and I think sometimes she does well portray what a shy, somewhat socially inexperienced person many well do thrust into such circumstances, and I can understand the popularity of the stereotype as there's a quiet charm about it.
Asuka, being new to this film, was the character I was perhaps most interested to meet, as she's the completion of the famous trio from the originals.
Without spoiling too much, I found her interesting, although rabidly antisocial yet with deep insecurities, which felt somewhat forced given the period of time we were given to get to know her and the rate at which some of these mood swings occurred.
I also found her role in this movie depressingly short, and am hoping she'll return for a larger role in the next film as I think she'll benefit from the exposure and getting to know her better, it felt like she was barely in half the movie which is quite limited for what is meant to be a main character, and limited our chances to get to know her, and the amount of character development that could be employed without it starting to feel a bit forced.
In terms of overall plot, I think all the movies will benefit far more from being able to be watched as a marathon whole. Whilst they're interesting diversions in thier own right, a lot feels missing and you can tell they're something longer cut into sections.
Whilst I agree with the timing of these cuts roughly based on what has happened, it does leave you heavily feel like you're just watching part of a story, only to be left on a cliff hanger and have to wait years for the next one. It works well for some films, but typically those films have more of a self contained subplot which allows them to work well as a film, wheres Evangelion 2.22 literally is part 2 of 4, and feels like it.
I see a lot of other reviewers criticising the first Eden of the East movie for the same thing, and yet many of the reviewers of EVA 2.22 seem to avoid making the same criticism possibly because of the nostalgia they feel towards the original and the subject matter. Taking a completely fresh perspective though, I find it hard to ignore this.
The other slight criticism I have is that, whilst all the fights are different, they nearly always feel slightly repetetive in that its a constant 'Angel, find core, squish core, move on' in the most part. That's not really the best way to explain it but I'm a little pressed on time as writing this
I don't think the fights have quite the same tension and synergy as some I've seen.
My overall rating would be enjoyable, but not without flaws, especially when not tied by nostalgia, and a movie that will probably reach its potential only when watched with the others.
7/10 (although being more accurate I'd rate it as 7.5).