Rate the last anime you watched out of 10

I think it might have something to do with it being a TMS series. While there are still plenty of exceptions, a lot of videos containing clips of their shows have disappeared from youtube in recent times.

The reconstuction thing was fun to do though :)
 
Sarai-ya Goyou (House of Five Leaves): 6/10

From my AP user review...

Sarai-ya Goyou has several things going for it: a cowardly samurai who is actually damn good in a fight; a dubious antihero called Yaichi, who hides in the shadows smiling knowingly; a gorgeous soundtrack that mixes the modern (OP and ED) and traditional (in-episode score); a mature concept design and distinctive-looking characters wearing haunting, mournful eyes; and a ‘rogues against the world’ plot about a ragtag of people who kidnap members of bad families for a living.

In the great tradition of bad decisions, however, the show throws these fruitful seeds on a bedrock of bland character arcs. After a hopeful setup in which the cowardly samurai Akitsu Masanosuke joins the odd criminal band, the House of Five Leaves, the plot drifts into the wan, uncontroversial back stories of its members. Their backgrounds are given away in long expository dialogues, the gist of which is usually ‘I steal and kidnap because my impoverished child needs the money’. These could have been snappy misadventures in the vein of Cowboy Bebop but their insipid formula and insistence on telling instead of showing quickly dampens any burning emotions.

Masa is also annoyingly passive, cripplingly dull, and stalks through the plot with a face like a beaten pup. Even the creators seem unsure what to do with him, at one point giving him the debilitating ‘Edo disease’ so they can conveniently shuffle him aside while the rest get on with driving the plot. On the other hand, his foil, Yaichi, the mysterious leader of the House of Five Leaves, brings a seductively twisted undertone to the narrative. Designed with lank, white hair and usually portrayed as veiled by shadow, his background of neglect and betrayal only add to his intrigue. But his criminal plots are in dire need of thickening: they’re often simplistic and play too little a role to convince us of his singular genius.

Encouragingly, all that eschewing Sarai-ya Goyou does of its initial potential leads to something unique. Even if I wasn’t enamoured of its limp progression, I was charmed by the sturdy flavour, which recalls the delicacy of Mushishi and the subversive tang of Kaiji. For all my reservations, I’m enormously glad this trend-bucking show exists. I think people who love brooding, deliberate stories that aren’t immediately obvious will gain the most from this.

EDIT:

Professor Irony, thanks for that review! I loved Castle of Cagliostro and so your review got me interested in seeing the series. At first I assumed it was a long-running one, hence I never bothered checking it out seriously. But if it's only 23 eps, I have no reason to hesitate.
 
Sure thing. You can definitely get a sense of Miyazaki building towards Cagliostro from the episodes he worked on - the famous pink 2CV even puts in an appearance.

The only thing to watch out for would be dodgy subtitles. My copy had HK subs on it, but there's much better ones on opensubtitles.org.

Also I really need to finish Five Leaves...
 
Gundam 00 Season One - 9/10

Let's start with the reasons why it isn't 10/10. It starts a little slowly, primarily because it tries to deal with so many plot threads right from the get-go. There are one or two of those smaller plot threads, or perhaps certain characters, who do end up under-developed (in some cases you could argue this is with a view to the second season, but still). The very, very last fight of the season is arguably a little rushed and feels slightly "random". I really, really hate Nena and Louise. And that's about it.

You could argue that the backstories for the four Gundam pilots are all a little cliche, but this is superseded by how well these stories are illustrated - especially Setsuna and Allelujah, but also including Lockon by the end of the series. Tieria is probably the main ingredient in the "left for Season Two" stew, despite his interactions with Lockon during the final episodes.

Setsuna's scenes with Marina stand out, even given their sporadic nature. Episodes 8 and 12 are the high points of the first half of Season One for exactly this reason, with their talk on bridge in episode 8 really feeling like the start of the series kicking into gear. This carries all the way through to Setsuna's daydream in episode 21, and is one of the more delicate and poignant relationships in the show.

The show also goes to great lengths to humanize the key individuals on the other side of the "conflict". Whilst the political and military concerns aligned against the Gundams are presented as being fairly generically "evil", the most important characters in each faction are generally easy to sympathize with, and will certainly have their own fans. Soma Peries, a genetically engineered "Super Soldier" from the Sino-Indo-Russian Human Reform League, and Graham Aker, ace pilot from the primarily American "Union", could be the stars of their own show if required. The really detestable antagonists come from third parties, and this allows for some considerably different interpretations of who both the audience and some of the characters in the show should be rooting for.

The animation is more than just a cut above the usual TV show, with a huge budget being put to good use. There is a slightly soulless feel to the digital renditions of the Itano Circus, but in general the mech battles are truly exciting. The character animation is not quite up to the standards of, say, KyoAni's incidental detail, but is still slick enough. The OP and ED songs are, of course, performed by primarily mainstream artists, but they are a more than acceptable fit for the show.

What really marks the show out, though, is the breadth of political and socioeconomic issues on which it touches. For me, Gundam as a whole can be categorized as being about geopolitics, and there are a number of examples throughout the metaseries of shows with far more depth than some people may give them credit for. Gundam 00 is arguably the most ambitious, however, focusing so much as it does on life on Earth rather than in space colonies (although this does also play a part), and drawing so many close parallels with significant contempory issues.
 
For now, Maes, due to chronic laziness after sending lengthy messages to numerous drama queens, I'll have to respectfully disagree with your rating/views/everything in general, halfway through. I'm still yet to extend my viewing beyond episode 13.

Vivian's review on Anime-Planet went along with my views, and I got the impression her rating was only a little higher than my current score of 7/10 because it ends better than it starts. It's how Sunrise work: they end on an epic cliffhanger, only to totally disappointment with the follow-through by throwing numerous pointless characters into an already messy mess of a mess.

By the way, I wasn't saying Louise is a great character before; I was merely pointing out the irony of me only caring for a rom-com pairing in a mecha anime that tried (and failed) to deal with politics/be deep. She's certainly the most distinctive with her colourful, amusing antics, and no less developed than any of the heroic bishies, though.

Code Geass owned Gundam into the ground by keeping the focus narrow and dealing with only one country's problems; showing the struggles of the Japanese and even throwing in a good old fashioned slaughter scene or two. Unlike 00, it had a main character worth remembering, with motives outlined as clearly as humanly possible from the get-go. And also unlike 00, until R2 turned it into Gundam, it didn't jump around like a horny whore on crack (rabbits are outdated).

...You know, thinking about it, the Star Wars prequels are to Star Wars what R2 is to S1: both ruin the original stories/characterization and are only regarded highly by mindless drones who don't even understand what consistency means.

Anyway, business:

New Angel: 7/10

NA starting with sex and the art lacking the old school charm of Angel made me worried. But, after EP1, Shizuka became an uncanny Madoka lookalike (KOR), and the two-part finale was more rom-com than hentai. Funny, moving AND erotic (UNCENSORED!) sex.

Private Psycho Lesson: 4/10

A 'psychologist' flying in a helicopter and putting her patients into hypnotic trances by moving her boobs in a circular motion?... Low-budget and lacking the penetration required of porn. Too shallow to be taken seriously as a psychological exploration.

Vixens: 6/10

I never thought a hottie bathing with a 'squirrel' could be arousing. 1-2 amused me; the lead landing himself with a cat-girl and her laying wish-granting eggs. 3-4 had a 'slutty girl' theme and were decent. Only 5 was truly erotic. Genitals, where?

Countdown: Akira Complex - 6/10

This tale of a brother madly in love with his twisted older sister, and feeling nothing as he screws other women, is better than most. But it has VN animation; only the sex scenes having ANY animation. Rushed ending: Akira didn't deserve Kaname.

El Hazard: The Wanderers - 7/10

The cheesiness of MakotoxRune aside, an excellent re-working of AIC's classic. All three priestesses had back-stories added, and the additional Jinnai hilarity with the all-new, ditzy Ifurita made up for any and every flaw. Ifurita the ditz = auto-love.

El Hazard: The Alternative World - 5/10

It's a sign of badness when a series focuses on a jumbled mess that plays out in industrialized Russia, rather than El Hazard... and then ends without explanations by going, "It was all a dream! HOT SPRING TIME!!" Only fat + reverse-raped Jinnai saved it.

Ashita no Joe (Movie) - 8/10

Yay for random Chinese (in English), official DVD releases! Most of the early bits highlighting how troubled Joe is were skipped, but it was still enthralling. The counter-countering end fight was epic, and there was a nice touch of unpredictability.


Random: I'm watching City Hunter and Kurau, at the mo. City Hunter is the greatest anime ever created. Kurau's been surprisingly great, too, considering Ayase has it as his #1. (I'm unsure whether the lack of the "lesbian subtext" mentioned by a hater is a good or a bad thing...)
 
AironicallyHuman said:
Kurau's been surprisingly great, too, considering Ayase has it as his #1. (I'm unsure whether the lack of the "lesbian subtext" mentioned by a hater is a good or a bad thing...)
It never ceases to amaze me how anime fans manage to find gay/lesbian subtext in even the most innocent of relationships. Anyway, seeing as Christmas is supposed to be 12 or something, I'd say it's a good thing. But then I don't have Sana on my favourite character list...

It's a good show. I'm surprised I was the first to write a Kurau/Witchblade recommendation on MAL, so similar are the themes shared by the two. With you liking Witchblade, I'm not surprised that Kurau is also up your street.
 
ilmaestro said:
Gundam 00 Season One - 9/10

What.

I was merely pointing out the irony of me only caring for a rom-com pairing in a mecha anime that tried (and failed) to deal with politics/be deep.

Hah. Well put.

In all honesty, I'd now go for 7/10 for 00 and 6.5/10 for 00 S2. But I like to think I went with my gut feelings at the time and thus stick by my rating.
 
VivisQueen said:
ilmaestro said:
Gundam 00 Season One - 9/10

What.
/shrug

I think if you look back to three years ago, there wasn't much (any?) anime looking to address the range of issues that Gundam 00 does, and I'm quite happy to reward ambition (I would also rate Senkou no Night Raid at about 9/10, I think, purely for having the balls to tackle the material it does). Add that onto it being one of the most exciting action shows of the last few years, having some great mech designs, some stand out individual scenes (Haro bleeping "Lockon... Lockon..." is one of the better character death scenes I've seen in a while, the scene where Louise reveals her missing hand to Saji is perfectly pitched, as are some of the scenes between Setsuna and Marina), a plot that isn't totally predictable but doesn't rely on "random" twists (Ok, with the exception of TRANS-AM), and a large range of likable characters. I think the only key character I don't like (in the sense of I don't particularly enjoy his role in the show, rather than like/hate on a personal level) in Season One is Ribbons, which for such a large cast is some good going.

I find very few shows to be "sort of OK" 5/6/7 out of 10. In fact, I don't love marks out of 10, because the shows I would put in that area usually are really good for a while, and really bad for a while, so I don't think the number grade helps.
 
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I was going to argue, and then realised, why spend the energy when AironicallyHuman will no doubt wade in anyway? Thanks for sharing. I disagree with your assessment.
 
This is why these rating threads always bother me, and why I can't get along with something like MAL. Liking anime is a very personal thing, but as soon as someone seriously rates something popularly regarded as "uncool" high, or heaven forbid, does the opposite, they're jumped on. Maybe it's enjoyable to bicker about arbitrary numbers but I don't see the appeal.

For what it's worth, I found 00 fantastically interesting and hurriedly consumed all of the LE singles upon release, even immediately rewatching those episodes which had a commentary track each time to drag the experience out as long as possible.

I enjoyed 00 at its worst more than I enjoyed Geass (which was an entertaining enough show!) at its best. Setsuna wasn't my favourite character, but I found him more interesting than I did Lelouch. People are different.

In before the accusations of being easily pleased, whatever that means (I don't mind if I am seen that way).

R
 
Welcome to this miraculous thing called 'discussion'. That's when people with differing tastes thrash out ideas until they come to some kind of conclusion or get fed up and part undecided. It's a process you shall come across many times over and over. It's part of what makes watching anime fun.

And Gundam 00 isn't 'uncool', it's just generic. I preferred SEED enormously more (since straight out popcorn beats morose-bombastic-nonsense-dressed-up-as-popcorn every time) and Unicorn's animation makes 00 look like scribbles of **** on an asylum wall (a line I was going to reserve for my eventual review but feel is pertinent here).

There's nothing wrong with liking Gundam 00, by the way. I liked it too on balance, as my above average rating will evidence. What I disagree with is the notion that it occupies the upper echelons of excellence and creativity (*SQUEAL* OMG THAT CHARACTER DIED IT WAS SO SAD I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYONE DIE IN A MECHA SHOW BEFORE AND THEY WERE SOMEONE LIKEABLE NOT A BAD GUY WHO DEFINITELY DESERVES TO DIE *SQUEAL*). That, for me, is straining the limits of taste and rationality.

Hmm. The tone of my post seems to have strayed into acute sarcasm, which was not my intention initially. Oh well.
 
I think there's a massive difference between excellence and creativity. I am equally impressed by ambition and execution. I'm not as impressed by putting words in people's mouths, or "straying into" acute sarcasm.

I also think there is a massive difference between "discussion" and:

VivisQueen said:
ilmaestro said:
Gundam 00 Season One - 9/10

What.

VivisQueen said:
I was going to argue, and then realised, why spend the energy

VivisQueen said:
Thanks for sharing
 
ilmaestro said:
I think there's a massive difference between excellence and creativity. I am equally impressed by ambition and execution. I'm not as impressed by putting words in people's mouths, or "straying into" acute sarcasm.

Gundam 00 has no ambition beyond the ordinary (its target audience is obviously not anybody looking for originality, but people out for an easy thrill and easily identifiable characters, which is not to say that's bad). As for execution, do you mean bad or good execution? Because Gundam 00's is okay. Everything holds together, but it's not like the narrative structure or the delivery of the scene or even the individual shots, dialogue, or choreography are in any way extraordinary. Gundam 00 does nothing that wasn't covered already even by its own franchise e.g. the UC works, Gundam Wing, SEED... except dress it up a bit with smashing animation. And then, you gotta think, Macross Zero got there first on that front.

So, again, 9/10, for me would indicate something phenomenal, a topic we've never seen before or an old topic never covered in that way before. We are, after all, talking about a scale of 1-10, where 1 equals absolute **** and 10 equals the bestest most originalest most awesomest piece of animation/storytelling you've seen.

In every aspect except budget, by the way, TTGL beats Gundam 00 hands down (if we are willing to cross off 'action' as well, we should consider Bokurano). It's ambition is not just to create a shounen feast of action, but to revive a long-mummified subgenre of mecha, (super robot), it tosses in a sumptuous concept design, emotional deaths, executes everything with enormous energy and bursts open at the seams with action. It has just the right amount of characters, they're not nuanced but they're two-dimensional and fit the plot to a tee, it skims over universal ideas about humanity, our worth, our greed, our overpopulation, our threat to the environment, our lemming mentality, and it does so while making it all seem effortless. I take it, then, that despite TTGL's evident flaws, it gets a 10/10?
 
VivisQueen said:
Well, thank you for at least "spending the energy" to reply properly (although, in the interests of full disclosure, I don't think that either of us is of the opinion that you had to go to any Olympic medal worthy lengths to make a 300 word reply on the topic of mech anime), I'm glad to know exactly where you're coming from as regards your relatively lower opinion of the show.

I'm not sure where the Gurren Lagann paragraph came from (outside of a possible-but-unlikely "If Chewbacca lives on Endor..." approach) so for the non-00 related parts of your post suffice to say that "something phenomenal, a topic we've never seen before or an old topic never covered in that way before" would be something I would look for in a 10/10 show, not a 9/10 show. So I don't think "We are, after all, talking about a scale of 1-10", I think we are, after all, talking about two completely different scales of 1-10, and this is yet another reason why I don't like quantitative review "scores".

How much more pleasant this page of this thread (I'm blithely assuming that everyone's forum settings mean that this exchange covers no more than a page) would have been if you had replied like that in the first place, or just said nothing at all.
 
Rui said:
This is why these rating threads always bother me, and why I can't get along with something like MAL. Liking anime is a very personal thing, but as soon as someone seriously rates something popularly regarded as "uncool" high, or heaven forbid, does the opposite, they're jumped on. Maybe it's enjoyable to bicker about arbitrary numbers but I don't see the appeal.
If you are afraid of being "jumped on", then why are you even on the internet? Giving ratings to anime and whatever shows the world how we feel at a glance and we wish to have a discussion about how right or wrong we are. If you are afraid of people picking on you then you're doing it wrong.
 
ilmaestro said:
You mean the only way to improve it is to get Jackie Chan to star in it?

/may not have that quite right

Y'know, I actually thought the Jackie Chan version was okay. It doesn't bear much resemblance to the series it's supposedly an adaptation of (they even gave Kaori long hair for feck's sake), but it's still quite an entertaining little film in its own right.
 
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