Rate the last anime you watched out of 10

Well that's not really true
in the series it's said that the shiki can drink blood from the same person 4 times then they ether turn or die...........

So really if the shiki drank blood from the same person 3 times and then after that they move on to the next person so that person can recover and the cycle continues.... so really they don't need to kill..... hell it was established that this can happen but the reason they did it was so they could make a home for them selfs not out of malice intent......

I hate the humans... especially the doctor and the bearded bastard.

I felt sorry for migumi and even cried when she was killed....... hell her death in the manga was kinder to her

The monk is my favourite... you say his a hypocrite for saying he killed that bearded guy right.... well in the manga the bearded guy leads the way to the temple and he kills the temple .... Also if he didn't kill him in the burning church then he would of told the other villagers that the monk and sunako was still alive and they would of went after them...... hell the bearded guy was a complete monster in the manga...... He enjoyed him self killing shiki and humans.... hell his scene in the burning church in the manga is worse BECAUSE he doesn't give a long hypocritical speech .. but instead torments sunako and enjoys every moment of it .... And his death by the hands of the monk was funny.

I side with the shiki because I understand why the did what they did........ the series shows us that humans can be more monster then the actual monsters[/quote]
I guess that is one way of looking at it. Although you say they don't need to kill, and that is true now that you mention it, they don't ever try to find a diplomatic solution. They just move in and start killing immediately. I also felt really bad for Migumi. I really liked her and I felt really bad for her. A lot of the Shiki got it bad, but she got it the worst I think. Also, I can't exactly comment on the Manga, I've only got the show to go off of.

Also, the spoiler should be fixed now, thanks for the heads up.[/quote]

:cry: ........ do you know how happy I am right now ..... Cause many people don't like migumi and saw her as a brat but at least she was the most human in show...... I'm happy.

Also
the reason they didn't establish a diplomatic solution is because they knew they wouldn't be accepted by humans....... think about it for a sec

Why do you think they keep moving around all the time before coming to the village.... they needed to keep moving so no one would find out what they are.

And

If you saw sunakos back story... on how she became a shiki... you will see that her own family abandoned her because of what she became and they left her in a barn for 20 years and she went looking for them for 50 years.

Humans hate and fear what we don't understand or is different from our selfs.......... It's not that easy to get a diplomatic solution because of what they are.....

let me give you a few examples

In x-men humans hate and fear mutants because of what they are and can do.

In dance in the vampire bund... the queen of the vampires wants a co existence but the humans hate and fear her kind even when she wants a co existence.......... It's a good series watch and read it.

In naruto...... If you seen it you know what it's about and I don't need to give intro about naruto.

In wolf children the mother of the series has to keep the secret that her kids can turn in too wolfs because of the fear that humans will outcast or dissect them

Even in real life humans hate each other because of skin colour, religion cultural differences.... so it's not too farfetched
 
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You bring up good points. However I think some sort of attempt, even if it wasn't straight away would have been nice to see, just to reaffirm the point. Although maybe that would have been too heavy handed. I'm not sure.
 
IncendiaryLemon said:
You bring up good points. However I think some sort of attempt, even if it wasn't straight away would have been nice to see, just to reaffirm the point. Although maybe that would have been too heavy handed. I'm not sure.
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Sunako did glancly say she and her family did try once..... I can't remember what ep it was that she said it but she did say she tried once and it didn't work out.

There was too much to lose if they did try.... If there existence came in to being then they would of Benn in trouble..... didn't you see what the humans did to the shiki in the series.... If the shiki .... all of them didn't stand a chance then how the hell is 4 shiki and a human supposed to stand up to the humans if they decided to kill the shiki.

I mean would you accept undead beings that suck human blood with powers......from what I saw I would accept them but with the villagers I highly doubt they would
 
Again, good points. I was more talking about later on in the series, maybe towards the end when the numbers are about equal, as a last resort for the Shiki before ultimately getting slaughtered.
 
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IncendiaryLemon said:
Again, good points. I was more talking about later on in the series, maybe towards the end when the numbers are about equal, as a last resort for the Shiki before ultimately getting slaughtered.
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You wanna know something........ this series traumatized me so bad that i Feel sick every time I even think about the..... well you know.

I doubt the humans would listen to the shiki since they killed there fellow villagers and saw them as monsters........
 
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Space Pirate Captain Harlock (the CGI movie) - 7.5 / 10

Enjoyed this a lot more than I thought I would - I mean, on the surface it's just a slick popcorn action movie, but like the best action movies do, it sweeps you up and carries you along for the ride - so even though the story is pretty by the by, the journey is enjoyable none the less.

I found the characters enjoyable and they left you with just enough mystique to draw you into the mythos of the wider franchise and it definitely left me wanting to watch more Harlock - I did have a few issues with the portrayal of Kay though, just because the male gaze focused on her was so overt. Have a strong female character for sure, and make her look hot, but when every camera angle on her is looking her up and down (and not to mention the shoe-horned in shower scene) then it becomes a bit OTT.

But yeah - the CGI work was impressive, and stuff like hair and facial expressions were genuinely realistic. That said, the English dub felt really out of sync with the lip movements, so much so it actually distracted me from what was actually a pretty solid dub effort.
 
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animefreak17 said:
Which side you on
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That's a hard question. I'd be tempted to say humans since they didn't start the fight. However the Shiki also need to survive, and they can only do so by killing humans. To quote Sunako "We didn't choose to be monsters". The fact it's such a hard question to answer, and ultimately doesn't have an answer that make the story pretty brilliant.
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Yeah, that it why I thought it was great too, the fact that you didn't flat out hate the enemy and occasionally sympathised with them. Obvious being Human you'd naturally side with them but the fact that you have to second guess it, is mad props to the show. Also the score in that show was damn fine, some the best I have ever heard in an anime.
 
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Beyblade

Ok admit I saw this when I was younger and did buy the actual beyblades... when you watch it as a kid you think stuff like this is good.

But as an adult you can tell they are just trying to brainwash you in to buying there toys... cause that's what it feels like just to sell toys.

The dub sounds bad.

The story is about the underdog trying to be the best like..

Ash from pokemon
Yugi from yugioh
Ect

I couldn't really get in too it and I'm glad I finished it.

6/10

On to orphen
 
Ahhh you guys have me wanting to rewatch Shiki so bad.

If you haven't, I highly recommend reading Stephen King's "'Salem's Lot", the book that the original Shiki novel was inspired by.
 
Death Note (Dub)-9/10

I was very conflicted about what score I should give this show but in the end I decided on a 9. I really liked this show, it's definitely one of the best shows I've seen recently, and I can see why many hold it in such high regard. First of all, there are the visuals. On the surface, the show doesn't appear to look that impressive but I absolutely loved what they did with light and shadow in the show. They use lighting very effectively to add mood to scenes in ways that I have rarely seen any other anime do and it's genuinely quite impressive. Another thing that made it stand out is how a lot of the shots were framed. Again, it's something I feel anime seems to underutilize but Death Note really stood out in regards to cinematography. The actual animation itself isn't overly impressive but it works. The character designs were a bit of a mixed bag. The main cast seem to stand out and I like their designs (Misa in particular is incredibly cute) but the supporting cast is quite generic and bland. Again, it works, but it's nothing outstanding. The real reason why I loved Death Note was it's story but that's also why I was conflicted in my score. Episodes 1-26 have a superb story, a cat and mouse game between a serial killer and a detective, and it gets very tense quite often and is very enjoyable watching how Light schemes in order to avoid getting caught. Episode 26 has an ending that would have been fine with a bit of an extension but the issue is it just keeps going and the last third isn't anywhere near as enjoyable as what preceded it. It feels like it should have ended at 26 but then they found out it was popular and had to make more or something. It kind of felt like Psycho Pass 2 compared to Psycho Pass. It felt like more of the same but something was just missing. I would have been fine if Episode 26 ended with L's death followed by a flash forward 3 years to show the Kira obsessed world that was shown in the last 11 episodes and the US giving into Kira and stuff. That would have been fine. However they introduce a new main Villain (Well, Villain from the perspective of Light, I guess he's more of a hero) and he's the one that ends up catching Light. While it's a good ending, it looses all of it's impact due to L not being there. Sure, they try to justify it by saying that L is still haunting Light even after his death (or words to that effect) but it's just kind of contrived and it's really frustrating seeing the build up to L catching Light only for him to die and be replaced by a kid who catches Kira in 10 episodes. Not only is the pay off lessened because we haven't seen as much of Near but it makes L, who was touted as the Word's Greatest Detective, look incompetent in comparison. All that aside, I thought the last episode was well done and I liked the outcome. Another highlight of Death Note is it's characters. More specifically the characters of L and Light. While the the supporting cast is reasonably fleshed out, they can't compare to Light and L. Light in particular is such a great character because whilst he is the villain of the show, he is still the show's protagonist. When he is first introduced, he believe him to be the hero so even when he starts doing morally repugnant things, we're still rooting for him to win. Having the villain of the show be it's protagonist is very interesting to watch, and I've never seen it done before in an anime (Although it probably has) and I'm very open to suggestions of other anime that do the same thing. Lastly, I thought the music in the show was also really good. It's an eclectic mix of songs and they always nail the tone through a range of different styles.

Overall, whilst the last 10 or so episodes aren't up to snuff with the first 26, they're still not bad, and are not enough to bog down the experience as a whole. It is quite clear why it is seen as a modern classic.
 
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I firmly agree re. Death Note - even now, nearly a decade on, there are very few other anime shows that come close to the tension and handling of the subject matter it manages. At it's heart, it's just a good, solid, police procedural thriller - and you can't beat that for scratching that 'just one more episode' itch. You're right though, it definitely goes downhill after episode 26 though, which is a shame considering how perfect it is up to that point.

I'd definitely like to see more shows where the protagonist is in essence an out and out villain - it throws up some really interesting moral questions.
 
I also firmly agree. As far as I can tell most people seem to agree that it went downhill after L died. Some go as far as saying that's the ending and just not acknowledging anything after that. I thought it was just tying itself up in knots for the sake of it with all the fakes etc. I watched it with my then boyfriend, who's not into anime at all (I'd already read the manga) and he really enjoyed it too.

What I like about it, especially for a Jump series is how short it is. They didn't fall victim to the usual Jump trap of dragging on something successful to make more money out of it.
 
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Fate/Zero (Dub)-9/10

This was a show that I had been wanting to watch for a long time but I've always been a little intimidated by it. The type moon universe seemed so big and complex, spanning a tone of different light novels, visual novels and anime and this made always made me feel as if I probably shouldn't try. However, I bit the bullet, and watched Fate/Zero. Suffice to say, my worries were very much justified.

Fate/Zero is an excellent show but I found it to be quite overwhelming. First of all, this is one amazing looking show. It's probably not the best looking I've seen, but it's probably the best looking Action show I've seen. The battles were an absolute joy to watch. They were so incredibly well animated and choreographed and the fights in this were the highlight, easily some of the best I've seen in any anime. I wouldn't say this stretches to outside of the battle sequences, I found the characters could often look a bit muddled when they got a certain distance away, so it didn't always look fantastic, but it still looked good. I enjoyed the character designs quite a lot, they were quite varied (Although I thought that Kirei and Kiritsugu looked a little too similar) and visually appealing.

The characters, aside from the battle scenes, were where this show shines. The characters were very well fleshed out with the only exception being Caster and his master, who got relatively little screen time and development in comparison to everyone else. Most of this development happens in the first half of the series, so when characters start dying (I wouldn't consider this a spoiler since the premise of the show is essentially a battle royal scenario) you really feel for them. The deaths are all excellently pulled off too, giving most of the characters the send off's fitting for them.

The story, whilst simple in concept, provides a few twists and turns throughout in order to keep you watching. However, the story, in my opinion, is where the show starts to falter a bit. As I mentioned at the start, the show is quite overwhelming. Right from the off the show bombards you with new words and concepts but doesn't really take much time to explain them, most of the time offering a line or two at best. Now, I don't really feel comfortable taking away from my score because of this. I am aware that Fate/Stay Night probably explains a lot of the show and does a lot more world building, however, as someone who is watching this having never seen anything frame the type moon universe before, I found some of the concepts presented hard to follow. The last two episodes are the biggest offenders of this. I barely understood what was happening at all in the last half of Episode 24 and most of Episode 25. I'm not sure if that's because I haven't read the VN, because the show is legitimately confusing or because I'm an idiot. Any one could be valid but I honestly don't know which. I feel this is a show that could really benefit re-watch a few times just to fully grasp it. I had a lot of questions by the end that felt like they hadn't been answered, and probably won't be in Unlimited Blade Works.

Another issue I found with the show was the pacing. Across both Seasons of Fate/Zero there comes a point where it feels like the story comes to an absolute stand still. This doesn't mean the episodes are bad, they're not, but it got borderline boring when 2 or 3 episodes in a row where nothing but character building. Character building and development is important but when it's all in one go, it can be difficult to stomach. In the latter half of the show, the show straight up takes 2 episodes out to explain a character's backstory, right after a major development in the story. Having to wait 2 whole episodes to see the outcome was quite frustrating. If I was watching this whilst it was broadcasting, I think I would have went out of my mind.

All in all, Fate/Zero is a fantastic, if not a little flawed. I really enjoyed most of it, but I feel like it could have done with less episodes. It definitely throws you into the deep end in regardless to the type moon universe, and I'm not sure it was the best introduction to it. That being said, I'd still recommend it, despite it's flaws.
 
I would recommend watching kara no kyoukai as it is amazing- better than zero imo. Hopefully a lot of your questions will be answered in the upcoming HF movies.
Anyway I just finished legend of the galactic heroes and wow, that was a legendary series.
 
I've been wanting to watch Garden of Sinners for a while but considering the only UK release is still quite expensive, I'm probably not going to be able to any time soon.
 
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