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Muv-luv Alternative: Total Eclipse being listed simply as 'Muv' amuses me more than it should.
 
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Lavigne said:
Patlabor vol 2, DVD-only...<sob>
It's gone DVD-only in Australia too, due to poor performance:

https://www.facebook.com/madman/posts/1 ... %22R%22%7D
Unfortunately the original OVA series did not sell as well as we would have liked to continue with it. We do try to give options but when the numbers are just not stacking up it's hard for us to be able to continue releasing something at a loss. Hopefully the cost to produce BDs are lowered in the future and we'll be able to bring the rest of the series out this way.
 
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Such a shame.

I don't blame MVM, if a title doesn't sell then it doesn't sell. At least there's a DVD.
 
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The Patlabor series is cursed in the west, it's the only thing conclusion I can arrive at. The series has always been plagued with poor sales, throughout many releases, on many formats with many reinventions in packaging and price points. The greatest Anime series bar none, with the best soundtrack in anime ever, thank the Gods Sentai stuck with it!
 
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Indeed - import is looking like the only way with this one unfortunately.
 
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"Hopefully the cost to produce BDs are lowered in the future"

I'd be interested in knowing an approximate % split for something like this. As I understood it actually pressing a BD, is pennies so I guess the largest cost comes from licensing / authoring / case materials and checking???

If it were me negotiating this stuff, I'd try and get the licensing @ £x.xx per copy sold. At least that would insulate against shows that do badly, but maybe I'm being naive about how this whole process works...
 
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I'm pretty sure for titles like this, half the audience is BR anyway, so by not releasing a BR, you can probably wipe a good chunk of those clean off.

I'd love to know what a minimum print run has to be for a batch of BRs these days - 1000 copies might have been OK a few years back, but I suppose considering even Naruto struggles to do that now, that's a lot of copies just sitting around in the warehouse for years to come...
 
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msgeek said:
I'd be interested in knowing an approximate % split for something like this. As I understood it actually pressing a BD, is pennies so I guess the largest cost comes from licensing / authoring / case materials and checking???
There's a licence fee to pay to Sony for every BD as well. But from MVM's perspective, if there's not a disc they can share then they simply can't do it on blu-ray so Madman not doing one means they can't do one either.

Things will have changed a bit in the meantime, but here's something Madman said about BDs a few years back:

We have blu-ray production facilities in house. We author our own Blu-Rays from time to time when something is not available for us to use. E.G. Madoka Magica, All of the previously released Studio Ghibli films etc. But we have a bottleneck in the production as the licensing for the authoring software costs six figures. We also have other films who need to use the BD authoring facilities that we have. People forget sometimes that we also release films and TV shows and other products, not just anime. Blu-Rays also cost around 3x as much to master, where as DVDs are essentially a cost neutral exercise depending on how many we can order. The BD market in Australia is also much weaker than people believe it to be. Stats that we have show that the percentages of BD vs DVD is just not worthwhile a lot the time to do BD releases. For something as costly as this where it would be 3-4 BDs for each season and to be able to maintain the price that we have set? It's not worthwhile for us to the numbers that we would ultimately sell.
 
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Hmm interesting. That six figure sum for the authoring software does sound like a fairly hefty chunk... But I would have thought outsourcing the authoring piece to some company that specifically does just that, could result in fairly significant savings... I mean if some company already has appropriate software or is doing enough volume of encoding to get significant discount on the SW licensing. But I guess if it's the case with MVM that they don't want to get into authoring without another territory involved they wouldn't even look into something like that.

Outsourcing also means the authoring company has an incentive to author well as that equates to better / future business. Either that or build in clauses to the contract with some penalties for subsequently discovered issues or if anything does not match the original statement of works.

Disclaimer: I know very little about the anime industry, just some thoughts on how it would make sense to work to me, although some of those scenarios are quite similar to other B2B contracts and such like work.
 
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From reading Justin Sevakis' columns on ANN, I gather that actually authoring a BluRay which is actually useable is a lot more complicated than authoring a DVD, so it presumably costs more to hire people who can actually do it than it does to pay people to author DVDs. See Khazi's Un-Go release not working in Panasonic players for example.
 
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It's been mentioned in other thread but I think it merits being posted here too. Love Live has officially been announced and will be released on DVD on July 27th. According to UKA the release will come on 2 DVDs with a rigid slip cover case and a paperback art book. This release will be followed by a dual audio Blu Ray and DVD release in 2016. The same article also says Season 2 will also be released in 2016, this time going straight to a dual audio DVD and Blu Ray.

http://www.uk-anime.net/articles/Musing ... ve_story/3
 
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How many episodes are on those Love Live DVDs? If it's 24 then I suppose that price makes more sense...
 
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st_owly said:
From reading Justin Sevakis' columns on ANN, I gather that actually authoring a BluRay which is actually useable is a lot more complicated than authoring a DVD, so it presumably costs more to hire people who can actually do it than it does to pay people to author DVDs. See Khazi's Un-Go release not working in Panasonic players for example.

The thing is, this shouldn't really be the case. You don't have to make it so it works with all players, you have to make it to the standardised Blu-ray format, the people that make the players must ensure their player is capable of playing the standard BD. As long as both parties stick to that it should play on anything, that's the whole idea of a standard.
 
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Rosencrantz said:
st_owly said:
From reading Justin Sevakis' columns on ANN, I gather that actually authoring a BluRay which is actually useable is a lot more complicated than authoring a DVD, so it presumably costs more to hire people who can actually do it than it does to pay people to author DVDs. See Khazi's Un-Go release not working in Panasonic players for example.

The thing is, this shouldn't really be the case. You don't have to make it so it works with all players, you have to make it to the standardised Blu-ray format, the people that make the players must ensure their player is capable of playing the standard BD. As long as both parties stick to that it should play on anything, that's the whole idea of a standard.

You'd think so, wouldn't you? But it doesn't seem like that's the case :roll:
 
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From the UK Anime Twitter:

MVM will look at following Anime Limited's lead in terms of Collector's Editions and offering something extra with home video releases.
 
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That's fairly exciting. Really glad others are looking at what Anime Ltd are doing in terms of releases and taking note.
 
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Joshawott said:
From the UK Anime Twitter:

MVM will look at following Anime Limited's lead in terms of Collector's Editions and offering something extra with home video releases.
I kinda hoped this would happen tbh, I mean Anime Limited seem to be doing alright so the business model must work, could be good.
 
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