Homophobia: Acceptable or just plain Childish?

[MrChom]

As far as I'm concerned what other people do behind closed doors is no business of mine and never will be unless they choose to ram it in my face. I'm no more opposed to gay people than I am to any other subset of people...except possibly The French...but that's another matter.

As long as people respect my right to my choices in life (which are shockingly mundane) then I'm good with that.

I've lived with men, women, gay people, straight people, black white, chinese, religious, non-religious, people who worship at the altar of Dawkins, and I've even had tea at the home of a devoted BNP supporting Satanist (we had a chat about him getting married, and then talked about if he was getting new curtains or not). At the end of the day people are just people and you either all learn to get along or it's a slow road to blowing each other up, frankly.

Admittedly I do draw lines, anyone who wants to say what they say to cause TROUBLE is another matter entirely. Like the American religious sect that goes to funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq and protest about the *ahem* "Faggot War", or the blatant anti-muslim sentiments of some of the more well known journalists and politicians in this country.

Dammit, dangerously close to going into rant mode again....

 

[Tachi]

+1 Redundant Thread.

I'm a bit worried about all the gay topics on this forum these days. Cant you people find more interesting topics to talk about.

Apparently not.

Heck, the shaving thread and biscuit thread are more interesting.

The shaving thread is benefitial, gives a understanding of peoples shaving habits and womens views on ideal guys facial hair.

THe biscuit thread is benefitial to all those seeking the ultimate biscuit, gives people a chance to talk about day-to-day things and is a calm, none violent, laid back thread.

 

[chaos]

THe biscuit thread is benefitial to all those seeking the ultimate biscuit, gives people a chance to talk about day-to-day things and is a calm, none violent, laid back thread.

Untill we started to talk about coffee or tea... ;D

 

[Tachi]

THe biscuit thread is benefitial to all those seeking the ultimate biscuit, gives people a chance to talk about day-to-day things and is a calm, none violent, laid back thread.

Untill we started to talk about coffee or tea... ;D

Hey a spoof of mgs4 *we must watch our caffeine intake*

plus its alot easier to know what will wake you up quicker....coffee or tea

 

[Kezwick_Osaka]

I personally think homophobia is no different than other forms of discrimination like racism or sexism.

It's terrible and wrong, but at the same time, you can't get away from it.

My town must be the most racist and homophobic area in Britain, which I hate. D:

 

[shira]

As far as I'm concerned what other people do behind closed doors is no business of mine and never will be unless they choose to ram it in my face.

"Behind closed doors" being the most important part. From experience, around here, you see more gay people making out than you do straight. I dont really have a PROBLEM with gay people, but I just dont wanna see em getting off infront of me, equally I dont like straight people doing the same, but I find it more with gay people, tbh.

And, there are quiet alot of people who will ram it in your face, because from experience alot of gay people like to make a big song and dance about it.

Note: Before someone pounces on me for that, I did say From Experience...

 

[MrChom]

As far as I'm concerned what other people do behind closed doors is no business of mine and never will be unless they choose to ram it in my face.

"Behind closed doors" being the most important part. From experience, around here, you see more gay people making out than you do straight. I dont really have a PROBLEM with gay people, but I just dont wanna see em getting off infront of me, equally I dont like straight people doing the same, but I find it more with gay people, tbh.

And, there are quiet alot of people who will ram it in your face, because from experience alot of gay people like to make a big song and dance about it.

Note: Before someone pounces on me for that, I did say From Experience...

I find the phrase "GET A ROOM!" appropriate for all make-out sessions regardless of the participants' gender.

 

[CitizenGeek]

And, there are quiet alot of people who will ram it in your face, because from experience alot of gay people like to make a big song and dance about it.

Not really. Straight people talk about their romantic relationships, their sex lives, what kind of qualities they like in the opposite sex etc. But when gay men do it, they are shoving it in your face and making "a big song and dance about it". It's not really fair, but I suppose there will always be some straight guys who are too immature to deal with homosexuality.

Another example of this inherent unfairness is how people complain about the obscenity on display at certain Pride parades. Yet Mardi Gras in New Orleans (a straight event) is centred entirely on sex and obscene-ness, as are many Spring Break festivals and stuff like that but no one complains there. People complain about gay men being promiscuous as if it never happens among straight men and women (which is does; I've lost count of the number of teenage pregnancies in my town, or the number of relationships ruined by promiscuity). Or how about when people complain about "cruising" when the straight equivalent of "dogging" is even more widespread. Honestly, I don't get it :s

 

[Tachi]

And, there are quiet alot of people who will ram it in your face, because from experience alot of gay people like to make a big song and dance about it.

Not really. Straight people talk about their romantic relationships, their sex lives, what kind of qualities they like in the opposite sex etc. But when gay men do it, they are shoving it in your face and making "a big song and dance about it". It's not really fair, but I suppose there will always be some straight guys who are too immature to deal with homosexuality.

Come on mate, he was just making a opinion and he did say thats what he'd learnt from experience, he isn't being offensive. he's just stating a general thing thats in his town. you shouldn't feel offended or get annoyed by it, because in truth there's no connection between you and the statement. so he is mature.

 

[CitizenGeek]

My point was a general one, not specifically aimed at Spyro201. I don't know if the gays where he lives are in actuality overbearing and somehow different to gay people everywhere else. I wouldn't be too surprised if the immature unfairness I described in how straight sexuality and gay sexuality are processed by too many straight guys was to blame for his opinion, though.

 

[shira]

My point was a general one, not specifically aimed at Spyro201. I don't know if the gays where he lives are in actuality overbearing and somehow different to gay people everywhere else. I wouldn't be too surprised if the immature unfairness I described in how straight sexuality and gay sexuality are processed by too many straight guys was to blame for his opinion, though.

The gays around my area just shove it in your face by acting way to camp for my liking, and making persistant jokes about how they take it up the ass. I dont wanna know, really, and I dont want them flirting with me, or making gay ass jokes. Period.

As Tachi- pointed out, this is merely from experience.

 

[CitizenGeek]

The gays around my area just shove it in your face by acting way to camp for my liking, and making persistant jokes about how they take it up the ass. I dont wanna know, really, and I dont want them flirting with me, or making gay ass jokes. Period.

The gay men that are "camp" are not putting on an "act"; it's genuinely who they are.

Lots and lots of straight guys joke all the time about sex, usually in graphic detail. Do you have a problem with that?

Honestly, I think you're just being biased and unfair. So at least admit that, rather than trying to build a legitimate case against the evils of gay men. There's nothing that gay people do that straight people don't in one way or another.

 

[shira]

The gays around my area just shove it in your face by acting way to camp for my liking, and making persistant jokes about how they take it up the ass. I dont wanna know, really, and I dont want them flirting with me, or making gay ass jokes. Period.

The gay men that are "camp" are not putting on an "act"; it's genuinely who they are.

Lots and lots of straight guys joke all the time about sex, usually in graphic detail. Do you have a problem with that?

Honestly, I think you're just being biased and unfair. So at least admit that, rather than trying to build a legitimate case against the evils of gay men. There's nothing that gay people do that straight people don't in one way or another.

But straight men dont joke all the time about sex. Thats the point. Being a bisexual, I really cant give a **** what goes on behind closed doors, its just the "Camp" people genuinly are annoying. If its genuinly a case of who they are, then they are a pain in the arse (No pun intended).

 

[Ammish]

The gays around my area just shove it in your face by acting way to camp for my liking, and making persistant jokes about how they take it up the ass. I dont wanna know, really, and I dont want them flirting with me, or making gay ass jokes. Period.

The gay men that are "camp" are not putting on an "act"; it's genuinely who they are.

Lots and lots of straight guys joke all the time about sex, usually in graphic detail. Do you have a problem with that?

Honestly, I think you're just being biased and unfair. So at least admit that, rather than trying to build a legitimate case against the evils of gay men. There's nothing that gay people do that straight people don't in one way or another.

But straight men dont joke all the time about sex.

And so do not Gays/Lesbians.

There are people who brag about their sex life that much. It happens with a certain amount of people.

I mean... why are you complaining about that?! There are teenagers who - most like 95% not likely- shout out to the world that sex is great, I slept with 6 girls etc. I find that more annoying and cringeworthy than sex life from a man or a gay/lesbian.

You are using your bad experience with gays and treating as if 'all' gays are like that. The reality however is directly the opposite.

 

[shira]

The gays around my area just shove it in your face by acting way to camp for my liking, and making persistant jokes about how they take it up the ass. I dont wanna know, really, and I dont want them flirting with me, or making gay ass jokes. Period.

The gay men that are "camp" are not putting on an "act"; it's genuinely who they are.

Lots and lots of straight guys joke all the time about sex, usually in graphic detail. Do you have a problem with that?

Honestly, I think you're just being biased and unfair. So at least admit that, rather than trying to build a legitimate case against the evils of gay men. There's nothing that gay people do that straight people don't in one way or another.

But straight men dont joke all the time about sex.

And so do not Gays/Lesbians.

There are people who brag about their sex life that much. It happens with a certain amount of people.

I mean... why are you complaining about that?! There are teenagers who - most like 95% not likely- shout out to the world that sex is great, I slept with 6 girls etc. I find that more annoying and cringeworthy than sex life from a man or a gay/lesbian.

You are using your bad experience with gays and treating as if 'all' gays are like that. The reality however is directly the opposite.

No. I know not all gays are like that. Im saying from experience though. Because this seems to be quite one sided as if all gays/lesbians are perfect, or so its looking. All this talk about "oh but gay people dont brag about thier sex lives", well they do, cause I've heard enough about it.

 

[chaos]

Lots and lots of straight guys joke all the time about sex, usually in graphic detail. Do you have a problem with that?

Yes. I've never liked jokes with explicit sexual content. They tend to be rude, too sexist or both. But how explicit can you be is exactly like temperature, everyone has their own measures for it.

 

[Kurogane]

And, there are quiet alot of people who will ram it in your face, because from experience alot of gay people like to make a big song and dance about it.

Not really. Straight people talk about their romantic relationships, their sex lives, what kind of qualities they like in the opposite sex etc. But when gay men do it, they are shoving it in your face and making "a big song and dance about it". It's not really fair, but I suppose there will always be some straight guys who are too immature to deal with homosexuality.

Another example of this inherent unfairness is how people complain about the obscenity on display at certain Pride parades. Yet Mardi Gras in New Orleans (a straight event) is centred entirely on sex and obscene-ness, as are many Spring Break festivals and stuff like that but no one complains there. People complain about gay men being promiscuous as if it never happens among straight men and women (which is does; I've lost count of the number of teenage pregnancies in my town, or the number of relationships ruined by promiscuity). Or how about when people complain about "cruising" when the straight equivalent of "dogging" is even more widespread. Honestly, I don't get it :s

Ever been to the gay village, or any gay bar?

Every male that goes into one will get hit on, and it won't even be a subtle come on-- everyone there is just one horny mother******.

Plus, I've heard this from members of the gay community aswell, so it speaks more truth than you'd like to believe.

 

[eggybob]

Every male that goes into one will get hit on, and it won't even be a subtle come on.

1) If a gay person chatted me up i'd take it as a compliment.

2.) Immature reply alert!!!!! errrrr, come on.

 

[shira]

Every male that goes into one will get hit on, and it won't even be a subtle come on.

1) If a gay person chatted me up i'd take it as a compliment.

2.) Immature reply alert!!!!! errrrr, come on.

1) Why would you take it as a compliment??

2) Time to face facts.

 

[eggybob]

Every male that goes into one will get hit on, and it won't even be a subtle come on.

1) If a gay person chatted me up i'd take it as a compliment.

2.) Immature reply alert!!!!! errrrr, come on.

1) Why would you take it as a compliment??

2) Time to face facts.

If a woman chatted you up in a bar, would you take it as a compliment? You would because they find you attractive. Same sorta thing here.