General anime thoughts/discussion thread.

vashdaman said:
Hold the phone! I no longer have a Crunchyroll subscription, I just went to the site a sampled streaming something. It seems that my adblock program is blocking CR advertisements. Genius. Why did no one tell me of this!? Sure, I no longer have that cute little "exclusive stream for Vashdaman" thing, but I can live without that.
If you're leeching Crunchyroll's bandwidth and not contributing any ad revenue to them or the licensor, it would be more beneficial for you just to watch fansubs.

Rui said:
Crunchyroll commissions its own subtitles (or uses existing ones). I don't believe they do them in house - Quarkboy's subtitling company in Japan has definitely done work for them before, and it's obvious that different shows are done by different subtitling companies, with variations in style, formatting and rendering of names. There was even a protracted debate on the topic of honourifics when one of their subtitling partners (MxMedia if you want to Google) changed their policies.
Crunchyroll bought MX Media from Ken Hoinsky (aka Tofusensei) ages ago. Quarkboy does subtitles for the licensors who sometimes provide them to Crunchyroll (and in the case of Fate/Zero, Sam did the subtitles for Nico Nico and Crunchyroll did their own, different subtitles). Crunchyroll subtitling staff include Laura Wyrick and Adam Lensenmayer.

Joshawott said:
If I remember correctly, Puella Magi Madoka Magica was never available for legal streaming in the UK.
IIRC there were a few episodes available for a limited period on NicoNico to promote the dub.
 
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If you're leeching Crunchyroll's bandwidth and not contributing any ad revenue to them or the licensor, it would be more beneficial for you just to watch fansubs.

I don't even think I really know what bandwidth is.
 
vashdaman said:
If you're leeching Crunchyroll's bandwidth and not contributing any ad revenue to them or the licensor, it would be more beneficial for you just to watch fansubs.

I don't even think I really know what bandwidth is.

I've no intent to try and define the term, but they are sending you data, which costs them money (companies don't get the same kind of deals private individuals do) and your not contributing anything back by blocking the ads. Worse still that data they are sending to you could instead be sent to another user who is contributing to ad revenue or has a subscription.
 
It's the great dilemma of the new wave of internet media and streaming. The full debate is way too long, and involves a multitude of things (read up on everything involving Spotify to get an idea) but it essentially boils down to "How do you monetise streaming video?" . Crunchyroll uses two approaches, premium subscription video, and ad-supported free streaming. I'm not certain of the exact details, but companies will pay them (or the advert delivery service they use) to place their ads. Naturally the more eyeballs there are per ads, the more Crunchyroll gets paid in theory. Thus they can support free streaming of their shows.

Of course, lately advertising on the net has been getting more aggressive. As Commissioner Gordon puts it at the end of Batman Begins, it's all about "escalation". They use pop-ups, we respond with pop-up blockers. They launch resource-hogging video ads wrapped around websites, we use Adblock. I'm not sure there'll ever be a solution. Personally, I lost my patience for horrible video ads last year when they really started slowing down my computer. I've had a few dodgy adverts try and put malware on my laptop too, so now I use Adblock on the most egregious offenders (looking at you Eurogamer!).

But yeah, the adverts are there on Crunchyroll for a reason. Personally, I prefer the subscription based model, which is why I like Netflix and Crunchyroll's subscription service.
 
Cheers Ath. But are you certain that Crunchyroll (or the ad companies that pay them) knows I'm not seeing those ads, and doesn't think I've just sat through them all? And is this particularly different from changing TV channels during the ad break? Because bloody hell, if none of you do that, your more principled than God.
 
I'm fairly sure they can. Some websites will give you a little message if you've got AdBlock on, asking you to turn it off to support the site.

It's a hotly debated topic for a reason. I fast forward through adverts on everything I've Sky+'d when it comes to TV, and on Youtube I'll skip the advert if I'm given the option, unless the advert grabs my attention. I can imagine that people have less tolerance for ad breaks on what is essentially "on-demand" video, I know I certainly do. Which is why new methods of creative internet advertising are so valuable now! A couple of my friends work in that field, and they've come up with some really funky proposals for creative video advertising methods.
 
Adblock stops the ads being downloaded, as opposed to just covering them up, so yes, they can tell you're using it. I've whitelisted a few sites which I want to support and who have unobtrusive advertising. YouTube can f*** off if they think I'm going to sit through a 30 second ad at the beginning of every video.
 
Hey I started watching oreimo and I think this series should go with

Welcome to the nhk and genshiken.

They seem realistic in there subjects in socialising and what otaku is al about ect ect an To be honest I like it it's going next to them because they are similar.
 
The first season of Oreimo and the OVAs definitely surpassed my expectations, I thought it was a very intelligent and witty series about family and otaku. Alas it became obvious later on that I completely misjudged what the series was actually intended to be. It'll be interesting to hear what you think of the rest of the show.

Welcome to the NHK remains one of my all-time favourite anime. It really struck a chord with me when I first watched it, and it remains just as insightful each time I rewatch it. Absolutely perfect ending too. I want to read the original novel one day to see how it compares (I've read the manga, I thought it was decent but not as strong as the anime).
 
Ath said:
The first season of Oreimo and the OVAs definitely surpassed my expectations, I thought it was a very intelligent and witty series about family and otaku. Alas it became obvious later on that I completely misjudged what the series was actually intended to be. It'll be interesting to hear what you think of the rest of the show.

Welcome to the NHK remains one of my all-time favourite anime. It really struck a chord with me when I first watched it, and it remains just as insightful each time I rewatch it. Absolutely perfect ending too. I want to read the original novel one day to see how it compares (I've read the manga, I thought it was decent but not as strong as the anime).

Spoken like a true anime fan ^_^

So far it's good
 
vashdaman said:
Cheers Ath. But are you certain that Crunchyroll (or the ad companies that pay them) knows I'm not seeing those ads, and doesn't think I've just sat through them all? And is this particularly different from changing TV channels during the ad break? Because bloody hell, if none of you do that, your more principled than God.

They know you've seen them if they've been downloaded/transferred to your PC, you block them = they aren't being downloaded and therefore they don't pay what ever fraction of a penny/pound they would of otherwise to Cruncyroll.
 
May I try and justify myself by saying that I paid for like nearly a year of Crunchyroll subscription without watching it once? And if not, I did say it was an evil genius manoeuvre after all.
 
20thCenturyBoy said:
Reading this article on ANN and had never heard of the show Monsuno before. Anyone watched any of it? Is it decent, for what it is (a toy marketing show)?

I recognise the name somewhere.... that's right it was available on iTunes. I haven't seen it in case you're wondering.
 
NormanicGrav said:
20thCenturyBoy said:
Reading this article on ANN and had never heard of the show Monsuno before. Anyone watched any of it? Is it decent, for what it is (a toy marketing show)?

I recognise the name somewhere.... that's right it was available on iTunes. I haven't seen it in case you're wondering.
I'm sure i've seen it around on Citv as well.
 
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