Full Metal Panic Discussion

Thats the idea, however. Its why the AS units in FMP can be deemed "real mecha" instead of super. They are designed not to be Over the top super awesomely powerful, but to appear more like the next stage up in the military to your general tanks and such. Of course, there will be units like the Arbalest with greater technology, in series revolving around mecha, thats generally a no brainer, but it still has a sense of realism, and thats what makes them more appealing to me.
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Oh no I can understand why some might prefer it. Just i'm not so keen on how it operates. Basically tries to mimic the pilots movements. On Code Geass it was programmed from a 'Control Panel' style thingymajigy.

To be fair most giant robots have the humanoid appearance, plus from what i've seen on MAHQ FMP mecha >>>> Code Geass Mecha. I like the styling of the FMP stuff
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Again, thats inevitable but, I did say "Too" human. I prefer something a bit more 'Ridgid' I guess. The Code Geass mecha are very much formed in blocks, whereas the FMP mecha seems more curved into a humans stature. Code Geass, though humanoid in appearance, still looks very 'chunky'.
 
Okay so i just thought i would post my thoughts about Fumoffu since i've just finished it. When i first heard about it i wasn't sure i mean i liked the first series a lot because of its mixed elements and i thought the mecha parts were nicely done, so a series of FMP that throws out all those parts seemed strange to me. However fast forward a few years and i finally fork out for it and watch it. I loved it, the comedy was quite well done, and had me laughing out loud, something that only Excel Saga managed till now.

Quite a few of the eps stand out to me, the ruby ep in particular Sousuke's turn as a drill sargant and the resulting rugby match then there was the ones with Bounta-Kun in them, seeing a teddy bear like mascot take down Yakuza is something i could never get tired of seeing :p

Still got the Second Raid ahead of me like to watch and i've heard of the shift in tone...
 
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BlackWolf said:
Quite a few of the eps stand out to me, the ruby ep in particular Sousuke's turn as a drill sargant and the resulting rugby match
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Thats one of my picks from Fumoffu too, along with the one where the captain stays with Sousuke who nearly has a nervous breakdown as a result. Practically had me gasping for breath from laughter.
 
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I've got into the FMP franchise in the wrong order.

The first series I've seen was Fumoffu. The comedy elements of it was so funny, that I couldn't stop laughing while watching it. At fist I thought I'd get tired of the "Sousuke does something, Kaname punishes him" format in the first few eps, but the situations presented in the show kept it fresh for its whole duration.

Then, I moved to FMP Overload. While it was decent enough, it wasn't funny as fumoffu. The comedy in it went over the top all the time, so even though it had some good moments, it didn't live up to the expectations I had after Fumoffu.

Next, I've read the FMP manga. I particularly like them very much as they are a retelling of the FMP and Fumoffu anime series. This manga was particularly great, as it showed me the action side of FMP, which I didn't see until then.

Last but not least, I've got me the original FMP series. As I've read the manga, I knew a lot of the plot in advance, so I focused on everything else. Gonzo once again shows their technical expertise. Give them a great story and they animate it beautifully.

I believe my next steps in this series is going to be either the second raid or the light novels.

From what I've seen so far, I can say that with the exception of overload, everything FMP is awesome.
 
chaos said:
I've got into the FMP franchise in the wrong order.

The first series I've seen was Fumoffu. The comedy elements of it was so funny, that I couldn't stop laughing while watching it. At fist I thought I'd get tired of the "Sousuke does something, Kaname punishes him" format in the first few eps, but the situations presented in the show kept it fresh for its whole duration.

Then, I moved to FMP Overload. While it was decent enough, it wasn't funny as fumoffu. The comedy in it went over the top all the time, so even though it had some good moments, it didn't live up to the expectations I had after Fumoffu.

Next, I've read the FMP manga. I particularly like them very much as they are a retelling of the FMP and Fumoffu anime series. This manga was particularly great, as it showed me the action side of FMP, which I didn't see until then.

Last but not least, I've got me the original FMP series. As I've read the manga, I knew a lot of the plot in advance, so I focused on everything else. Gonzo once again shows their technical expertise. Give them a great story and they animate it beautifully.

I believe my next steps in this series is going to be either the second raid or the light novels.

From what I've seen so far, I can say that with the exception of overload, everything FMP is awesome.
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Thats quite a strange order but there we go. I know that Overload has nothing really to do with the proper FMP series(at least from what i've read here and there) So i never expected it to be as good really. However, i didn't mind the original manga so much, its just that, in comparison to the anime, it doesn't feel anywhere as good. I will at least give it this much, it does cover one or two of the other short stories i believe, so it gets a thumbs up for that.
If you where to take my advise on it, i'd go for TSR next then start getting the light novels. The only thing you will have a hard time finding in that respect though is the third light novel Into The Blue as from what i can tell, its out of print for some reason. I'm still hoping End of Day by Day upper and lower novels get a release sooner rather than later =/
 
whoa, quite an ask there. Erm in english at present there is three, and all Tokyopop has released is the main story novels. In order they are:

Fighting Boy Meets Girl
One Night Stand
Into the Blue

These are the novels which the first series of FMP is based off of, and as such, more or less the same for the Original Manga series. Beyond that, i'm expecting Tokyopop to release the rest of the main story novels when they can, but as for the Short Story novels, thats another question. What i can do though, if you are at least interested in the order in which they where all released, is find how many there is in total(i think 21) and write out the full order here. If you planned on getting the japanese novels, keep in mind some of the older ones will be hard to get.

If you interested in the novels The Second Raid is based off of, those are:

End of Day by Day upper novel
End of Day by Day lower novel

Both of which should be the next ones to get released by Tokyopop.
 
I have the boxset of the entire first series and I absolutely adored it.

I really liked the way in which it was like two completely different anime genres put into one. There was the fun 'slice of life' feeling to it where it was all comedy and school life, and then there was the serious mecha plot with blood and guns; both genres of which I like. It was a bit like Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu and Gun X Sword put into one anime and I just found it really clever how they made the atmosphere of the entire anime change when nearing the end.

I really would like to purchase the collection of the second series too, although at the moment it is just too much pennys. I saw a trailer which just made me want to get it more, but I am quite restricted in terms of gil. But I assure you that I will, one day, have it in my posession.
 
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I really would like to purchase the collection of the second series too, although at the moment it is just too much pennys. I saw a trailer which just made me want to get it more, but I am quite restricted in terms of gil. But I assure you that I will, one day, have it in my posession.
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Assuming you are talking about The Second Raid, i ordered that today from up1, can't wait ^_^ If you can get fumoffu then you won't regret it although it lacks all the mecha parts to focus on the comedy
 
BlackWolf said:
Amray said:
I really would like to purchase the collection of the second series too, although at the moment it is just too much pennys. I saw a trailer which just made me want to get it more, but I am quite restricted in terms of gil. But I assure you that I will, one day, have it in my posession.
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Assuming you are talking about The Second Raid, i ordered that today from up1, can't wait ^_^ If you can get fumoffu then you won't regret it although it lacks all the mecha parts to focus on the comedy
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Indeed. The trailer of which I mentioned showed no mecha clips at all. Nonetheless I would still love to have it. I think that I would enjoy such an anime. When I finished watching the first series one of the things that I thought of were "Amazing. Beautiful! It would have been decent if they based a few more episodes on comedy and school life, like the first four or so episodes". Surely enough, Fumoffu seems to fulfill that small desire.
 
Amray said:
It was a bit like Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu and Gun X Sword put into one anime
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Are you kidding me? Haruhi Suzumiya? You do realise FMP was broadcast back in 2002 and Haruhi Suzumiya in 2005, right? And just what from FMP resembles anything from Haruhi Suzumiya? Please don't say the school life comedy, because 80% of anime are high school comedy.
 
Maxon said:
Amray said:
It was a bit like Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu and Gun X Sword put into one anime
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Are you kidding me? Haruhi Suzumiya? You do realise FMP was broadcast back in 2002 and Haruhi Suzumiya in 2005, right? And just what from FMP resembles anything from Haruhi Suzumiya? Please don't say the school life comedy, because 80% of anime are high school comedy.
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I knew that somebody would quote me on that one sentence, I knew it. Yes I do know when each anime was broadcast...but what of it? Does it matter which one was made or shown first? I would not think so as this was a personal opinion, and a small example of my thoughts. Some scenes from Full Metal Panic somewhat reminded me of Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu, probably because they both scenes of school comedy but with twisted plots added to them, such as being test subjects and time travellers.

80% of anime series' are school comedies......? If that actually were the case then what of it? Just because a lot of anime these days are about the lives of school students, that does not mean that I should be asked to restrict using the term. Also, sections of Full Metal Panic ARE that of a school comedy. It was how it was made and what type of atmosphere the anime was supposed to give its viewers....a mix of two of Japans most favourite genres together to produce something "different", being epic and serious yet at the same time fun and humourus. Whether you like to hear the specified term or not is of no concern to me, I am just simply stating it how it is.
 
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I knew that somebody would quote me on that one sentence, I knew it. Yes I do know when each anime was broadcast...but what of it? Does it matter which one was made or shown first? I would not think so as this was a personal opinion, and a small example of my thoughts. Some scenes from Full Metal Panic somewhat reminded me of Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu, probably because they both scenes of school comedy but with twisted plots added to them, such as being test subjects and time travellers.
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So no other high school comedy has a twisted plot? I'm still waiting for you to give a real answer (i.e. one that doesn't pertain to the wacky high school antics present in many anime).

The point of my question was to point out that using "wacky high school comedy" is not a valid reason for comparison. Using your logic, I could say FMP was like Girls Bravo (my most hated anime).
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80% of anime series' are school comedies......? If that actually were the case then what of it? Just because a lot of anime these days are about the lives of school students, that does not mean that I should be asked to restrict using the term. Also, sections of Full Metal Panic ARE that of a school comedy. It was how it was made and what type of atmosphere the anime was supposed to give its viewers....a mix of two of Japans most favourite genres together to produce something "different", being epic and serious yet at the same time fun and humourus. Whether you like to hear the specified term or not is of no concern to me, I am just simply stating it how it is.
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I'm not asking you to restrict yourself from using the term, so this little speech was totally pointless. I simply asked why you would even compare Haruhi and FMP, which you already explained poorly in the first paragraph. Oh, and don't try to educate me on FMP. I'm aware of what FMP is and what makes it good (and I'm not talking about superficial things like scenarios).

Also, stop being condescending with your smug "What of it?" lines.
 
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The point of my question was to point out that using "wacky high school comedy" is not a valid reason for comparison. Using your logic, I could say FMP was like Girls Bravo (my most hated anime).
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If the scenes which are set in school on Full Metal Panic do not represent that of a "school comedy", then please enlighten me on what they do present. Because walking in female changing rooms and getting beaten up for it, jumping out of train windows and stating that "It was a coincidence, I wanted to get off at this station", and taking out the teacher by slamming into her, taking her down a flight of stairs, is not "school comedy", then please, do tell me what is. Because for as far as I am aware, none of those few scenes are exactly "mecha" like the rest of the majority of the series is. I do not care if you do not like school comedys, that is what those scenes are supposed to present. Just because you want to blank that fact because you have some sad little opposition towards slice of life school anime's does not mean that this is not the case with regards to this anime.

I'm not asking you to restrict yourself from using the term, so this little speech was totally pointless. I simply asked why you would even compare Haruhi and FMP, which you already explained poorly in the first paragraph. Oh, and don't try to educate me on FMP. I'm aware of what FMP is and what makes it good (and I'm not talking about superficial things like scenarios).
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Educate you? Oh no sir I am doing no such thing, although I can see that it may appear that way. But just because you have an avatar of Chidori does not at all mean that you are some expert of the anime, which clearly you are not as you cannot decipher the difference between mecha and slice of life...which is what the director of this anime was aiming for..to mix both different genres together to make something "unique". Your previous post clearly implys "don't call FMP a "school life" anime, because I don't like them", even though few scenes from the anime are clearly what it is. Therefore telling me that you were not implying for me to restrict myself from using the term is complete rubbish. What is more is that I have answered your question with regards to comparing FMP with Haruhi, you are just clearly refusing to grasp why I stated that. I know both animes well and know why I stated it too. There is no special meaning to that one sentence.

I am also assuming that you have never seen Gun X Sword either. So when I state "It is a bit like Haruhi and Gun X Sword put together", it is because Haruhi is based in a school with serious yet strange occurances happening around them (like FMP, as it is not everyday that your local school is blown up after a 17 commander and her 17 sergeant are trapped in a school, guarding a terrorist that has not even reached puberty yet, just like it is not very believable that you have a time traveller in your class or a girl that controls space and time), and then the Gun X Sword comes in as it is a serious mecha anime with an amazing plot.

OH!! My My!! So what do we have? An anime based little about the school life and more of a girl with mysterious knowledge, passed, and powers (does that sound familiar to FMP? ....Yes! Chidori!), added with a serious mecha anime with a very well planned plot, decent explosions, and awesome characters....put one and one together and what do we get...!? A serious mecha anime mixed with eveyday school comedy.......MY GOD....JUST LIKE FULL METAL FRIKKIN' PANIC!!!

Also, stop being condescending with your smug "What of it?" lines.
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I speak like this in real life, and I type how I would say things in reality. So if you have a problem with my upbringing based on my dialect then just deal with it. If not then just simply do not read my posts. Common sense.
 
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