dont you just hate it when.........

Rui said:
Why is a girl wanting revenge any different from a guy wanting revenge? What about a girl who is a tomboy?
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Or even a guy who happens to be a character from Otokonoko wa Maid-fuku ga Osuki!?. Actually, that might be the one that sits the least right in the "coming after you in revenge" stakes.

But yes, I agree with the "what does gender have to do with the legitimacy of revenge" side.
 
Yes, but why aren't women allowed to get stung by satisfyingly crushing the object of their hatred yet men are? I'm not getting it. Is it because you want to protect females from the harsh reality of the world? It seems sort of sexist :s

R
 
Rui said:
Yes, but why aren't women allowed to get stung by satisfyingly crushing the object of their hatred yet men are? I'm not getting it. Is it because you want to protect females from the harsh reality of the world? It seems sort of sexist :s

R
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its not that im sexiest but the reason why i dont think women shouldn't have revenge is that.........................there more scary then men when it comes to revenge iv seen the look in there eyes in reality and the anime version which is just as scary. never ever be on the end of a woman's wrath.
they say women are stronger, wiser ( not including thatcher) and know what buttons to press to get what they want. also yes because i want to protect females from the harsh reality of the world.
when guys want revenge it doesn't seem to scary but when women want revenge i go * im outa here*
 
Hey with the right mix of overpowering confidence, manipulation skills and if needs be physical dominance anyone can get what they want. Not just women lol

I agree with Rui its a tad sexist, though they might be trying to preserve an illusion that women are weaker and thus are more timid, fragile and unable to perform vengance on anyone.

If memory serves, Perfect Blue is a great example of a woman getting down and dirty and killing stalkers. Revvy from Black lagoon - infact most women characters in clack lagoon are headstrong and able to inflict damage on others, Princess mononoke another one, So there are women characters out there who are strong and able to get through life without having to sit in the corner and not getting revenge.
 
thats it i finally resolved my issue.
this is going to sound funny but
i think its fear of being overpowered or manipulated by strong women maybe thats it or maybe its that i dont want to be heart broken maybe.
........................ i think i need to see a therapist i might have issue
or maybe its has something to do with my blood dad ( i hate him )
 
Anyone can legitimately seek revenge regardless of gender, it just depends what the revenge is in retaliation to. I hope I can say without sounding sexist (I'm really, really not as anyone who's known me for long enough will attest) that I have noticed a lot of women take perceived slights altogether too personally and want to punish people disproportionately who may not have meant any harm. As Rui said:

Rui said:
From my experience girls tend to hold grudges and seek revenge more than guys do in general, so it's probably best to get used to it.
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See, I don't quite know what that's about, but it's not something I've ever noticed in men. Not that I would deny that men as a whole have plenty of negative traits as well, but those negative traits are different for each gender. At least, for those who conform to their gender stereotype they're different. Some men have the more "female" traits and some women have the more "male" traits, but these are in the minority. Which personally, I consider unfortunate.

I... I have to do it. Sorry.

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Animefreak, I think it's quite common for people to be intimidated by powerful women. If you can admit that that's the cause of your preference, that's ok (though I still disagree with it). Women really aren't any different from men aside from some superficial nicknacks.

ayase said:
See, I don't quite know what that's about, but it's not something I've ever noticed in men.
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To give my view from the flip side on this one (I don't conform to many female stereotypes, but I definitely have the vengeance instinct!) it's maddening when I fall out with someone then they forget about it the next day and act like nothing has happened. I understand that it's the stereotypical 'guy' thing to do, and I also understand that it's not actually forced and they genuinely seem able to calmly move on from the spat without missing a beat. But for me, until the actual cause of the original problem is ferreted out and resolved I will harbour the grudge forever.

Forever.

I could change the behaviour if I wanted, but I see it as truly important to have the root problem resolved to prevent more hassle from it happening again, so I indulge the seething rage element in order to bring that about. It is most strange how none of my friends feel the same way. Fortunately so long as both sides are aware of the other's stance it doesn't cause problems. I've noticed the same attitude as mine in a few men, but it does seem quite oddly to be mostly split by gender overall. More so than most things.

Have I mentioned often how much I love Jigoku Shoujo/Hell Girl?

R
 
Rui said:
...it's maddening when I fall out with someone then they forget about it the next day and act like nothing has happened. I understand that it's the stereotypical 'guy' thing to do, and I also understand that it's not actually forced and they genuinely seem able to calmly move on from the spat without missing a beat. But for me, until the actual cause of the original problem is ferreted out and resolved I will harbour the grudge forever.

...I see it as truly important to have the root problem resolved to prevent more hassle from it happening again...
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An important thing to do, *if* the falling out is of such a serious magnitude that it threatens people's relationships with each other that they otherwise value. Most day to day arguments however have little deeper cause than the aggressor's current emotional state. I've certainly developed the attitude (no longer vocalised, as I've found that escalates matters) of "you're pissed off for no good reason and are directing that at me. Fine. I'll just sit here and take it, then forget about it because you weren't *really* pissed off at me." If someone really is pissed off at me then yes, have at you. If you've got something to say let's sort this out. But in those instances the argument usually comes to some sort of conclusion.

I don't really understand how things like grudges develop in the context of personal relationships. I just stop associating with people I don't get along with. Once they're not around any more they cease to be a problem. Yeah, if someone kneecapped me and left me to die in an burning warehouse I'd want revenge. Otherwise... not so much.
 
i just dont like people hurting other people. i just feel really sad when people harm others, even if that someone isn't the nicest person in the world.

i also can't stand it when people are isolated or have isolated them selfs from others if its cause others have ridiculed and hurt that person for who they are (for the person they are).

hurting others are wrong i wish no harm to others or others to harm others people
 
ayase said:
An important thing to do, *if* the falling out is of such a serious magnitude that it threatens people's relationships with each other that they otherwise value. Most day to day arguments however have little deeper cause than the aggressor's current emotional state.
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Ah, I'm an extremely serious person, so I tend to classify things as extremely important more readily than might be desired ^^;

R
 
Rui said:
Animefreak, I think it's quite common for people to be intimidated by powerful women. If you can admit that that's the cause of your preference, that's ok (though I still disagree with it). Women really aren't any different from men aside from some superficial nicknacks.

ayase said:
See, I don't quite know what that's about, but it's not something I've ever noticed in men.
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To give my view from the flip side on this one (I don't conform to many female stereotypes, but I definitely have the vengeance instinct!) it's maddening when I fall out with someone then they forget about it the next day and act like nothing has happened. I understand that it's the stereotypical 'guy' thing to do, and I also understand that it's not actually forced and they genuinely seem able to calmly move on from the spat without missing a beat. But for me, until the actual cause of the original problem is ferreted out and resolved I will harbour the grudge forever.

Forever.

I could change the behaviour if I wanted, but I see it as truly important to have the root problem resolved to prevent more hassle from it happening again, so I indulge the seething rage element in order to bring that about. It is most strange how none of my friends feel the same way. Fortunately so long as both sides are aware of the other's stance it doesn't cause problems. I've noticed the same attitude as mine in a few men, but it does seem quite oddly to be mostly split by gender overall. More so than most things.

Have I mentioned often how much I love Jigoku Shoujo/Hell Girl?

R
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Daymn, lady; You scary! =P I sort of agree though, I like things to be resolved rather than ignored, but then I am a massive wuss and I cannot, literally CAN NOT, stand people being mad or even a little upset with me. I makes me feel bad.

If it's any consolation Animefreak I hated it when Nena Trinity from Gundam 00 wanted revenge, but that was more because she's a spiteful, heartless, selfish b****, not to mention hypocritical in the extreme for wanting revenge on the person who killed her family considering the **** she pulled than because she's female, I had ZERO qualms about Louise settling her score >=DDDDDD
 
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i just cant stand women being in pain is it wrong for me to say that.
revenge is a painful thing to go though.
when a guy wants revenge thats fine a guy can go on but women are more emotional and should be handled with love and care.

women are a temple of life and should be given love
 
Lawrence said:
But I am a man and I am the bringer of life, without me, no-one will ever knock on that temple door. I too feel emotion, do I not deserve the same love and care?
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i guess its me but iv always thought that women were more emotional then men.

its true you cant have a baby without both women and men but its women who carry them and bare the pain of child birth and its a pain that we men cant understand
 
animefreak17 said:
you cant have a baby without both women and men
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animefreak17 said:
i guess its me but iv always thought that women were more emotional then men.
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Culturally they show it more, but it's a bit patronising to want to protect all women just because a few are dramatic. If someone tried to handle me with love and care and protect me from the world it would just be irritating (imagine if you were a proud person and it happened to you >_>).

R
 
Rui said:
animefreak17 said:
i guess its me but iv always thought that women were more emotional then men.
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Culturally they show it more, but it's a bit patronising to want to protect all women just because a few are dramatic. If someone tried to handle me with love and care and protect me from the world it would just be irritating (imagine if you were a proud person and it happened to you >_>).

R
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On the other hand, I'd be quite happy for someone to protect me from the world :p
 
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