Don't go to pieces! Land of the Lustrous simulwatch (completed)

This episode made the master more endearing in my eyes. I'm still not ok with the series constantly brutalizing these characters but they all take it in stride, so who am I to say anything. I liked his show of affection and worry towards Phos and assume he isn't usually angry, otherwise the whole structure wouldn't exist anymore. I also liked the shot of him holding Bort, it says a bit more about him and I liked that.
Yeah totally. Everything this episode did with the Master was great. Hes such a drama queen, stomping in all for show! But he has a tenderness and cares for the gems wellbeing.

Something I forgot to mention was it's interesting how isolated Cinnabar makes themself. Like why not shout out to the others across the beach that Phos has washed ashore. Instead they maintain their isolation at all costs and drag Phos back to the empty school and allow the others to pointlessly search the sea and exhaust themselves. During the episode it really annoyed me but it does fit their character.
 
Just letting you guys know that I'm not sure I'll continue with this simulwatch as I really need to take care of my health right now and I want to make an easter diorama but I hope you all have a snail of a time :)
Dont worry about it. Health comes first. And if you come back to the show down the line you can always come back and post your thoughts even after the simulwatch is over.
 
Yeah totally. Everything this episode did with the Master was great. Hes such a drama queen, stomping in all for show! But he has a tenderness and cares for the gems wellbeing.

Something I forgot to mention was it's interesting how isolated Cinnabar makes themself. Like why not shout out to the others across the beach that Phos has washed ashore. Instead they maintain their isolation at all costs and drag Phos back to the empty school and allow the others to pointlessly search the sea and exhaust themselves. During the episode it really annoyed me but it does fit their character.
That did jump out to me too, the passage of time kind of makes me wonder if Cinnabar did it on purpose to spend more time with Phos? I'm not usually one to make these kinds of leaps, but it came to mind when writing the post...
Just letting you guys know that I'm not sure I'll continue with this simulwatch as I really need to take care of my health right now and I want to make an easter diorama but I hope you all have a snail of a time :)

Hey, we're counting on you for another simulwatch later down the road when you feel better! Get better soon, hope all goes well🙏
 
Episode 5
In this episode, Phos pays a high price for a pair of striped stockings, Octowaifu pays for her betrayal, and the lunarians pay for enslaving Kawaii Snailzilla-kun. It would have been a bloodbath if any of them had blood.

I'd forgotten how much damage Sensei does when he stomps around. I wonder if their home isn't actually that old, and they have to build a new one every time Sensei gets up on the wrong side of the meditation mat.

It's unsettling that we don't find out just how much Phos forgot when she lost her legs, but it's nice to see how joyful she is when her new legs start working.
 
Catching up with this first:

My most recent watch that scratched this itch was probably From the New World (Shinsekai Yori).
You know, I've lost count of the number of times I've been recommended that show now, so I need to start taking it seriously. I've added it to my list of MVM titles I want to buy, so thanks. 🙂👍


And on to episode 5. @João Gomes already mentioned how great that shot was of Phos being fished out of the sea (in a net, no less, which only emphasised her* helpless situation), and the series continues as strongly as we left off from last episode's cliffhanger.

By this point, I've become invested enough in Phos as a character as to feel a succession as different things as I watch, from sadness at her capture by the Lunarians, to horror at her getting broken, then pity during that scene where she washes ashore without her legs, relief at her being mended, and then annoyance as she risks breaking herself again after only just getting back on her feet! 😅
She's hard work, but I can't help but care now.

As delighted as I am at the unexpectedly positive outcome, why can't I shake the feeling that (and this is an awful thing to say) Phos not being left crippled by the loss of her original legs is only going to lead to even greater disaster and heartbreak?


*My girlfriend and I have developed the habit of calling Phos and the rest "she" as we watch the show, so...
 
First time viewer! Episode 5!

It was really nice to see all of the gem people pulling together in this episode to try and find Phos, going to great lengths to seek him out. I did laugh when they conjectured that perhaps Phos was taking his duty seriously with the encyclopaedia. Not a chance.

It seems that phosteps in the beach led to the discovery of where Phos went.

The exchange seemed to go badly, with the Lunarians gaining neither Phos, or any further promise of more captured gem people. I was kind of sad that Phos didn't go to the moon yet, but I am convinced we will see the moon at some point!

Seeing one eyed Phos on his back with no legs saying how he wanted to be useful and help his friends was the saddest I'd seen him, normally Phos is pretty upbeat.

Followed shortly after by Phos telling Cinnabar that he had failed to help him find a purpose even in the sea, and he had returned broken in the attempt.

The mystery of the cracks in the structure may well be solved, it turns out that the masters footsteps are heavy indeed when he's angry, and with Phos about he must get angry quite a lot!

Phos's new legs look pretty awesome! I think the new legs will help solve the problem of what Phos's new job could be, lets face it Phos, you weren't really cut out to write an encyclopaedia.

Side note: The Octowaifu is voiced by the same VA as Senjougahara from Monogatari in the JPN audio, I've missed hearing her so that makes me very happy!
 
Good call on the symbolism of the shot itself, @Neil.T, those kinds of things always go over my head, I feel obtuse ahah

In your and your girlfriend's defense (and in mine actually, because I end up doing the same thing), and as others have said earlier in the thread, some gems are clearly presented as more masculine and others as more feminine, while for others it feels more ambiguous.


"phosteps" I see you, @Lordhippos 👀
 
You know, I've lost count of the number of times I've been recommended that show now, so I need to start taking it seriously. I've added it to my list of MVM titles I want to buy, so thanks. 🙂👍
From the New World is a great show and would make a for a great simulwatch discussion.
By this point, I've become invested enough in Phos as a character as to feel a succession as different things as I watch,
This show does a lot right but making its cast endearing despite their flaws is one of it's best attributes.
 
In your and your girlfriend's defense (and in mine actually, because I end up doing the same thing), and as others have said earlier in the thread, some gems are clearly presented as more masculine and others as more feminine, while for others it feels more ambiguous.


"phosteps" I see you, @Lordhippos 👀

;)

I wonder how much of the ambiguity about whether they are male or female is on purpose. I am convinced that Dia is female, and Bort is male for instance. Cinnabar seems male to me also, but Phos I am not sure about. Seems more ambiguous. The subs I have always refer to Phos as a he but they may well be wrong.

I am not sure the ambiguity serves a real narrative purpose (that I have yet seen anyway), to the gem people the gender is probably unimportant I suppose.
 
Episode 5
Quite a lot happened here. The show certainly doesn't shy away from showing the pain that Phos is going through, does it? Quite brutal what happens to them. I quite like Phos as a main character, I like how they're determined to achieve their goal.
Another episode with outstanding art, as I've come to expect from this series and the OP/EDs are still a jam to listen to.

Looking forward to tomorrow's episode 🙌.
 
Episode 5 - After the betrayal of a Jellyfish, I lost both legs and had seashells implanted as legs. Now I'm Sonic.
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That's what I'm talking about. Beautiful.

And it's funny you say that because everytime the one gem with red hair appears I always go "there's Knuckles" in my head!

;)

I wonder how much of the ambiguity about whether they are male or female is on purpose. I am convinced that Dia is female, and Bort is male for instance. Cinnabar seems male to me also, but Phos I am not sure about. Seems more ambiguous. The subs I have always refer to Phos as a he but they may well be wrong.

I am not sure the ambiguity serves a real narrative purpose (that I have yet seen anyway), to the gem people the gender is probably unimportant I suppose.

Missed this post somehow! Yeah, probably nothing deep or important about it, at any rate they don't really go into what they even do socially (I mean, not really?) so there wouldn't be much use anyway...

I'm shipping gems either way, gender or no gender lol
 
some gems are clearly presented as more masculine and others as more feminine
Yeah, that's actually exactly the same thing my girlfriend said. 😯

In fact...

I am convinced that Dia is female, and Bort is male for instance. Cinnabar seems male to me also
Those are the exact divisions she had in mind too.

The subs I have always refer to Phos as a he but they may well be wrong.
Those subs are actually following the Japanese dialogue to a tee, then. Phos has always been referred to as kare, Japanese for "he". That's been true of all the gems so far.

The only exception to the blanket male gender designation has been Octowaifu— I mean Ventricosus. 😅
She's referred to by her sibling as ane, Japanese for "elder sister". In turn, she refers to Aculeasis as otōto, "younger brother".

What subbed version are you watching, if you don't mind me asking, Lordhippos?

to the gem people the gender is probably unimportant I suppose
It's quite interesting because, to the gems, gender is simply not something they have any familiarity with. They don't have reproductive organs, so it's a non-factor. It always amuses me when Motoko Kusanagi, the main character in Ghost in the Shell, gets referred to as a "female cyborg" because, well, again, with no reproductive organs, how can she be? (And yet I just used "she" there. 😅)

For the record, in Japanese, when referring to a group of males, you use the male plural form; for a group of females, you use the female plural form; and for a mixed group, you're back to using the male form again.

Side note: The Octowaifu is voiced by the same VA as Senjougahara from Monogatari in the JPN audio
Indeed. I ended up looking that up as well. She also voices Homura in Madoka Magica. Woo-hoo! 😄

Another episode with outstanding art, as I've come to expect from this series and the OP/EDs are still a jam to listen to.
And the animation accompanying them is excellent too.

By the way, anyone else think that that last shot of Phos in the OP as she gets up off the floor and walks away from camera looks like it's motion-captured? It looks quite uncanny, and very feminine.
 
*My girlfriend and I have developed the habit of calling Phos and the rest "she" as we watch the show, so...
The hips don't lie.

Maybe it's the way they're portrayed in the English dub, but they all seem feminine to me. The dub noticeably avoids any gender pronouns, instead just referring to characters by their names or avoiding the need for pronouns through sentence structure.
 
The hips don't lie.

Maybe it's the way they're portrayed in the English dub, but they all seem feminine to me. The dub noticeably avoids any gender pronouns, instead just referring to characters by their names or avoiding the need for pronouns through sentence structure.
The first time I saw the show was in English and they are all feminine to me as well. And now watching in Spanish I still feel that way though it could be because I already think that.
 
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