Disapperance of Haruhi Suzumiya movie trailer online

Conan-san said:
Maxon said:
Conan-san said:
That's cool, just remember that you will be defeated in the name of all that does not suck.
Keep thinking that way, man. You're giving me a good laugh.
And you the feeling that this industry is double g buggered and is populated by fans who behave like beaten wives with terminal cases of Stockholm syndrome.
Do me a favour and stop crying about it. No-one wants to hear nonsensical rambling about how the industry is supposedly dying when it really comes down to the fact you just like to bitch.

I suggest you look out for better anime, old or new, or simply find a new hobby if you hate it so much.
Mohawk52 said:
Careful, your fanboy rabies is showing. You might get quarantined. :wink:
Your trolling colours are showing really well.
 
Maxon said:
Conan-san said:
Maxon said:
Conan-san said:
That's cool, just remember that you will be defeated in the name of all that does not suck.
Keep thinking that way, man. You're giving me a good laugh.
And you the feeling that this industry is double g buggered and is populated by fans who behave like beaten wives with terminal cases of Stockholm syndrome.
Do me a favour and stop crying about it. No-one wants to hear nonsensical rambling about how the industry is supposedly dying when it really comes down to the fact you just like to bitch.
Some people just don't want to be saved from bad anime. These people can turn the TV on and watch that instead, for they will be well serviced within.
 
"Justin: There's been so much "otaku only" anime lately, and it would be nice if there could be more high-quality productions like Haruhi that have the potential to cross over into the mainstream."

Only until say, episode three of EE, Justin. I think any potential Haruhi S2 had to cross over into the mainstream vanished around about then. I bet Bandai are tearing their hair out over how / whether to release or not in the US & Europe.
 
I think he's talking rubbish there, anyway. Anime with mainstream potential is limited to so few titles - and Haruhi *definitely* isn't one of them, it's more of an "otaku only" anime if anything, imo.

Will be interesting to see how well the movie does in theaters, though.
 
Fansubs are better quality than DVD? What planet did this whining freetard come from?! And in the states they've got Funis free streaming, TAN streaming & VOD and Crunchy (depending if you like them). Oh and the Kadokawa youtube channel....

Just because he can't get the latest otaku nerd series the instant it comes out :roll: I can't take a word he says seriously, and it seems I'm not alone in that thought.
 
Justin Sevakis is not interested in the latest otaku nerd series, trust me. I think he does have a point about the video quality of fansubs. You can now download 720p versions and even compressed they look, to my eyes at least, comparable with anime on DVD.

Regarding Haruhi, it may not have genuine mainstream appeal, but it certainly attracts fans who are generally not interested in otaku orientated series. I mean, I love Haruhi but don't care for what's popular among the "otaku" crowd these days.
 
For free? His point is that fans have abandoned DVD for good quality (in terms of video if not translation) fansubs. The problem with streaming as an alternative is that it's not generating much revenue.

I have to say, though, that I have no idea what Justin means by "but there's currently no ability for companies to distribute contents in the way that anime fans need". If free streaming doesn't encourage them to buy physical media, what will?
 
All that says to me is that they're opportunistic twats that took a series and ran it nose first into the ground.

And burned all the good karma they had with it.

fabricatedlunatic said:
I have to say, though, that I have no idea what Justin means by "but there's currently no ability for companies to distribute contents in the way that anime fans need". If free streaming doesn't encourage them to buy physical media, what will?
Free streaming that doesn't get region blocked every time the show threatens to be good?

ayase said:
Only until say, episode three of EE, Justin. I think any potential Haruhi S2 had to cross over into the mainstream vanished around about then. I bet Bandai are tearing their hair out over how / whether to release or not in the US & Europe.
Bandai US? Naw, the demonsied of Bandai Vsual USA has possessed them such that they spent Christmas day pinning an elaborate corporate suicide note stating in bold letters that they were getting S2.

Beez, I would like to think Andrew (and whoever else has the buttons) will just look the other way and let Manga handle Disappearance.
 
Conan-san said:
fabricatedlunatic said:
I have to say, though, that I have no idea what Justin means by "but there's currently no ability for companies to distribute contents in the way that anime fans need". If free streaming doesn't encourage them to buy physical media, what will?
Free streaming that doesn't get region blocked every time the show threatens to be good?

I don't think that should read "in the way that anime fans need" it should be "in the way that anime fans want" which of course for most of the freetards out there is for free in better than possible quality with all the bells and whistles. Of course there are no companies that can afford to throw money away like that. What most of the so called fans need is a slap and being told to grow up. If nobody buys the shows in whatever legal manner, the companies wont have the money to make anymore and in the end all the complainers will be left to complain about is that nobody has made anything to complain about.

The problem with legal streaming/downloading is the same as with DVDs and Blu-Rays there are so many different license for regions and media that it is expensive and difficult for any one company to control all of what they need to release something globally. Also few if any of the anime companies are international, so having to region lock things is just the way companies have to do things to protect what they have paid out for.

As for the endless eight episodes, I just see it as a no win situation for the company. They animated them and people complained, if they had not animate them just as many would probably have complained given how many people complain if a show does not follow the manga or other source material.
 
Project-2501 said:
Fansubs are better quality than DVD? What planet did this whining freetard come from?!
Well, for a lot of series now you can get BD rips before the DVDs become available over here. So, at some point, yeah, you can argue that fansubs have gone past DVDs.

It's certainly not a blanket statement, though - plenty of shows are subbed from low quality raws, and upscaled TV broadcasts don't look as good as upscaled, well authored DVDs, and aren't even close to well authored BDs.
 
I found this bit interesting.
Justin: So in other words, the line between niche content and mainstream content is becoming meaningless.

Kadokawa: Yes, the subculture is encroaching upon the mainstream. I think it's part of how culture will be defined in the 21st century.
 
The notion of niche becoming one with mainstream, at least within the existing niche that is anime fandom, is indeed an exciting one.

If it is true, we can perhaps expect shows targeted at otaku to be valued by R1 companies to the same degree as those with 'outsider potential'. A fanciful and controversial thought, but an amusing one nonetheless.
 
I think he's dreaming, though. Anime is no more accepted now than in past years, and seems to be on the decline in the US. I'm not as up to date on the situation in Japan as I once was, but I wouldn't be confident it's much different there - there are certain types of shows that are "mainstream" enough to run on morning or evening TV, and everything else still runs late night and with a handful of exceptions struggles to sell 1000 copies per volume on DVD. Bakemonogatari's popularity is maybe an interesting case, but apart from that nothing stands out as potentially "non-otaku mainstream" (and even Bake is more than somewhat "otaku").

There still hasn't been a truly mainstream show since Eva, I don't think - I'm pretty sure even One Piece hasn't reached the society-pervading levels of "importance" that Dragonball reached, despite its fancy sales numbers, but, even if it has, it's been running for over 12 years, it's not a new thing.
 
Nerdishness is more accepted now than ever before, though. Comic-Con's attendance is getting higher each year and on a slightly unrelated note, The Big Bang Theory, a show about geeks is America's highest rating sitcom. I think with most things, because we're in a tech age, everyone is getting caught up in only what the obsessives were back in the dark ages.

MCM Expo's are getting more and more busy each year as well. The internet is giving a place to watch and talk to people, and the otaku/nerds are definitely ones for the internet communities.
 
People have been saying that about geeks/techies etc for ages, though. Those people have a touchstone that other people "get" (they deal with things that are an extension of everyday life, mostly, and their outcast point is usually extreme intelligence or simply social retardation) - people still don't "get" a person older than 12 watching cartoons and to a lesser extent reading comics, not even in the way that they "get" playing video games - and I still don't think that most people approve of playing video games, and would say that they play "the Wii", "Guitar Hero", "GTA" or "Modern Warfare" whilst all those weirdos play actual "video games".

Cartoons and comics are still a niche within a niche - in my own personal experience, people in this country still think that all anime is tentacle porn, to a certain extent.
 
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