Defective or Disappointing UK Anime Discs

I've seen this has been posted about before, way, way back but I just stuck in my Manga UK DVD copy of the Macross Plus OVA and the discs are all mislabelled and because the DVD I have is part of a twin-pack with the Movie Edition which I don't own as I picked this up individually in CeX, I don't have the first two episodes to watch.

From my research it seems OVA disc one contains Episode 3 - 4, OVA disc two includes the Movie Edition and the Movie Edition disc contains Episode 1 - 2 so I'll have to pick up the Movie Edition on DVD to get Episode 1 - 2.

I didn't pick up the blu-ray Ultimate Edition as I don't like awkward sized cases. I will be picking up the standard blu-ray for the Movie Edition though but I am still hoping down-the-line we'll get a regular sized LE / CE which includes the OVA's.

Tbh, the Disney+ versions of Macross Plus are probably better quality than these old DVD's but I don't have much need for a D+ subscription at this point in time. Plus I just want to own a version of the OVA's on home video.
I have the Manga UK “Macross Plus Ultimate Edition” DVD (3 discs, 2 cases, card sleeve), and the discs AREN’T mislabelled. I just chucked them in to make sure.
 
Iirc the single sets that came with the Manga Force magazine were mislabeled though.
Well, as luck would have it; I’ve also got the “Manga Force” discs…
They don’t seem to be mislabelled either.

Specific to LD’s points: The disc labelled and packaged as “The Movie” is indeed the movie (code VFC01466 same as the retail disc), and the episodes 1/2 disc correctly contains the episode 1 and 2 (both by menu and end credits)

Would CEX even have taken non-retail/barcodes discs (back when they took DVDs)? My inference was that LD had a partial/split retail set.
 
I checked both discs of my copy and disc one which says Episode 1 - 2 contains Episode 3 - 4 and disc two which says Episode 3 - 4 contains the Movie Edition.

I've ordered the Movie Edition from CeX which should match up with this set to see what is contained on that disc.

If I have no luck I'll get rid of both copies and just watch the OVA's on Disney+ eventually and wait for the standard edition of the Movie Edition on blu-ray to release.
 
I have the Manga UK “Macross Plus Ultimate Edition” DVD (3 discs, 2 cases, card sleeve), and the discs AREN’T mislabelled.
Well, as luck would have it; I’ve also got the “Manga Force” discs…
They don’t seem to be mislabelled either.
For what it's worth, I have the Macross Plus Ultimate Edition 3-DVD set from Manga Entertainment as well as the Manga Force version of Macross Plus: The Movie, and I can report that my discs are NOT mislabelled either.

Maybe there was a separate print run at some point that resulted in mislabelled discs? Dunno. 🤷‍♂️
 
For what it's worth, I have the Macross Plus Ultimate Edition 3-DVD set from Manga Entertainment as well as the Manga Force version of Macross Plus: The Movie, and I can report that my discs are NOT mislabelled either.

Maybe there was a separate print run at some point that resulted in mislabelled discs? Dunno. 🤷‍♂️
Just to jump on this as I still have my original copy and can confirm initial copies were mislabelled. As mentioned, mine also has disc labelled movie which is actually parts 1 & 2, parts 1 & 2 is actually 3 & 4 and 3 & 4 is actually the movie. Very confusing the first time you put it in!
 
I checked both discs of my copy and disc one which says Episode 1 - 2 contains Episode 3 - 4 and disc two which says Episode 3 - 4 contains the Movie Edition.

I've ordered the Movie Edition from CeX which should match up with this set to see what is contained on that disc.

If I have no luck I'll get rid of both copies and just watch the OVA's on Disney+ eventually and wait for the standard edition of the Movie Edition on blu-ray to release.

My copy of Macross Plus: Movie Edition arrived from CeX but it ended up being the Manga Force version of it so it has the corrected disc. I'll just trade these back in and either pick up the double-pack so I know whatever version I get will have all the discs will be there, mislabelled or not or just not bother and hope AL will release a standard edition or regular sized CE containing the OVA's.

I did take a gamble with CeX online tbf as even if a title has multiple releases, sometimes they're all under the same listing so you could receive whatever version.
 
In-step with the above mislabeling, I have some work for @Roy. 'Tis fortuitous you made this topic for me.

I don't think it's widely known as few buy CEs to actually watch anime but there's been a major 🐓-up with the UK AoT final season steelbook. I learned about it via Amazon reviews--there are only 6 ratings. A user posted this illustration of 🐓ery... which makes it more confusing tbh. But as I'm much too lazy to do my own diagram, heyho(e)~

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The TLTR is, the first 3 discs are correct. The last 4 are all mislabeled. I confirmed this myself:

Disc 6 is disc 4.
Disc 7 is disc 5.
Disc 4 is disc 6.
Disc 5 is disc 7.

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I suggest everyone that pre-ordered checks so we can arm ourselves with e-pitchforks.

Not sure whoooo to complain to given CR have no staff on AUKN. Thus, I'm complaining to Roy. That is all.
 
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In-step with the above mislabeling, I have some work for @Roy. 'Tis fortuitous you made this topic for me.

I don't think it's widely known as few buy CEs to actually watch anime but there's been a major 🐓-up with the UK AoT final season steelbook. I learned about it via Amazon reviews--there are only 6 ratings. A user posted this illustration of 🐓ery... which makes it more confusing tbh as I'm much too lazy to do my own diagram... heyho.

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The TLTR is, the first 3 discs are correct. The last 4 are all mislabeled. I confirmed this myself:

Disc 6 is disc 4.
Disc 7 is disc 5.
Disc 4 is disc 6.
Disc 5 is disc 7.

🫨

I suggest everyone that pre-ordered checks so we can arm ourselves with e-pitchforks.

Not sure whoooo to complain to given CR have no staff on AUKN. Thus, I'm complaining to Roy. That is all.
You could have finished that thought with CR have no staff. The UK arm is run from the US via a PR firm as they closed the UK office the second the ink was dry on the merger, which is why Classroom of the Elite Season 1 will never be fixed despite having multiple episodes with missing subtitles.
 
...This reminds me that there is actually another issue with the AoT steelbooks. Not sure if everyone else's the same but the text on the spines is different: S1/final season for some reason have text that is nigh invisible unless a light source is nearby (similar to Ghibli's steelbooks). S2-3 have clearly visible white text. At first I thought it a bizarre start/end stylistic choice. Most likely another error. Anyone else's differ? 'Twas a great decision to get rid my mixed Manga/CR box sets to save space~

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Hmm, I'll have to check my copies of the US steelbook releases more closely - but they are downstairs in my basement theater room, and it's too chilly to go down there right now for me to bother, with it being 10° F / -12° C outside at the moment - I didn't really notice much if any difference in the whiteness of the text on the US steels, and it's hard to tell in the one photo I took of all four spines together. The color of the text looks fairly uniform here...

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You could have finished that thought with CR have no staff. The UK arm is run from the US via a PR firm as they closed the UK office the second the ink was dry on the merger, which is why Classroom of the Elite Season 1 will never be fixed despite having multiple episodes with missing subtitles.

That's less than ideal, then. Multiple eps unsubbed reads like an even worse cock-up. If that went uncorrected... welp.
One of the unhappy Amazon reviewers mentioned getting replacement discs, so I assumed was some form of replacement scheme. They most likely ordered a replacement from Amazon, and suffice to say likely all copies are the same.

...This reminds me that there is actually another issue with the AoT steelbooks: the text on the spines differs for meeee. S1/final season for some reason have text that is nigh invisible unless a light source is nearby. S2-3 have clearly visible white text. At first I thought it a bizarre start/end stylistic choice. Most likely another error. Anyone else's the same? 'Twas a great decision to get rid of my mixed Manga/CR box sets to save space~


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Hmm, I'll have to check my copies of the US steelbook releases more closely - but they are downstairs in my basement theater room, and it's too chilly to go down there right now for me to bother, with it being 10° F / -12° C outside at the moment - I didn't really notice much if any difference in the whiteness of the text on the US steels, and it's hard to tell in the one photo I took of all four spines together. The color of the text looks fairly uniform here...

Pretty sure I can tell at a glance; all four of yours match the spines on my S1+final season steelbooks as rather than plain white, the text is greyish. 'Tis the same effect the Studio Canal Ghibli steelbooks have.

It can be hard to tell in a photo as, if like mine, the text will appear more clear/silver and react under a light bulb etc. Not sure what the term for it is but for whatever reason, only my S1/the final season match your uniform four. No clue if a UK specific issue. Or if it's specific to each steelbook vs RNG.
 
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Yes, that photo can be a bit deceiving - because the photo was taken at an angle, the lettering is also picking up some of the purple color of the carpet reflected by the camera flash, which is making the lettering look a bit duller than it actually is. That CR logo on the Final steel is also glowing from just the correct angle of camera flash causing a bright reflection, so it is not nearly as brilliant as it looks in the photo, either - I noticed that right away when I took the photo.
 
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I recently rewatched Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid (Season 1), this time on Blu-ray from Madman Entertainment, which used the Funimation discs (I bought them just over a year before a UK release was even announced), and I noticed an audio issue with mine. I don't know if it's player specific, but the audio (I watched it in Japanese) was slightly out of sync with the audio coming slightly before the video, but when I hit rewind, it re-syncs the audio and video to the correct timing. But when it finishes one episode and moves onto the next, it becomes out of sync again and I had to hit rewind (even briefly) to re-sync it again, but I had to make sure not to rewind to the black screen before the start of the episode or it will not re-sync. This syncing issue affected both discs, and in addition to the episodes, it also affected the extras.

I'm not sure if the UK release has this issue, but I'm guessing it does, as they use the same masters, even though the warning screen and starting company logos would've changed on the UK release.
 
I recently rewatched Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid (Season 1), this time on Blu-ray from Madman Entertainment, which used the Funimation discs (I bought them just over a year before a UK release was even announced), and I noticed an audio issue with mine. I don't know if it's player specific, but the audio (I watched it in Japanese) was slightly out of sync with the audio coming slightly before the video, but when I hit rewind, it re-syncs the audio and video to the correct timing. But when it finishes one episode and moves onto the next, it becomes out of sync again and I had to hit rewind (even briefly) to re-sync it again, but I had to make sure not to rewind to the black screen before the start of the episode or it will not re-sync. This syncing issue affected both discs, and in addition to the episodes, it also affected the extras.

I'm not sure if the UK release has this issue, but I'm guessing it does, as they use the same masters, even though the warning screen and starting company logos would've changed on the UK release.
I reviewed the UK release and I can’t remember this being an issue.
 
Apologies for the double-post, but I re-tested the US/AU discs for Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid briefly, with the English dub (which I don't normally use, as I'm not a dub watcher), and the audio syncs fine with the dub, then I switched to Japanese on the main menu and replayed from the start, and the audio sync problem is still there. Even when you set it to English dub, the OVA and the shorts have that sync problem as they're both subtitle only.

As I haven't seen anyone else report this error, it's possible that it could either be a syncing error with my TV speakers (as it corrects itself when I hit rewind) or maybe I could have a faulty copy, as I tested out some of my other Blu-rays (including Manga UK's release of Puella Magi Madoka Magica, the first anime BD I bought back in 2016), and there are no syncing problems with them. In fact, I'm currently watching Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid S (Season 2) on Blu-ray (I bought the UK release this time round), and no syncing problems with this one.
 
Apologies once again for the double-post, but upon further inspection, the problem may be down to either the speakers on my TV or my Blu-ray player (both of which I only had for just over a year). While Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid S (Season 2) had played without issue, the extras had the sync issue. I've tested out more Blu-rays, and discovered more with the sync issue (which can be corrected with the rewind button), including UK releases. And all of those with the sync issue used masters/authors from the Funiroll (Crunchymation, if you prefer) releases, and even then, not all of them had the playback issue. I've tried Blu-rays authored by other people/distributors, and none of them have the playback issues on my TV or Blu-ray player.

Apologies for the false alarm regarding the Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid BDs.
 
Apologies once again for the double-post, but upon further inspection, the problem may be down to either the speakers on my TV or my Blu-ray player (both of which I only had for just over a year). While Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid S (Season 2) had played without issue, the extras had the sync issue. I've tested out more Blu-rays, and discovered more with the sync issue (which can be corrected with the rewind button), including UK releases. And all of those with the sync issue used masters/authors from the Funiroll (Crunchymation, if you prefer) releases, and even then, not all of them had the playback issue. I've tried Blu-rays authored by other people/distributors, and none of them have the playback issues on my TV or Blu-ray player.

Apologies for the false alarm regarding the Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid BDs.
You seem to be detailing this as an audio problem, but I think it’s more likely the picture being delayed. When I first read (skimmed) the issue, I thought it was the audio needing to catch up, but no; it’s ahead…
Does your tv have some form of ‘game mode’ that you could try (which usually minimises input latency)? Or in the other direction; any audio connections on the player itself that you could use to skip the tv?
 
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