UK Anime Distributor Anime Limited Discussion Thread

anime_andrew said:
Buzzkillington said:
So uh, any kind of update on Miss Hokusai? Still aiming for August? I've got a lot of stuff to buy across August and early September so I really need to sort out my budget.
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Aiming for, yes, but it's wholly conditional on IG at this stage. I've everything else printed and good to go, but I can't print the booklet til they are happy with it and they're naturally hell bent on perfection - you can imagine my feelings now...

AP
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I assume the Production I.G. short films collection will be the same issue? I'm fine with waiting (yes I am very interested in this release in case you may ask).
 
Jaysgba said:
The issue isn't international masters being used, it's the claims of a "unique product" alongside an high price for titles like Terror in Resonance and Full Metal Panic using international masters.

FMP, for one, is an ultimate edition with discs that are apparently dirt cheap in AU and US, and no UK standard edition in sight.

It's difficult to see something as an "ultimate edition" when the disc is so heavily tailored to the US audience, especially when trailers sections feature titles not available over here. And the price to consumers for an AL-authored release doesn't seem to differ much to a release authored by someone else.
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It feels like that's only part of it as we've seen complaints in products that aren't Ultimate Editions as well on that frontier :). It's a damned if we do and damned if we don't sort of scenario there. The reason by the by that our own authored releases do not differ so much always is because we make a conscious effort to price match, especially on the upper priced product like Gurren Lagann (which cost multiples more than usual).

Where not it means we can push a bit further on limited unit print runs (1k units makes for an expensive run at times etc). So where we can use someone else's master it lets us do more than we'd be able to otherwise on the packaging often where as when we author our own, we absorb the extra cost and have to be careful about how certain we are of sales :).

Either way, Escaflowne is AL authored so clearly doesn't fall into this issue :).

AP
 
NormanicGrav said:
anime_andrew said:
Buzzkillington said:
So uh, any kind of update on Miss Hokusai? Still aiming for August? I've got a lot of stuff to buy across August and early September so I really need to sort out my budget.
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Aiming for, yes, but it's wholly conditional on IG at this stage. I've everything else printed and good to go, but I can't print the booklet til they are happy with it and they're naturally hell bent on perfection - you can imagine my feelings now...

AP
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I assume the Production I.G. short films collection will be the same issue? I'm fine with waiting (yes I am very interested in this release in case you may ask).
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I doubt it - this one is just an isolated issue I think, I'm not anticipating many delays due to the nature of the material we're working with (we also talked through this release on my latest visit to Tokyo in mid-July so I'm pretty confident on it).

Best,

AP
 
anime_andrew said:
Buzzkillington said:
So uh, any kind of update on Miss Hokusai? Still aiming for August? I've got a lot of stuff to buy across August and early September so I really need to sort out my budget.
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Aiming for, yes, but it's wholly conditional on IG at this stage. I've everything else printed and good to go, but I can't print the booklet til they are happy with it and they're naturally hell bent on perfection - you can imagine my feelings now...

AP
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That's a shame but I guess your hands are tied at this point :/ I'm really excited to see it as I've heard nothing but good things.

On the matter of using international masters, I had no idea people had an issue with this, I mean as long as the masters are good I can't even pretend to care (and you know me, I can usually moan about anything and everything). I think I'll join my namesake Buzz up there on top of that building.....
 
Another issue with international masters is when there is a large gap between the international release and the UK release.
It's depressing when the US/AU/elsewhere have been able to enjoy the exact same discs for a substantial amount of time while we're forced to wait for what is, in essence, the same product.

Gundam Rec in G is a good example of this - it will now presumably be using US masters, and even though the UK release was announced well in advance of the US release, we'll likely now be forced to wait until months after the US release at best.
 
I like the look of Escaflowne but I have not seen it yet . I'm going to try a few episodes out next weekend and if I like it I'll pick up the early bird special .
 
I have to ask what advantage could making their own masters possibly wield over the US if the contents is the same? It seems like people are just moaning for the sake of it...
 
It devalues an expensive Ultimate Edition in my eyes if the trailers on the disc don't correlate to what I can actually buy without importing.
 
Jaysgba said:
It devalues an expensive Ultimate Edition in my eyes if the trailers on the disc don't correlate to what I can actually buy without importing.
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See aforementioned comments about anime fans and buildings...

You want to potentially make the set a lot more expensive, so the freaking trailers match? How pedantic. It's easy to see how some anime fans with lower incomes feel isolated. They really are...
 
I agree that it seems like moaning for the sake of moaning rather than because it actually matters. I don't mind them redoing when the international release has a problem or lacks some extras AL have been able to get their hands on, but redoing for the sake of redoing just to put a different logo or trailer (which I'll skip anyway) at the front is a waste of their time. Personally I'd rather get the exact same discs as the US (regions and all) and let the market decide which company's bundle suits buyers best - understand why there are issues with that when holdbacks damage sales but when they're only competing against themselves (as with the Funimation releases) I'm happy to have exactly what the US gets and really don't care about £5 here or there, a different slipcase arrangement or an extra few weeks' wait. So long as it was streamed the edge is taken off my desperation to have things day and date, and frankly releases have never before been faster between the regions than they are now already.

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You do make some interesting points Smeelia. What I meant by elitist was more, the subgroup that buys into all the extras, imports etc & can afford to do so, I know elitist wasn't the right word to use but I was tired when I wrote that so I apologise if it offends. I consider myself a casual anime fan as I am only interested in the shows/films themselves & watch a minimum of 4 episodes a day. Despite anime being only one of my interests it takes up a lion's share of my income after bills/food.


I have no issues with having the choice available to people with the funds and interest to get these editions but it feels like standard editions are
slipped back every time there's a new license that can be made into a Limited Edition or Ultimate. It's even worse when a standard edition comes out in parallel but only on DVD so if you want the Blu-ray you have to pay for added extras or wait for an unknown length of time. By the time standard editions come out I will have other anime I am geared up for and intending to buy, so they'll probably get relegated to being purchased cheap in a sale or 2nd hand. This is one place where Jerome wins as he tends to release the standard BD in parallel or shortly after the ltd/collector's.


I do get that there's a cold, hard, business side of things & I do enjoy reading insights into the business side of things and counters/explanations from people such as Andrew but it doesn't change how the end result sometimes leaves me disappointed.



Buzz201 said:
If you can afford a Crunchyroll subscription, you really should give it a try. Crunchyroll is excellent.
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One of the biggest things that's put me off of Crunchyroll is that when I really enjoy an anime I like to buy a physical copy to re-watch at my leisure but often these are unavailable or expensive imports. I do keep getting tempted by it but I don't want to be in that situation.
 
TIL people watch the trailers on their anime BD/DVD sets o_O I'm spamming the skip button from the moment my disc starts playing as frankly I don't need nor want what is really just an advert on something I paid money for (in fact I put something on the other day and it wouldn't let me skip the trailers so I turned it off in a huff and watched something else lol).

Just to reiterate I don't care who's masters you use as long as there is nothing wrong with them, if you feel you can improve on them then fill your boots but to redo them just for the sake of redoing them seems like a complete waste of your money and time.
 
anime_andrew said:
Like with the work involved with Gurren Lagann this means the SRP is going to be a bit higher than I'd like which is about £59.99 SRP (so likely around £45 on retail with folks) but means you get the same video content :). Can't win 'em all so I'm sure now people will rail that it's too expensive too...

Best,

AP
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I wouldn't be one of the complainers, I think that's a fair price & I would preorder it when it was available.



Edit: Also adding my bafflement on people that find international disks in UK releases unacceptable, especially when these same people probably import a lot of anime anyway.
 
Not "in UK releases", in UK Ultimate Editions. Ultimate Editions just don't feel "ultimate" when they use discs that have been around elsewhere for longer and have content that effectively mocks UK buyers for not living in US/AU/elsewhere.
I'm all for international masters in a release that isn't being sold as an Ultimate Edition.

Gundam Rec in G is a different issue - that was announced so far in advance of the US release, but now they'll be using US masters which means there'll be a massive gap between US and UK release in favour of the US.
 
Jaysgba said:
Not "in UK releases", in UK Ultimate Editions. Ultimate Editions just don't feel "ultimate" when they use discs that have been around elsewhere for longer and have content that effectively mocks UK buyers for not living in US/AU/elsewhere.
I'm all for international masters in a release that isn't being sold as an Ultimate Edition.

Gundam Rec in G is a different issue - that was announced so far in advance of the US release, but now they'll be using US masters which means there'll be a massive gap between US and UK release in favour of the US.
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To be honest, at present, I feel more mocked by the entire UK fanbase, who seem not to give a **** about the members of the fanbase that can't afford CEs for every title, than I do a few unfortunate trailer choices...

And the UK got a simulcast of Rec G, whilst the US didn't. I think your complaint is unfair.
 
But aside from some trailers you'll probably only watch once what is the actual difference if the release is solid/without error, especially when you factor in the increased cost passed on to you as a buyer? Those trailer releases can always be imported anyway & I'm sure people who can afford to blow £130 on a collector's box can afford to import & blow a little money on a region 1 or region free player (my pc's bd/rw cost £35 and I have region free software for example, though I rarely import.)

I can understand the whole long delays thing a bit better but it feels like the majority who complain about that actually import anyway. Back on the old forums I was always seeing people stating "Already got the US version" when it came to new uk releases, especially people who are focused on collecting special/collector's editions.

I've always looked at the ultimate editions as being ultimate due to their extras (nice box, big artbook etc), the visual impact of the collection.
 
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