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Lutga said:
Didn't MVM say they were seeing if they could get more Patlabor after releasing the OVA series, or am I misremembering?
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This is the response I got from MVM on twitter not too long ago in regards to Patlabor ON Television:
We're releasing The New Files on DVD and BD next year. The TV series is a nope simply due to far too many episodes to BBFC.
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And in regards to the Patlabor Movies:
They were released years ago by Beez, but DVD only so no plans to get them back either sorry.
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Interesting answer re. the TV show - so the issue isn't a licensing one, but just sheer cost (kind of frustrating in a way that BBFC fees can essentially no-no a release like this)
 
Unless I'm mistaken its around £2k in fees for a 325 minute series, and it increases linearly so around 4k for 650 minutes etc.

I don't know if there are ways of minimising this, ie removing the per-minute cost of all the opening and endings after having been rated once they can be removed from the total viewing, and therefore chargeable, time.

Its a decent chunk of cost, without it I imagine we'd see a lot more of the episode heavy series' released. Take Monster for example, it would cost in excess of £10k in fees just to rate it.

Out of interest....Lets say someone licenses Monster, and all numbers here are plucked out of the air:

If the terms of the agreement charged the licencee say £1,500 per episode, and they made 2,000 copies available, sold to retailers at £100 a pop, and packaging cost £5 (it will be less than this) per unit, plus BBFC charges, plus assuming a team of 4 each paid £25,000/yr and it took up exactly 1 month of their time, it would look like this:

Licence cost: £111,000
BBFC Fees: £13,000
Employment (1 month total hours): £8,333
Packaging: £10,000
Total: £142,333

Now that doesn't include printing, shipping, negotiation, advertising, rent etc etc, but forgetting for a second those things exist, if even 500 units couldn't be shifted then you're only on £150,000 recouped, which is incredibly close.

You've got to be pretty damn sure it's not just the voice of the hardcore few online that really want to see a series brought to these shores, and put their money where their mouth is. To that end as much as I would love to see some of the large classic series released, I understand that it must be a gamble sometimes.....but then if you make £5k profit per release after all is said and done and have 20 releases in a year that's a nice £100k profit at the end of it, so fine margins are the name of the game I expect.
 
fathomlessblue said:
So can I assume my question about the Honneamise film is a 'no comment' as yet?
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Not at all! I'm just checking what the score is - the issue with that scene is it is part of the full film and wasn't cut at the request of the director so I'm suspecting what I'll be told is best we can do is add a chapter to that point so people can skip it. I do agree it changes the whole film and feels overall unnecessary though - but it was added by the director himself. Will get back to folks on it!

fathomlessblue said:
Speaking of classic anime films, Section 23 has just announced that they're releasing the first Patlabor film on Blu-ray. I'd personally love for AL to release that (& the second movie), but I'm guessing Manga Ent. probably still have the rights. I mean they did produce the (excellent) dub & vaguely mentioned being interested in releasing them if they believed they would be financially viable. As the public face of the company have pretty much been stripped away, who knows what the situation is with it now. It just sounds more like the kind of product that would fit in with AL's catalogue, even if there's probably plenty of Bandai premium sets still around. Either way, as long as the original dub on the disk, I'm a confirmed buyer. Anyone know what the current licensing rights are over here? Is it still with manga?
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Patlabor films were with Beez last I saw them but guess they lapsed backwards now. Hard to tell if it's actually viable as they already kinda got the Ultimate treatment via Beez before BD came by! It'd be really hard to top that quality too...

AP
 
@anime_andrew The scene definitely shouldn’t be cut, and I’m glad it isn’t. Call it self indulgent if you like, but its a very important scene to show how flawed Shirotsugh is as a character. I’ll agree that its a hard scene to watch, but its not like the movie is aimed towards a young audience anyway. This film is far removed from the GAINAX that people, and quite frankly, thats what makes it such an interesting film.
 
anime_andrew said:
Not at all! I'm just checking what the score is - the issue with that scene is it is part of the full film and wasn't cut at the request of the director so I'm suspecting what I'll be told is best we can do is add a chapter to that point so people can skip it. I do agree it changes the whole film and feels overall unnecessary though - but it was added by the director himself. Will get back to folks on it! AP
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking sounds the most realistic. An alternative version with out the scene sounds nice, but really far too much effort legally & technically to attempt. Thanks for responding.


anime_andrew said:
Patlabor films were with Beez last I saw them but guess they lapsed backwards now. Hard to tell if it's actually viable as they already kinda got the Ultimate treatment via Beez before BD came by! It'd be really hard to top that quality too...

AP
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That's partially confusion my front. Having the old Manga vhs & dvds, & hearing about the possibility of them releasing blu-rays, I'd forgotten that Beez also owned the rights at some point. I'm still curious about what the situation involving the rights of the old Manga dub with Peter Marinker as Goto. I'd ask the company themselves, but as there's no real public face to it anymore beyond marketing, I can't imagine I'd be able to get an answer.
 
LtDiscotek said:
@anime_andrew The scene definitely shouldn’t be cut, and I’m glad it isn’t. Call it self indulgent if you like, but its a very important scene to show how flawed Shirotsugh is as a character. I’ll agree that its a hard scene to watch, but its not like the movie is aimed towards a young audience anyway. This film is far removed from the GAINAX that people, and quite frankly, thats what makes it such an interesting film.
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Without trying to turn this into a Honneamise discussion, I will say that while I'd personally not like to see that scene again, I'd rather it be included than entirely skipping it for those that do. To be clear, my objections with it aren't out of squeamishness or being uncomfortable; I just think it's a terrible decision from a directorial stance. While I understand what the movie was going for, it was well & beyond what was necessary. They needed a 4, but went for a 10. As a result, Shirotsugh comes across less a flawed character, & more a unrepentant & unsympathetic monster. That seems a fairly common complaint, to the point where it's become a giant shadow looming over the movie, with constant mentions of, "it's great, but...". Honestly, how that scene was resolved the following morning is probably the biggest kicker.

So yeah, I get the intent. They just did a poor job realising it.
 
If only I could contact every film studio out there and get them to put custom chapter selects in so I can skip scenes I don't like or think are poor.
 
Blood Lad just arrived from Anime Limited's web store.
It's a nice sturdy case like I'd expect it to be :) Sadly, it's going on the "to watch" pile as I have far too much else to catch up on.

If anyone is interested too, it's down to £32 on Amazon for the Blu-Ray.
 
Great update as always, release schedule looks awesome for Q2: Tiger and Bunny: The Rising, KlK part 3, Baccanno, SPace Dandy Season 2 and Gankatsuou will all be mine!
 
I shall be getting all of them.

Kill la Kill Part 2 Blu-Ray
Shinkai Double Pack Blu-Ray
Wings of Honneamise Blu-Ray
Tiger and Bunny The Rising Blu-Ray
Kill la Kill Part 3 Blu-Ray
Nerima Daikon Brothers DVD
Baccano Blu-Ray
Space Dandy Season 2 Collectors Blu-Ray
Gankatsuou Blu-Ray

Already own HAL Collector's Edition.

I dread to think how much all of this will cost me but Anime Limited seem to license all titles I'm interested in!
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Same. I reckon I'll buy all of them too. June could be stacked, if those dates turn out to be concrete.

Elaniel said:
Blood Lad just arrived from Anime Limited's web store.
It's a nice sturdy case like I'd expect it to be :) Sadly, it's going on the "to watch" pile as I have far too much else to catch up on.

If anyone is interested too, it's down to £32 on Amazon for the Blu-Ray.
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Mine just arrived as well. Happy with it, especially since I bought it when AllTheAnime made a pricing error. £18 with my 25% discount. :oops:
 
For me I'll be getting the last 2 parts of Kill La Kill. Not the best show in the world, but I did end up enjoying it weirdly enough. The first set was also done really well so I have no doubt that the whole set side by side will look nice.

Probably going to keep my pre-order for the Makoto Shinkai Double Pack since I ordered it for £13 so that's too low of a price to pass up. Helps that I've never seen them either :p What makes me a bit wary is the existence of a full Shinkai collection, if that isn't too much more price wise and comes in a better package I might wait for that or double dip.

I already own Royal Space Force on Blu-ray which also came with the DVD and a booklet and box, but I have the Anime Limited one pre-ordered for £25 just in case so I may wait to see how it looks and how much funds I have. Most likely will cancel however. Can't see it beating the US release.

Baccano is a must buy. Was going to import the Japanese or US release but will get this unless it turns out under par. Never seen the show either, but my brother begs me to watch it every day lol.

Will see how Gankutsuou turns out, again a show that I haven't seen, but looks interesting visually ay least. I heard the DVD looked better then the Blu-ray however....

Not interested in anything else, missed out on the Perfect Blue CE but will skip the Standard release. I always go for the CE/LE or nothing. So KLK part 2 and 3 and Baccano are the only definite buys for me.
 
Yeah, gonna get the final 2 parts of KlK as well as Baccano (already have it on DVD, but it's worth the double dip) and Tiger & Bunny: The Rising (I already have the series and the first movie, this is the missing piece :p).

I only hope my job situation gets better before they come out >_>
 
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