Yet more crackdown on illegal downloading

Project-2501, i'll have you know I buy the merch through the bands websites, or at their gigs.

Also, with regards to climate change, can you prove this wrong?
 
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2744/inter ... d/comments

It's been ******* passed...

what the **** is this ****? swear moar! Freedom has taken a heavy blow imo. The UK is in steady decline anyway with crime and stuff, so we can all have fun becoming the new Australia. Great... All that will happen is people will stop buying altogether and they won't want to buy because of the hiked prices. Leave things how they are! Also other possible implications of this could be media for games and what not possibly they could go as far as count rightclick>save as 'downloading'.

'Great' Britain my ass.
 
Kirrimir said:
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/2744/internet-ban-legislation-passed/comments

It's been **** passed...

what the **** is this ****? swear moar! Freedom has taken a heavy blow imo. The UK is in steady decline anyway with crime and stuff, so we can all have fun becoming the new Australia. Great... All that will happen is people will stop buying altogether and they won't want to buy because of the hiked prices. Leave things how they are! Also other possible implications of this could be media for games and what not possibly they could go as far as count rightclick>save as 'downloading'.

'Great' Britain my ass.

**** I'm still in the process of downloading duckman as we speak
 
Can they "get" you if you only download? When I want something, I tend to get it from file hosting sites like HotFile and MegaUpload? How can they tell the difference as to whether I'm acquiring something legally or not? I've downloaded stuff my mates have uploaded on them before. Everything is so unclear.
 
I'm just curious about the whole "I'm gonna catch you" thing. I'm not particularly knowledgeable in that field so I was wantin' someone to give me the lowdown.
 
Jayme said:
Can they "get" you if you only download? When I want something, I tend to get it from file hosting sites like HotFile and MegaUpload? How can they tell the difference as to whether I'm acquiring something legally or not? I've downloaded stuff my mates have uploaded on them before. Everything is so unclear.

I'm in the same boat, i too would like to know there method's for proving something to be 'illegal'.
 
certain isp's are tracing data already, Virgin for 1

you're more likly to get caught with DDL like megafire than you are with bittorrent, as it's easier to encrypt torrent files
 
Jayme said:
Can they "get" you if you only download? When I want something, I tend to get it from file hosting sites like HotFile and MegaUpload? How can they tell the difference as to whether I'm acquiring something legally or not? I've downloaded stuff my mates have uploaded on them before. Everything is so unclear.

ISPs count what you Upload as "Download" for the sake of their packages. So should you have a 40GB download limit, and you download 20GB of torrent files (following "etiquette" in which you upload at least the same amount you download) then in theory, your download limit will be up. So, from this, it's pretty obvious how ISP's can tell the worst ones. Downloading a 20GB discography, and then uploading it is waving a big "I'm a pirate!" flag really. So, I should imagine it would be harder to catch you if you get via DDL.

However the big issue here is no-one knows what we could be "got" for. Since this is just a Parent Act, it means we're gonna recieve a bit of Delegated Legislation off of the Secretary of State (I do believe that's whom the power is being passed to. I may need to double check). This means that he's gonna have a lot of power to make legislation that will go (effectively) unquestioned by Parliament unless someones appeals against conviction. Best thing we can do is hope that when this Legislation to come through, then allow a bunch of guys with good lawyers who've been "had" to prove the Legislation has gone ultra vires (assuming the Sec. of State abuses power) or that it's not compatible with the European Convention of Human Rights. If either of these happen, a doctrine of incompatibility will (hopefully) be issued, and the Government are back to square 1 for a while. (It wont take so long to re-write the legislation though).

Sorry for the Law jargon above.

TL;DR - Chances are the legislation will impose stupid and desperate laws. The judges will just declare it incompatible. Then the Government and Parliament have to try and get more legislation through.
 
Best quote of the whole thing was this one:

The music industry isn't dying its actually growing thanks to downloading over the internet, its the record industry thats suffering
 
Godot said:
Jayme said:
Can they "get" you if you only download? When I want something, I tend to get it from file hosting sites like HotFile and MegaUpload? How can they tell the difference as to whether I'm acquiring something legally or not? I've downloaded stuff my mates have uploaded on them before. Everything is so unclear.

ISPs count what you Upload as "Download" for the sake of their packages. So should you have a 40GB download limit, and you download 20GB of torrent files (following "etiquette" in which you upload at least the same amount you download) then in theory, your download limit will be up. So, from this, it's pretty obvious how ISP's can tell the worst ones. Downloading a 20GB discography, and then uploading it is waving a big "I'm a pirate!" flag really. So, I should imagine it would be harder to catch you if you get via DDL.

However the big issue here is no-one knows what we could be "got" for. Since this is just a Parent Act, it means we're gonna recieve a bit of Delegated Legislation off of the Secretary of State (I do believe that's whom the power is being passed to. I may need to double check). This means that he's gonna have a lot of power to make legislation that will go (effectively) unquestioned by Parliament unless someones appeals against conviction. Best thing we can do is hope that when this Legislation to come through, then allow a bunch of guys with good lawyers who've been "had" to prove the Legislation has gone ultra vires (assuming the Sec. of State abuses power) or that it's not compatible with the European Convention of Human Rights. If either of these happen, a doctrine of incompatibility will (hopefully) be issued, and the Government are back to square 1 for a while. (It wont take so long to re-write the legislation though).

Sorry for the Law jargon above.

TL;DR - Chances are the legislation will impose stupid and desperate laws. The judges will just declare it incompatible. Then the Government and Parliament have to try and get more legislation through.

this is the one and only time in my life that i'll probually EVER use this sentance but


I have faith in the EU
 
Ryo Chan said:
this is the one and only time in my life that i'll probually EVER use this sentance but

I have faith in the EU

LOL!

Same here bro. I hate em, but this time, for once, they might actually do something useful.
 
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