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Ditchdigger said:
Problem is with that is they wont fit on the shelf next to my other manga.
^ Picky
But yeah that seems like the way to go.
What manga are you reading now?
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Problem is with that is they wont fit on the shelf next to my other manga.
^ Picky
But yeah that seems like the way to go.
ilmaestro
State Alchemist
Oh yes, I know it's not the <i>exact</i> same thing, but it's all easily lumped under the cliched banner of "fanservice".chaos said:ilmaestro said:
Aion said:The bonus point of Ai Yori Aoshi is that there's full boob nudity, nipples and all. Very well drawn, too, if I might add. I think the boob factor is the only reason it was serialized in the same mag as Berserk.
DearS does not have much of this. Ai Yori Aoshi characters are much prettier in my opinion.
But I see your point ilmaestro.
Aion
Time-Traveller
It's quite simple, really. Ai Yori Aoshi has heartfelt moments that push the story onwards, where as DearS has nothing. The lead in Ai Yori Aoshi is of the likeable variety, the story itself is, if a tad hard to believe for someone distant from Japanese customs, grounded in reality, I like some of the supporting cast because they have personalities and the art is vastly superior to that of DearS.
Everything Ai Yori Aoshi did, DearS did far worse, and in a far more tasteless manner. That's the real difference. I don't like how Aoi wants to serve Kaoru and calls his -sama constantly - it takes away from the relationship when one side acts so submissive - but it isn't as if she's a slave who wears a dog collar. She wants to do what she does, and that prevents her from being a slave because she has the option of not doing whatever Kaoru wants.
By no means is Ai Yori Aoshi a 10/10 series. I've seen the story of Ai Yori Aoshi before: a male finds a girl, a male moves into a huge house with other girls, the relationship with the girl he wants doesn't advance because of the other girls and, until the end, the story goes around in circle. It's hardly original or anything special. But I can't deny that it's entertaining and fun enough for me to keep reading, regardless of it lacking anything new.
Everything Ai Yori Aoshi did, DearS did far worse, and in a far more tasteless manner. That's the real difference. I don't like how Aoi wants to serve Kaoru and calls his -sama constantly - it takes away from the relationship when one side acts so submissive - but it isn't as if she's a slave who wears a dog collar. She wants to do what she does, and that prevents her from being a slave because she has the option of not doing whatever Kaoru wants.
By no means is Ai Yori Aoshi a 10/10 series. I've seen the story of Ai Yori Aoshi before: a male finds a girl, a male moves into a huge house with other girls, the relationship with the girl he wants doesn't advance because of the other girls and, until the end, the story goes around in circle. It's hardly original or anything special. But I can't deny that it's entertaining and fun enough for me to keep reading, regardless of it lacking anything new.
Aion
Time-Traveller
I've finally managed to read the latest English Claymore release (14). I'm a little confused with regards to the chapter count since there have been 81 chapters and only 77 numbered... I put 81 on MAL because there isn't another manga page on there for me to list the extra chapters.
Claymore's starting to get a little dull now. The mangaka has seemingly ran out of ideas, resorting to introducing new characters and having them take up a chunk of the chapter count, not adding anything to the story. It's battle after battle now, and the lack of any real story progression is taking away from the experience. Without story/action balance, the action starts to lack punch.
Also, in volumes 13 and 14, there were a total of four extra chapters included. The first was an utterly pointless Teresa story, involving her killing the number 2 back then, and the others weren't that great either. You could argue that they filled holes in the story but nothing of any real value was shown - nothing hat wasn't known or couldn't be guessed, anyway. I'm not sure how these extra chapters were used in the Japanese versions but, if they appeared in the same order, it's just another example of the mangaka stringing the story out because of his lack of ideas.
I'm still enjoying it - that hasn't changed. However, I now rate at as more of an 8/10 than a 9/10. It's fallen a long a way since the jump in quality of the Teresa arc. It's such a pity that the Rigaldo fight in the anime appears to be the last great point in the series...
On a brighter note, the description hints at some actual story advancement in volume 15, and Garaki is going to make a comeback. I'm expecting the plot twists to be painfully obvious - something like the organization having created yoma in order to make money - but anything is better than nothing. I've pr-ordered it from Amazon.
Claymore's starting to get a little dull now. The mangaka has seemingly ran out of ideas, resorting to introducing new characters and having them take up a chunk of the chapter count, not adding anything to the story. It's battle after battle now, and the lack of any real story progression is taking away from the experience. Without story/action balance, the action starts to lack punch.
Also, in volumes 13 and 14, there were a total of four extra chapters included. The first was an utterly pointless Teresa story, involving her killing the number 2 back then, and the others weren't that great either. You could argue that they filled holes in the story but nothing of any real value was shown - nothing hat wasn't known or couldn't be guessed, anyway. I'm not sure how these extra chapters were used in the Japanese versions but, if they appeared in the same order, it's just another example of the mangaka stringing the story out because of his lack of ideas.
I'm still enjoying it - that hasn't changed. However, I now rate at as more of an 8/10 than a 9/10. It's fallen a long a way since the jump in quality of the Teresa arc. It's such a pity that the Rigaldo fight in the anime appears to be the last great point in the series...
On a brighter note, the description hints at some actual story advancement in volume 15, and Garaki is going to make a comeback. I'm expecting the plot twists to be painfully obvious - something like the organization having created yoma in order to make money - but anything is better than nothing. I've pr-ordered it from Amazon.
Rena Ryuugu
Oyashiro-Sama
One Piece volumes 7-9
Aion
Time-Traveller
FMA: Volumes 2-5
Best manga ever candidate, depending on how the story differs from the first anime and if the changes are for the better. It might turn out out to be the first ever manga to get top marks from me. Not very likely when I'm picky but time will tell. If not for me judging it against the first FMA anime, I'm sure I'd be describing it as near flawless.
The original anime did execute the more emotional parts of the story better because time was spent. The mangaka instead rushed, not showing Ed's mother at all apart from in a few panels and only showing a few panels of Huhes and Mustang talking. While the pacing is excellent because of this, the death sequences don't have quite the same impact without the added dialogue the anime had.
I'm going to be spending more money I don't have in a physical sense on FMA real soon. It's too good for me not to do so.
Best manga ever candidate, depending on how the story differs from the first anime and if the changes are for the better. It might turn out out to be the first ever manga to get top marks from me. Not very likely when I'm picky but time will tell. If not for me judging it against the first FMA anime, I'm sure I'd be describing it as near flawless.
The original anime did execute the more emotional parts of the story better because time was spent. The mangaka instead rushed, not showing Ed's mother at all apart from in a few panels and only showing a few panels of Huhes and Mustang talking. While the pacing is excellent because of this, the death sequences don't have quite the same impact without the added dialogue the anime had.
I'm going to be spending more money I don't have in a physical sense on FMA real soon. It's too good for me not to do so.
I can agree with you on Claymore manga turning crappy, I haven't read it in well over a year, it's not the series it used to be, but this...
I can justify. Y'see, Monthly Shounen Jump went defunct and the bad died out while the good survived in Weekly Shounen Jump for a period of several monthly chapters until Jump Square's debut in November 2007. So to avoid confusion for new readers these short Gaiden arcs were created until Claymore got its own monthly magazine back.
Aion said:
I can justify. Y'see, Monthly Shounen Jump went defunct and the bad died out while the good survived in Weekly Shounen Jump for a period of several monthly chapters until Jump Square's debut in November 2007. So to avoid confusion for new readers these short Gaiden arcs were created until Claymore got its own monthly magazine back.
Aion
Time-Traveller
Ah, I see. That makes sense. The mangaka turning to the past wasn't a choice he made - it was something he was forced to do. That knowledge makes me think more of him than I was.
What was the last chapter you read? I'm up to the point in the Rabona story where Clare and co are about to kick arse and chew bubblegum.
On another Claymore related note, what's been bugging me is how overpowered Clare has become since the 'jump'.
A time-skip occured, a Berserk-esque 'if you want to leave, beat me' scene was shown, Clare can now fight equally with single digits without using any yoma energy simply because she trained for seven years, despite her being pathetic at the start of the story after training for longer and, to make matters worse, Clare can even outrun Riful.
I was fine with Clare being able to predict the movements of enemies, making up for her lack of skill with insight. I was fine with Clare taking an arm of a high class warrior and being taught how to strike very fast by putting all of her yoma energy into her arm. I was fine with Clare's limbs awakening and not her mind. But for someone as weak as Clare to suddenly be better with a sword than single digits and faster than the elite of the Claymore universe, without using any yoma energy?
What was the last chapter you read? I'm up to the point in the Rabona story where Clare and co are about to kick arse and chew bubblegum.
On another Claymore related note, what's been bugging me is how overpowered Clare has become since the 'jump'.
A time-skip occured, a Berserk-esque 'if you want to leave, beat me' scene was shown, Clare can now fight equally with single digits without using any yoma energy simply because she trained for seven years, despite her being pathetic at the start of the story after training for longer and, to make matters worse, Clare can even outrun Riful.
I was fine with Clare being able to predict the movements of enemies, making up for her lack of skill with insight. I was fine with Clare taking an arm of a high class warrior and being taught how to strike very fast by putting all of her yoma energy into her arm. I was fine with Clare's limbs awakening and not her mind. But for someone as weak as Clare to suddenly be better with a sword than single digits and faster than the elite of the Claymore universe, without using any yoma energy?
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CitizenGeek
Guild Member
Claymore is just mindless fun to me. I really can't imagine getting into it properly, and reading all that nonsense about it that Aion posted above has put me off the manga even more ...
CitizenGeek
Guild Member
Re-reading the start of the FMA manga now that I own the first 3 shiny volumes. No matter how many times I've seen this story (and I've seen it a lot - in the original anime series, in Brotherhood and once before in the manga) it's always enjoyable. Arakawa's art is fantastic, too!
Aion
Time-Traveller
lol @ CG rating FMA 5/10.
FMA 11
Too much build-up, too little progression. The pacing has seriously gone to hell. At least the next volume appears to be an all action one.
Naruto 28 (re-read)
A very good restart to the story. It's just a shame the quality level drops until Naruto becomes a 7/10(ish) manga as it goes on...
Gyo 1
Not as creepy or entertaining as Uzumaki. Seeing a town gradually become worse because of a curse, with some decent main characters, was great. Seeing fish with mechanical legs, having to put up with plain/annoying leads and being told about an awful smell isn't great.
FMA 11
Too much build-up, too little progression. The pacing has seriously gone to hell. At least the next volume appears to be an all action one.
Naruto 28 (re-read)
A very good restart to the story. It's just a shame the quality level drops until Naruto becomes a 7/10(ish) manga as it goes on...
Gyo 1
Not as creepy or entertaining as Uzumaki. Seeing a town gradually become worse because of a curse, with some decent main characters, was great. Seeing fish with mechanical legs, having to put up with plain/annoying leads and being told about an awful smell isn't great.
evangelion rocks
Vampire Ninja
Yotsuba& 3-Awesome!Laughed very hard at the zoo chapter^_^.
Fruits Basket 10-more of the same brilliant storytelling with a couple of interesting developments.
Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei 1-Hilarious,was interesting to read the original stories after watching the anime.
other than that I'm still working my way through Welcome To The NHK 2 and Rosario+Vampire 2.^_^
Fruits Basket 10-more of the same brilliant storytelling with a couple of interesting developments.
Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei 1-Hilarious,was interesting to read the original stories after watching the anime.
other than that I'm still working my way through Welcome To The NHK 2 and Rosario+Vampire 2.^_^
Will-O'-The-Wisp
Cardcaptor
Aion said:
7 years is a long time. Especially when you're training on the harsh mountains of the north, while trying not to emit any Yoma energy what so ever. I don't think you give Clare enough credit =P!
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Pyu To Fuku! Jaguar - Turns out I have 2 or so chapters to catch up on, though I may have to start back a few just to refresh my memory as to what happened last. But wow, Just I thought it couldn't get any more random...
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CitizenGeek
Guild Member
Making my way through Phoenix vol. 3 at the moment. Just about to finish the first story, Yamato, and move on to the second one, Space. Yamato is a clever, enjoyable story, as is the norm with Tezuka. However, I feel he's gone a bit overboard with the humour. Yamato is not a funny story, in fact it has some very serious themes so the very regular humour panels are jarring. They're not particularly funny, either. Other than that, Phoenix continues to amaze me :]
What? :s
Aion said:
What? :s
CitizenGeek
Guild Member
Oh, I didn't notice that. Obviously I didn't intend to rate it as 5/10, I'll just change it to 7/10 now to better reflect my opinion on it I don't know I had it in the "dropped" category either :s
Love Hina is abjectly terrible. I guess it's because boobs don't do anything for me, but there's only so many times the "oh, how dare you look at me naked even though it's really my fault for being naked in the first place!" joke is funny before it gets really old. And that one basic joke is pretty much 80% of Love Hina as far as I can see.
I'd like to read more Kare Kano, but it's too long :/ And the Death Note isn't worth spending time on by reading it when you've already seen the anime.
I don't know I had it in the "dropped" category either :sLove Hina is abjectly terrible. I guess it's because boobs don't do anything for me, but there's only so many times the "oh, how dare you look at me naked even though it's really my fault for being naked in the first place!" joke is funny before it gets really old. And that one basic joke is pretty much 80% of Love Hina as far as I can see.
I'd like to read more Kare Kano, but it's too long :/ And the Death Note isn't worth spending time on by reading it when you've already seen the anime.
Rena Ryuugu
Oyashiro-Sama
Higurashi when they cry volume 1