Studio Ghibli possibly closing?

Slightly off topic (But only slightly) Several people here are talking as if Goro was the 'worst director ever' and 'ruined Ghibli name' well I'm not saying Tales from Earthsea was amazing, because it wasn't. I'd probably give it a par with what I consider Myazaki Senior's weakest film (Porco Rosso) I'd certainly say it was better than My Neighbours the Yamadas and Only Yesterday (and probably Pom Poko as well) I mean, even if Earthsea was average, it is still immencely better than the american attempt at the earthsea story.

So where is all the hate coming from?
 
I actually rather enjoyed Earthsea, though it should be noted that I don't really like Ghibli films, don't know anything about the original Earthsea books and also have really shocking taste (see previous points) :)

My husband has all of the other films and has tried to make me say Laputa is better but it hasn't happened yet. Though it did have better music.

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Rui said:
I actually rather enjoyed Earthsea, though it should be noted that I don't really like Ghibli films
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That actually makes a decent degree of sense (not the part about not liking Ghibli films in isolation, obviously :p ).
 
Well I will comment. Warmaster how can say Tales of Earthsea is better than porco rosso and pom poko, are you mad! Normally I would say well you have different tastes from me and it's all good, but not when you say something like that.

Not only was Tales of earthsea hands down Ghibli's worst film, it was just a bad film in general, which also happened to disgrace the great literature it was based on. I mean even the way they made the characters white in the film when they dark skinned in the book(which the author made a consious point of doing) shows the lack of respect the maker had for the source material. In the end they really managed to muddle up a great story with this film.

Goro clearly has a long way to go and right now I would not trust him with a barge poll.
 
Warmaster said:
Slightly off topic (But only slightly) Several people here are talking as if Goro was the 'worst director ever' and 'ruined Ghibli name' well I'm not saying Tales from Earthsea was amazing, because it wasn't. I'd probably give it a par with what I consider Myazaki Senior's weakest film (Porco Rosso) I'd certainly say it was better than My Neighbours the Yamadas and Only Yesterday (and probably Pom Poko as well) I mean, even if Earthsea was average, it is still immencely better than the american attempt at the earthsea story.

So where is all the hate coming from?
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Porco Rosso Miyazakis weakest movie i dont think so it is one of his best and was total labour of love,everything miyazaki is and was is in Porco Rosso,everything about the film just screams class,along with Totoro as close to perfection as Miyazaki has come to,and as far as Only Yesterday is concerned that is one of the finest dramas ever made anime or otherwise and a masterful piece of work by Isao Takahata and My Neighbours the Yamadas is one of the most charming and funniest movies i have ever seen but hey different strokes for different folks i guess.
 
vashdaman said:
Well I will comment. Warmaster how can say Tales of Earthsea is better than porco rosso and pom poko, are you mad! Normally I would say well you have different tastes from me and it's all good, but not when you say something like that.

Not only was Tales of earthsea hands down Ghibli's worst film, it was just a bad film in general, which also happened to disgrace the great literature it was based on. I mean even the way they made the characters white in the film when they dark skinned in the book(which the author made a consious point of doing) shows the lack of respect the maker had for the source material. In the end they really managed to muddle up a great story with this film.

Goro clearly has a long way to go and right now I would not trust him with a barge poll.
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Fair enough comments for the most part and a perfectly valid opinion - I'm certainly not trying to put my opinions on anyone! (I mean, I think Evangelion is absolutely awful, but that is a different argument all together) However as to lack of respect to source material, Miyazaki Senior is equally, if not more guilty of changing plots and concepts around from original sources - Only the first 1/3 of Howls really resembles the book, Future Boy Conan only shares the barest plot with The Incredible Tide, Kiki was not particularly liked by the original author as being utterly different, etc. I'm sure if this forum was around in the 80s, some of the similar complaints about poor translation of the subject matter would have been directed at Hayao too.

My personal fault with Porco Rosso is that it is too lightweight for its subject matter, and I felt Miyazaki straining to make things action packed while being hamstrung by requirements (not allowed any visable crashes) Also, I think Fio is extremely undeveloped as a co-lead compared to most of Miyazaki's female characters. The film is also too short and some events seem rather squashed up (possibly the cause of Fio's underdevelopment)

I feel Laputa is more faithful showing of Miyazaki's loves for the most part, and Sheeta is a far more developed lead (just one example)

As for Pom Poko, It is not the obvious 'balls' that bother me :p I just felt the tone was rather unsettled. I'm not as much a fan of Takahata's films in general though, there is something about his style that doesn't sit with me. Not saying they are all bad, though I did think My Neighbours the Yamadas was simply not funny most of the time and Only Yesterday was rather aimless (I can do slice of life, but this one never seemed to go anywhere) - though Grave is an undeniable classic (had sore eyes with that one!)

All my opinions again I must add, but my original points still stands that I think Goro has a bit of an undeserved witch hunt going on here. I'm not saying Earthsea is brilliant, it is quite 'wooden' presentation, but it has its moments which I think are quite special.
 
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only guy who can't stand Studio Ghibli and their style, I'm not fussed what happens here either way although I can't see them closing down. If anything the whole thing screams publicity stunt to me.
 
It wasn't a publicity stunt, it's a not reading the whole bloody interview in question.
It read as if Arriety had (note past tense) bombed they would need to close up shop. It didn't so they're fine.
 
Reaper gI said:
It wasn't a publicity stunt, it's a not reading the whole bloody interview in question.
It read as if Arriety had (note past tense) bombed they would need to close up shop. It didn't so they're fine.
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Meh, that's what I get for not reading properly. The moment someone mentions Ghibli my attention span usually dies.

Ah well, at least no one lost their job.
 
vashdaman said:
Not only was Tales of earthsea hands down Ghibli's worst film, it was just a bad film in general, which also happened to disgrace the great literature it was based on. I mean even the way they made the characters white in the film when they dark skinned in the book(which the author made a consious point of doing) shows the lack of respect the maker had for the source material. In the end they really managed to muddle up a great story with this film.quote]

So like an anime The Last Airbender fiasco?
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