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The start of the second series aint too bad, but it ends up being a total trainwreak.
Stick with it though, the ending is unmissable.
Stick with it though, the ending is unmissable.
Kuroki_Kaze said:Hey sorry about the double post. Not entirely sure how I pulled that one off. Goes to show you how unused to posting on forums I really am! Glad the Code Geass anime is raising some talk.
I have to admit I hunted down the first couple of episodes of the second season over the interent as I had to find out what the heck happened at the end of the first and did find that it was a little werid the way it started one year later. However even if the second series turns out not to be as good as the first I gotta find out the conclusion to all the chaos!
Ditto for Niea_7 - Althought I never put that much thought on anything I do for fun, I've lived a few months in Japan as a foreigner living out of Arubaito.ayase said:Good analysis of Niea_7 there Aion. It's scarily almost word for word what I thought...
::makes note to watch Riding Bean so as to be able to weigh in on now inevitable debate::
It's a fairly common thing for me to do (Hell, sometimes I even over analyse things to the point where I think I see meanings which were only in the subconscious mind of the creator, that even they didn't realise they intended) but then I have real trouble putting my explanations of those deeper themes into words - They seem coherent in my head but on a page it looks like the ramblings of someone absolutely stoned out of their head. Maybe anime is even more addictive than I thought...fabricatedlunatic said:It's rare that an anime resonates with me to such a degree that I look under the surface ^_^;
I like the Gunsmith Cats OVAs a lot. So much, in fact, that I paid £13 for each of the three VHS tapes. I used to collect the monthly comics and bought a few graphic novels, but eventually I got bored with the manga. It didn't seem as though it was going to develop into anything more than the fun-but-shallow action series it had been until that point.chaos said:I also recommend the Gunsmith cats OVA's, which you should be able to find very cheap. I've got my riding bean for a quid or two from anime on line. Similar price on Gunsmith cats.
The Gunsmith Cats manga is FAR superior to the anime though. In case you didn't notice, it is still my favourite manga.
To its merits, it's a short series with less than 10 volumes.fabricatedlunatic said:I like the Gunsmith Cats OVAs a lot. So much, in fact, that I paid £13 for each of the three VHS tapes. I used to collect the monthly comics and bought a few graphic novels, but eventually I got bored with the manga. It didn't seem as though it was going to develop into anything more than the fun-but-shallow action series it had been until that point.chaos said:I also recommend the Gunsmith cats OVA's, which you should be able to find very cheap. I've got my riding bean for a quid or two from anime on line. Similar price on Gunsmith cats.
The Gunsmith Cats manga is FAR superior to the anime though. In case you didn't notice, it is still my favourite manga.
The original manga is 8 volumes. the original manga has an actual ending, so I'm considering Burst to be a new series. Burst is 3 volumes long so far, but it's still unfinished.fabricatedlunatic said:Isn't it more like 13 volumes including Burst? I love shallow girls-with-guns action as much as the next person, but only in small doses
Still, the omnibus editions are oddly tempting.
Agreed.fabricatedlunatic said:Isn't it more like 13 volumes including Burst? I love shallow girls-with-guns action as much as the next person, but only in small dresses
Freudian slip?Aion said:I'm going to stay FAR awake from Sky Crawlers
Perhaps I am just a miserable bugger, but I genuinely am better able to express why I *don't* like something that I am able to say why I *do*.
So, "Patlabor 2." A terrorist act sets in motion a chain of chaotic events which threaten to plunge Tokyo into anarchy. Sound interesting? Certainly does.
Too bad it's not.
"Patlabor 2" is very easy to compare to "Ghost in the Shell," except it's nowhere near as engaging. It suffers from "GitS" biggest flaw - idiotically long streams of overblown, expository dialogue which the viewer must strain to pay attention to, not helped by the fact that for the majority of these sequences, the animation is little more than a static shot, or a dull still pan. It doesn't stop there - you will have to sit through a ridiculously complex plot which could have been a lot simpler and not lost anything, and devastatingly, gut-wrenchingly, soul-destroyingly slow pacing that leaves the viewer genuinely *bored*.
It is fair to say the the Patlabor series and movie are not about mecha action, but the amount of Labor action in this film is so disgustingly low that it hampers it even further - those who tell you there is enough action in it are not being truthful. Given the chaotic nature of the story, one would think action was inevitable, yet it has somehow been worked around in favour of boring the audience to tears.
Additionally, the woefully overdone bird imagery of the film - which has no evident *meaning* - is rammed down the viewer's throat in a clumsily-constructed, unending stream which rapidly becomes intrusive and infuriating.
That all said, "Patlabor 2" has it's heart in the right place - it's a meticulous tale that has been painstakingly crafted, with beautiful, atmospheric animation. The problem is, it has been made without regard for the viewers. It's an overlong film, which pretends to be more than it is, because on closer inspection, it's actually about an hour of plot, stretched out into a shockingly empty two-hour movie.
Hardcore anime fans have a tendecy to praise this movie, and, yes, there are elements that are praiseworthy. The intent, if nothing else, is a great one. But the simple fact is, that the final composition of the praiseworthy elements is, bluntly, not a good movie.
Oshii has stated his approach to directing is directly opposite the Hollywood formula, i.e. the visuals are the most important aspect, then the story and the characters come last.