Joshawott said:According to further comments on their Facebook, moving to NTSC would cut out around 50% of the production costs:
This isn't just an issue of timings between UK and ROW releases. It's about cost. If we have convert HD to PAL it also means we have to author the discs from scratch and create the subs from scratch adding an extra 50% to our costs. If we are able to use a US NTSC rep master for DVD and code it to REGION 2 we are saving a lot of money. This means I can acquire and release more new shows to be honest with you in a very challenging retail environment.
Rui said:Didn't we ask about this ages ago and get shot down because they have to redo the discs to add a BBFC logo or something?
If that was untrue, then by all means Manga, please switch to NTSC! Cutting your costs so you moan less and make more profit, while avoiding all of the terrible bugs and conversion issues traditionally introduced when unnecessarily redoing the work; it would be wonderful!
The MVM "Love Hina Spring Special" disc doesn't have the BBFC logo on it (although the certificate for specials collection is on the case). Watch out we got a badass over here?Rui said:Didn't we ask about this ages ago and get shot down because they have to redo the discs to add a BBFC logo or something?
Yes.MikeP said:Shiroi Hane said:..but they do. I can play R2 NTSC DVDs on a UK PS3.
NTSC PS3 don't do PAL, but the reverse is not true.
Are you sure that's true? I find it very unlikely that the playback software would be different.
I can understand most non-HDTVs in the US not supporting PAL, it isn't a useful feature when your country gets almost every possible English release.
Shiroi Hane said:Yes.
When I looked into getting a PS3 I wanted one, ideally, that would play DVDs and BDs from the UK, US and Japan.
The UK PS3 will play UK and Japanese DVDs and UK BDs
The US PS3 will play US DVDs and US and Japanese BDs.
The JP PS3 will play JP DVDs and US and Japanese BDs.
I discovered I'd need at least two, three if I also wanted to play Japanese and US PS2 games.
While the Japanese PS3 will play region 2 discs, it is intentionally locked so it will not play PAL discs. The UK will play NTSC discs, presumably because there are legitimate NTSC discs available here.
I cannot confirm that the slim model stills plays R2 NTSC since I don't have one, but I cannot see why not since they run the same firmware.
Shiroi Hane said:Unless something has changed recently, that is exactly how it is. You get an error message on screen that PAL discs are not supported, both on US and Japanese consoles. It is in the FAQs, and apparently also on the back of the box:
"When outputting DVD content or PS3 system format software in SD resolution, only discs recorded in the NTSC standard can be played."
http://us.playstation.com/support/answe ... ?a_id=1194
Are there any legitimate PAL releases in the US/Japan? I imagine not, since they get nearly everything before us anyway and are a lot less likely to have compatible equipment. Yes they can import stuff the same as we can, but that falls under the same logic as region codes.
Shiroi Hane said:It's not a technical issue but built into the firmware. It will not allow you to play PAL content, either DVDs or SD content on a BD (including menus apparently). There's no such thing as PAL HD.
Manga Entertainment said:- Looking towards possibly releasing further Toei shows as soon as next year. Relationship has been 5 years in the making.
Rui said:Manga gain nothing from streaming and probably see it as detrimental to sales (if anything), so until they get directly involved in the process I doubt they'll be actively unlocking anything for us. Some of the ideas in the AoD thread a while back included incentives for purchasing the DVD version for subscribers, which would likely be the kind of thing to get Manga interested.
It will be interesting seeing how Kaze's DVD versions do once they trickle down from AoD, as it will give them some solid data.