Is it ok for a boy to like girly anime?

CitizenGeek said:
Spyro201 said:
Doesnt mean they WANT to hear them. That goes across the board on most subjects by the way

Aww, poor Spyro. Are you upset that I didn't agree with you in a few threads? It'll be okay, you'll get over it ;]

Nope. Its just recently it seems that more than just me has been getting annoyed at you. Quite frankly, I dont think i'd wanna agree with you. Its far more fun to disagree with you ;]
 
Cago1020 said:
If we're going by this argument, then would that mean anyone who watches series like Cardcaptor Sakura is indulging in moe, as Sakura as a character is cute and you want her to be protected?

Cardcaptor's is not deliberately created with that in mind, though. Rui spoke of "intended moe" and that's what I'm talking about, too.

If we're going by the standards that its dangerous for moe to be around because of the way it shows people to treat others, or the whole perverse aspect, then can we not say that shows like Gantz glamorise murder? It's the same as saying that people kill others because of violent video games - the basic fact is that a person must have some quality in them initially which would make them do so. Something may act as a stimulus to trigger this, but the quality must already be present.

I never said moe was "dangerous". I wouldn't go that far. But it is wrong for people to enjoy that level of overt sexualisation of minors, not so for violence.
 
Spyro201 said:
Nope. Its just recently it seems that more than just me has been getting annoyed at you. Quite frankly, I dont think i'd wanna agree with you. Its far more fun to disagree with you

Why are you boring me with this? How about you stop talking about disagreeing me with and start actually disagreeing with me? ;]
 
CitizenGeek said:
Cago1020 said:
If we're going by this argument, then would that mean anyone who watches series like Cardcaptor Sakura is indulging in moe, as Sakura as a character is cute and you want her to be protected?

Cardcaptor's is deliberately created with that in mind, though. Rui spoke of "intended moe" and that's what I'm talking about, too.

I find it funny that I nearly scream when people talk of Cardcaptors - the editing of that kind of takes away any of the original ideas of clamp, considering the dub tried to make Li the main character...

I don't see how it can be comparable to say that one extreme evil is wrong but another is fine. Why is it that we can easily say that moe is wrong, but people running around slaughtering eachother in anime is alright? How can one evil be condoned, yet another accepted?
 
CitizenGeek said:
Spyro201 said:
Nope. Its just recently it seems that more than just me has been getting annoyed at you. Quite frankly, I dont think i'd wanna agree with you. Its far more fun to disagree with you

Why are you boring me with this? How about you stop talking about disagreeing me with and start actually disagreeing with me? ;]

I do disagree. You say loli etc. is 'wrong', I say its free for the person to decide, just not my thing. However, im not causing a ruckas about it unlike you.
 
Oh good, we still have to draw those lines between MANLY and GIRLY series do we...

Frankly I think the whole thing is moot, you like what you like. Hell, I got abuse for watching sports anime at uni (Hungry Heart: Wild Striker, and Hajime no Ippo have to be two of my favourite series of all time) from the Animesoc (and you can imagine who badly I got the mick taken when I started watching Princess Nine, oh man, that was just a wonderful day of me having to fire back witty quips up to and including a joke about the "eduational" value of the porn on someone's HDD...but I digress).

If you enjoy "girly" stuff then don't let it bother you, because it sure as hell isn't anyone else's business what you like most of the time....although I will say that the whole shota/loli thing really REALLY creeps me out on levels you cannot imagine. Moe not so much, but I still prefer the military chicks (and the Japanese penchant for making them run around in thongs and/or leather, see: Major Kusanagi).
 
xxXXmoomooXXxx said:
*nod nod* you're right, it annoys me when people say that you have to like a spacific type of anime because of your gender!!!!!!!!
::nods in agreement::
I too feel that you are able to watch watever genre you like, despite gender, without being singled out or challenged on the subject. I don't follow any style in particular, I either enjoy an anime or I don't. Everyone will have their own opinion on the subject (obviously) but at the end of the day, if you enjoy it, what does it matter what others say.
 
Im suprised Ryo chan and CG and spyro all managed to have arguments in this thread lmao

Loli...not sure its a good idea to watch but then again each to their own.

People hating on Moe. just leave it, come on its not that bad dammit.

Shotocon (or whatever it was) i have no idea what it is ao cba to say much.

Toddlercon....just wtf were these people who draw it thinking?

In my book....Hentai isn't a bad thing. anyone who thinks it is should read manga sutra 1 its more lulz than anything.

Yaoi.....s'up to you if you like it, personally its not my cup of tea,

A guy/girl watching/reading a girl's/guy's anime/manga is completely normal. people can watch what they want without some mug critisizing.
 
Making it even more meaningless is that here people consider Azumanga "girly" whereas it always felt more aimed at guys to me (and was published in a magazine aimed squarely at males in Japan). It's definitely the kind of series anyone can enjoy though so long as they don't hate comedy. The only person whose opinion matters about what you're watching is your own.

Most of the really good shows have plenty of crossover appeal anyway :) we girls and boys aren't so different from one another.

R
 
Rui said:
The only person whose opinion matters about what you're watching is your own.

Most of the really good shows have plenty of crossover appeal anyway :) we girls and boys aren't so different from one another.

R

Hear Hear to that!
 
Tachi- said:
Im suprised Ryo chan and CG and spyro all managed to have arguments in this thread lmao

One of the above is apperntly used to holding arguments with several people at once ;)

I guess i've no reason to post here really cause, I dont watch loli, or really anything like that :lol: Just some ecchi now and then.
 
Isn't all this hysteria over moe just a double standard, though? I find it somewhat redundant to, on one hand, object to these so-called "unsavory fetishes" of moe, but on the other, to enjoy something like Ninja Scroll, despite its content being just as morally bankrupt, albeit in a different way. So, just as some people are willing to call others perverse for enjoying moe or whatever, I'd retort that it's supposedly just as disgusting to enjoy watching people being stabbed, exploded, eviscerated.

If you look at it like that, you'll realise that enjoying something for what it is, is fine. After all, it's just escapism, not real. I'm not a fan of moe anime, but I'm also not foolish enough to object to it on moral grounds either, because I'm hardly a beacon of moral sanctity myself and just as I might raise complaints about the archetypal moe characterization, someone can just as rightly complain about the blood-thirsty, aggressive nature of my own favourites (Berserk being one).
 
Spyro201 said:
Tachi- said:
Im suprised Ryo chan and CG and spyro all managed to have arguments in this thread lmao

One of the above is apperntly used to holding arguments with several people at once ;)

I guess i've no reason to post here really cause, I dont watch loli, or really anything like that :lol: Just some ecchi now and then.

:lol:
True,

I thought you had a problem with watching ecchi?? :S
 
I see nothing wrong with it at all ^_^ it's your preference, so it doesn't matter really lol. At the end of the day it is just a TV show. You're not hurting anyone but likeing "girly" anime *hugs* so don't worry about it. If people judge you because of it then they're just being immature.
 
Paul said:
Isn't all this hysteria over moe just a double standard, though? I find it somewhat redundant to, on one hand, object to these so-called "unsavory fetishes" of moe, but on the other, to enjoy something like Ninja Scroll, despite its content being just as morally bankrupt, albeit in a different way. So, just as some people are willing to call others perverse for enjoying moe or whatever, I'd retort that it's supposedly just as disgusting to enjoy watching people being stabbed, exploded, eviscerated.

If you look at it like that, you'll realise that enjoying something for what it is, is fine. After all, it's just escapism, not real. I'm not a fan of moe anime, but I'm also not foolish enough to object to it on moral grounds either, because I'm hardly a beacon of moral sanctity myself and just as I might raise complaints about the archetypal moe characterization, someone can just as rightly complain about the blood-thirsty, aggressive nature of my own favourites (Berserk being one).

Never really thought about it that way,

i could say now, if i objected horror animes the way some people to do to Moe, you'd never get a decent Death Note or GITS topic going

maybe it's time to go back at looking at that "ignore user mod" idea from a while back.

Edit:

and from all the pm's i've just cleaned up from yesterday/today i think we can finally say to CG

cg.jpg
 
Ryo Chan said:
Paul said:
Isn't all this hysteria over moe just a double standard, though? I find it somewhat redundant to, on one hand, object to these so-called "unsavory fetishes" of moe, but on the other, to enjoy something like Ninja Scroll, despite its content being just as morally bankrupt, albeit in a different way. So, just as some people are willing to call others perverse for enjoying moe or whatever, I'd retort that it's supposedly just as disgusting to enjoy watching people being stabbed, exploded, eviscerated.

If you look at it like that, you'll realise that enjoying something for what it is, is fine. After all, it's just escapism, not real. I'm not a fan of moe anime, but I'm also not foolish enough to object to it on moral grounds either, because I'm hardly a beacon of moral sanctity myself and just as I might raise complaints about the archetypal moe characterization, someone can just as rightly complain about the blood-thirsty, aggressive nature of my own favourites (Berserk being one).

Never really thought about it that way,

i could say now, if i objected horror animes the way some people to do to Moe, you'd never get a decent Death Note or GITS topic going

maybe it's time to go back at looking at that "ignore user mod" idea from a while back.

Edit:

and from all the pm's i've just cleaned up from yesterday/today i think we can finally say to CG

cg.jpg

Um everyone is kind of getting off topic :?
 
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