Dai
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I feel like I walked in on a stockbrokers meeting...
Gacha Games Thread
Lordhippos
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I think the original General is good now with Sunday but will get powercrept pretty quickly in 3.0, probably not worth spending a lot of time on him.
Lingsha is a great pick up if you need a sustain for sure, glad I got her. Supports in general suffer less power-creep but I know what you mean, each character needs a lot of materials and relic farming, I'm still not caught up yet even on the ones I have.
DoT will probably make a comeback at some point but lacks main support, so yeah kind of shoe-horned in and works OK for now.
Only positive is that you can only really field so many characters at once, think max of 8 with two team things, and nothing needs more currently, so at a certain point skipping characters is fine, or saving to jump a few power levels.
Lordhippos
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Dai
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I wasn't intending to single you out. It's more an observation that there's a night and day difference between the discussion in this thread vs the What Are You Playing thread. That one has people saying what they liked about the games they played and this one is more like a finance department discussing their quarterly statement. I haven't touched a gacha game prior to Infinity Nikki, so this way of approaching games is kind of alien to me.Was it that hard to understand what I said? I don't get it sorry.
Anyone who plays HSR should be able to grasp what I put.
If we're going to complain about stockholder meetings then maybe I should throw in that I feel like I'm walking into an advertising board with your posts sometimes @SAHO
Lordhippos
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To be clear I still enjoy the actual games or I wouldn't play them, but your resources are often more limited in these and you can't get everything that comes out without spending, so part of that enjoyment factor comes from which units you run/invest in where this isn't even usually a topic that comes up for non-gacha games.
I think you'd have a rough time with HSR if you never pulled for characters because the basic set aren't really able to keep up in the current game era so it's a critical component which is baked into the game and how it plays.
These types of games aren't really that deep usually, they have a story and things but they can never end it, so it's more about the content along the way and the events/new chapters and things that get added over time. For HSR we are between patches and the next major update so there isn't really anything else to discuss at this time.
I wouldn't play the games simply for waifu collection, I've dropped games where I didn't click with the underlying game or systems.
This is of course a general gacha thread and if discussing things like pulls or character priorities for HSR bothers people, we could just make an HSR thread for the people that play it.
Infinity Nikki - how does the gacha work? do you need to summon or is it just cosmetics? from what I can tell it looks like more outfit based than anything but I've not played it so don't want to assert that without knowing.
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Dai
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Ah, that makes sense. I wasn't thinking of it in terms of update cycles.
I don't think that's necessary. I pretty much just jumped in at page 39 of an ongoing thread to see if anyone was playing the one game I've tried.
I'm only several hours into Infinity Nikki, so I'm not certain if there's a gacha-fuelled paywall lurking later on. While the gacha is all for clothes for the main character, it's not purely cosmetic. Some outfits have abilities that are used to gather resources for making more clothes. A few of those unlock via the main story early on, but I'm not certain if the gathering abilites obtainable via gacha are exclusive or just early unlocks for things the main story will get to later.
Aside from that, there are fashion battles where you need to assemble an outfit that meets certain criteria. Every piece of clothing has a score based on several stats, so the more clothes you have, the more chance you have of building a high-scoring outfit with the right qualities. The fashion battles aren't mandatory parts of the main story yet, but I do wonder if that will become a factor later on that pushes players towards unlocking more clothes through the gacha system.
The gacha is heavily promoted in the in-game menus, but I don't feel like the mechanics of the game are pushing me towards paying yet. It's only been out a few weeks though, so this could still be the honeymoon period.
As for the game itself, it's a lot of fun so far. Momo is an entertaining companion with a great English voice performance. The world encourages exploration and there's lots to do. The biggest highlight is probably the platforming sections and overall world design. I believe the director of Breath of the Wild is working on the game, and you can really feel that Nintendo energy in places.
It's still pretty glitchy in places. I fell through the ground while riding around on a bike at one point, and there was one time where the cute animal sidekick's eyes disappeared, which was creepy. I haven't run into any quest bugs yet though, so it certainly seems to be in a playable state so far.
Geriatric hedgehog
Death Scythe
The team build and mechanics in these Gacha games do play the main role in their longevity/survival to keep players coming back for more, along with the waifu/likeable character aspect. That is part of the appeal to me but yeah I certainly find it amusing (and at times disturbing!) how much time I can waste away researching the mechanics of upcoming characters heh
Lordhippos
Death Scythe
I think a lot of the developers that make these games have learnt some lessons over the years, you can play most gacha games entirely f2p without issue.
Buying stuff just speeds up things, sometimes by quite a lot, depends how deep your credit card goes.
It's rare to have things truly gated behind paying, normally it's just paying = faster to progress, and in the case of limited characters or skins, it can be fomo where not spending means you can just miss out on things entirely, that is certainly one way they will try and trap you in.
Saying that, I don't mind spending a bit to support games I like but I prefer it when the game itself is also kind of generous with rewards and events, it makes me more inclined to contribute into the game if I am met part way there.
Ultimately though - they want your money
If the game doesn't unlock all the things you need to play and gates some of it behind summoning then it's very much in the traditional gacha sphere.
Exactly! I don't super obsess over it or theory craft into oblivion but I still want my teams to be effective as being able to do the challenges is fun to me, and is one of the reasons I like to build my units up. Some units have good pairings so useful to discuss them sometimes I find.
SAHO
Thousand Master
To a non-HSR/gacha player... Probably
Me personally I wasn't able to comprehend the first paragraph.Which in my case I haven't been keeping up to date with HSR since v1.4 nor been playing gachas (or gaming) as frequently as I used to. It's safe to say I'm definitely out of touch here especially with the newer content in HSR
ToucheIf we're going to complain about stockholder meetings then maybe I should throw in that I feel like I'm walking into an advertising board with your posts sometimes @SAHO
(hire me HoYoverse 
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SAHO
Thousand Master
Speaking of, sending out an invite to @Lordhippos @Geriatric hedgehog since you're both active (playing + discussing) HSR players. As you can see here the lack of grass touching with 20k+ messages since I've opened the thread 
Course, only if youse want to as I'm just inviting so both of you aren't left out
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