BBFC edit Paranoia Agent Volume 3

Paranoia BBFC

This seems like a BIG mistake by the BBFC. Anime fans are already turning to fansubs over UK releases becaues of bad DVD subs and frankly laughable prices (£20 for 3 - 4 episodes? Bah!). All cutting out that 1 min 20 will do is convince more and more people to turn to piracy.
 
DaNiMé said:
Which other anime's have got censored? I thought this was the only one to be censored other than the hentai titles...
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Avoiding hentai, there are a few biys and bobs that I can recall. I won't give all the details as it's all on their site. Also bear in mind that all the ones that are under an 18-cert are not compulsory cuts, and therefore aren't really the BBFC's fault (meaning that the anime company chose to cut it to get a lower certificate):
Shuntendoji ( 18 )
Street Fighter V (12 - despite the fact it went up to a 15 later)
Guyver ( 15 )
Violence Jack ( 18 )
Crying Freeman ( 18 )
Kekko Kamen ( 18 )
Big Wars ( 18 )
Makyu Senjo ( 15 )
Wicked City ( 18 )
Fist of the North Star TV ( 15, 18 )
Mad Bull ( 18 )
Hannape Bazooka ( 18 )

There may be a few more, but I don't remember off the top of my head.
 
Yeah, I heard about that ninja scroll edit. Something about editing out ninja stars? I never understood that. Amongst all the gore and severed limbs they cut out a bunch of ninja stars?

Its even more absurd than paranoia agent, at least they sorted it out though. So perhaps Parnoia Agent may get the same treatment in a boxset or somat, lets hope we don't have to wait for a 10th aniversary addition :lol:
 
Wildcard said:
Yeah, I heard about that ninja scroll edit. Something about editing out ninja stars? I never understood that. Amongst all the gore and severed limbs they cut out a bunch of ninja stars?

Its even more absurd than paranoia agent, at least they sorted it out though. So perhaps Parnoia Agent may get the same treatment in a boxset or somat, lets hope we don't have to wait for a 10th aniversary addition :lol:
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I might be wrong but I think there was actual changes in law between the two Ninja Scroll releases which permitted the BBFC to be more lenient.
 
Its a bit of grey area in the law here though. There is no set in stone law as far as I know which says 'comically handled animated hangings' are to be forbidden. This scene was removed at some boards whim, right?

So I was just thinking that if a boxset of Parnoia agent is released, wont it have to be re-evaluated by the BBFC? Does it really need a change in the law? Or is it a change in opinion required?
 
In fact, if the law could possibly be changed in some way to allow this to go through uncut, then i wouldn't mind waiting till the end of the year to get it, MVM might even re-release it uncut if the law gets changed sometime.
 
Wildcard said:
So I was just thinking that if a boxset of Parnoia agent is released, wont it have to be re-evaluated by the BBFC? Does it really need a change in the law? Or is it a change in opinion required?
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I'm not 100% sure about that law myself so i can't comment on that, but i know that MVM can send it to the BBFC as many times as they want to get it re-evaulated, so if they wanted, they could try and get the law changed themselves, then wait until it is (maybe a few months), then get it re-evaluated, then release it, it's their choice :D
 
As annoying as censorship is it could be worse, however I reckon I'll wait for a boxset on this one. Satoishi Kon is a genius and should be reckonised as a master of psychological suspense.
 
all i can say is i am pissed!
Paranoia Agent is a super cool series. and why the hell does a scene like that have to be edited?
i swear there are much worse (non hentai) anime's out there on the UK dvd market which has not been edited......
*sigh*
i will have to get it anyway, i mean i got the first 2.
 
Not entirely sure what is going on here. Did the BBFC physically demand cuts for any kind of release, or did they insist that cuts need to be made in order for it to be released as a (12) or (15) cert?
 
Laughing Manji said:
Not entirely sure what is going on here. Did the BBFC physically demand cuts for any kind of release, or did they insist that cuts need to be made in order for it to be released as a (12) or (15) cert?
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It's all above...

But anyway... it's some law that makes it a 'compulsary cut', i'm just going to do some looking into this law now, i'll post when i've found something @D
 
Laughing Manji said:
Not entirely sure what is going on here. Did the BBFC physically demand cuts for any kind of release, or did they insist that cuts need to be made in order for it to be released as a (12) or (15) cert?
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Thats the thing, apparently its been bumped up to a cert 18 anyway, which makes this even less acceptable.
 
I found this:

VIDEO RECORDINGS ACT 1984
Videos must be classified by designated authority.
President and Vice Presidents of the BBFC designated by Home Secretary in 1985.
The test of 'suitability for viewing in the home'.
Criminal Justice & Public Order Amendment to the Video Recordings Act 1994
This requires that the Board pays special regard to:

- harm to potential viewers (including potential underage viewers).
- harm to society through viewer's behaviour
- the treatment of:
- criminal behaviour
- illegal drugs
- violent behaviour and incidents
- horrific behaviour or incidents
- human sexual activities





Well, that seems a bit vague doesn't it? But i don't see why everything isn't censored, because the things listed above appear in a lot of things...

Also, i have to say that surely this law can be ammended, because IT'S 22 YEARS OLD FOR GOD'S SAKE! Time have changed and something can be done, oh, and did i mention it was made by Margret Thatcher lol :-D


EDIT: Also, it appears that this whole act was because in 1982/3 there was some big uproar thing about 'video nasties', this really doesn't make sense to me as a lot of other things in this could be classified as the things above..

I found this as well (which is an ammendment to the first act):

Part VII handled 'Obscenity and Pornography', banning imitation child pornography, harshening provisions dealing with the censorship and age restriction of videos

This must be the child hanging herself thing...

All in all, i think it could be time for another ammendment :D
 
Well I can say after hearing this that I have given up waiting on the UK release of this show which has been delayed again an again an now has been cut :x . So alas I have resorted to to just importing the last 2 discs I get them faster an uncut.
 
Re: Paranoia BBFC

Wildcard said:
This seems like a BIG mistake by the BBFC. Anime fans are already turning to fansubs over UK releases becaues of bad DVD subs and frankly laughable prices (£20 for 3 - 4 episodes? Bah!). All cutting out that 1 min 20 will do is convince more and more people to turn to piracy.
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I totally agree!

Plus about the Ninja Scroll thing and the Shiruken, i think it was becomes at the time and still today Shiruken 'Ninja stars' are still banned in this country i don't see how it would make any difference to show or not show them on a anime but still!
 
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Numta said:
Wildcard said:
This seems like a BIG mistake by the BBFC. Anime fans are already turning to fansubs over UK releases becaues of bad DVD subs and frankly laughable prices (£20 for 3 - 4 episodes? Bah!). All cutting out that 1 min 20 will do is convince more and more people to turn to piracy.
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I totally agree!

Plus about the Ninja Scroll thing and the Shiruken, i think it was becomes at the time and still today Shiruken 'Ninja stars' are still banned in this country i don't see how it would make any difference to show or not show them on a anime but still!
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There was a big deal made of ninja weapons (and even the word, "ninja") in general in the late 80s/90s for some reason. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was one particular instance that stuck out in my mind since it had to be reworked to remove the nunchaku and be renamed Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles to get shown in this country. Soul Blade also had to be slightly reworked to replace nunchaku with something that, funnily enough, greatly resembled nunchaku but were called something else (Three-piece-sticks I think it was :p)...

I think some kids watched a Bruce Lee movie or some such and hurt themselves trying to ape it, resulting in a backlash against the overall genre and a stamping down on the imagery of it. A typical kneejerk reaction that has repeated itself time and again. I think parts of the 1984 act is something akin to that kind of reaction, some of which have stuck, probably because they have never really been an issue before or since.
 
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