Anyone here like Lolicon?

Hyaku said:
Pssh, kids. :p
^ says you.

You lot have pretty much just described chav kids and I highly doubt anyone is reading this forum in a set of trackies, short hair with 'go faster' stripes and trying to square up to his own reflection in the monitor.
 
Xelis said:
Hyaku said:
Pssh, kids. :p
^ says you.

You lot have pretty much just described chav kids and I highly doubt anyone is reading this forum in a set of trackies, short hair with 'go faster' stripes and trying to square up to his own reflection in the monitor.
Chavs aren't the only annoying kids.
 
Ramen89 said:
How ironic that a thread about lolicon has turned into one about if children are annoying :lol:
Well they are (and yes teenagers are just as bad if not worse), and this is tbe internet. So if this thread continues for another 3 pages it'll include aardvarks and transformers.
Problem with this thread is that the definition of lolicon wasn't discussed earlier so there was more room for confusion.
 
hopeful_monster said:
Ramen89 said:
How ironic that a thread about lolicon has turned into one about if children are annoying :lol:
Well they are (and yes teenagers are just as bad if not worse), and this is tbe internet. So if this thread continues for another 3 pages it'll include aardvarks and transformers.
Problem with this thread is that the definition of lolicon wasn't discussed earlier so there was more room for confusion.

surely even that can't get you into a topic about chavs and snobby brats without trying to seriously derail the topic?

lets get back on topic or just ask paul to lock it please ^^
 
Ryo Chan said:
surely even that can't get you into a topic about chavs and snobby brats without trying to seriously derail the topic?
That was the inter net comment, the longer a thread goes on the more off topic it gets.
However the confusion over what really should be classed as lolicon is a very difficult discussion. Since anime and manga characters have no real age (no birth certificates etc) the can be given any age the writer desires. Therefore a character can be created who looks twelve (or younger) but is said to be 18. This way the writer can put the character in all manner of situations, but say ' Oh she's 18 that's acceptable, not loli'. It also works in reverse, some characters look 18, but are written as a 13 yr old.
An example of the former (if a bit extreme) is someone like Sasami. Looks Loli, but is according to the story over 16 (actually over 800). Would buying a hentai mag of here be considered lolicon? Not according to her 'age'. An example of the latter would be someone like Asuka Langley (form Eva... duh), Yoko (gurren Largen) or Sakura (from Naruto). Looks (depending on shot) like a 16-18 yr old, but actually 14, 14 and 12(1st part) 15 (Naruto Shippūden) respectively.
Personally i'd say it's what they look like which is the more important, but the given age is also a factor.
 
hopeful_monster said:
An example of the former (if a bit extreme) is someone like Sasami. Looks Loli, but is according to the story over 16 (actually over 800). Would buying a hentai mag of here be considered lolicon? Not according to her 'age'.
Nah, it'd be loli. Given age is irrelevant in such situations.

Ryo Chan said:
lets get back on topic or just ask paul to lock it please ^^
The topic appears to just require just a yes/no post from each person. It's not something people can expand on either - you do or you don't, simple as that.
 
watever way u look at it, its pedophilic porn... there i said it :shock:

but at the end of the day if it works as a substitute for people with a desire to look at REAL pedophilic porn im all for it (Y)
 
In my limited experience with lolicon (read: I've never, ever actually read any) I think it's disgusting, unnecessary crap that should not be allowed. It really, really detracts from how great an artform manga/anime is.
 
skikes said:
watever way u look at it, its pedophilic porn... there i said it :shock:

but at the end of the day if it works as a substitute for people with a desire to look at REAL pedophilic porn im all for it (Y)

Where are you basing this assumption from?
 
CitizenGeek said:
In my limited experience with lolicon (read: I've never, ever actually read any) I think it's disgusting, unnecessary crap that should not be allowed. It really, really detracts from how great an artform manga/anime is.

Thats something not so easily said.
That like saying that real porn takes away from the amazing movies we enjoy just because they exist.
Like all things we dont like,dont get involved in them,take theyre existence with a grain of salt.=D
 
Hyaku said:
skikes said:
watever way u look at it, its pedophilic porn... there i said it :shock:

but at the end of the day if it works as a substitute for people with a desire to look at REAL pedophilic porn im all for it (Y)

Where are you basing this assumption from?

probs the fact that japan has the lowest crime rate of any country in the world
 
skikes said:
watever way u look at it, its pedophilic porn... there i said it :shock:

but at the end of the day if it works as a substitute for people with a desire to look at REAL pedophilic porn im all for it (Y)
I have to agree if it is actually helping stop people abusing real children, but the propblem is, this stuff may actually may get people to think or so the real thing.

Swings and roundabouts really.
 
Xelis said:
I have to agree if it is actually helping stop people abusing real children, but the propblem is, this stuff may actually may get people to think or so the real thing.

Swings and roundabouts really.
Hmm... it's true reading it will desensitise people to that sort of thing, but it doesn't necessarily follow that people will then go out and do the sort of stuff they read about.
 
Ramadahl said:
Xelis said:
I have to agree if it is actually helping stop people abusing real children, but the propblem is, this stuff may actually may get people to think or so the real thing.

Swings and roundabouts really.
Hmm... it's true reading it will desensitise people to that sort of thing, but it doesn't necessarily follow that people will then go out and do the sort of stuff they read about.

Thats where the whole Violent and Bad video game argument comes from as well.

Playing Man Hunt makes you kill, Playing Grand Theft Auto, makes you steal cars by shanking out the people out of their cars.
 
watching/reading lolicon cant implant those idea's into ur head... its not a fetish its a mental disorder and youve either got or dont, no matter how much lolicon u read its not gonna make u see little girls in that light unless those ideas where already there.
 
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