Any good noir or noiresque anime around?

I sure as hell hope he doesn't mean Noir because, though it isn't mind numbingly dull due to people dying every episode in large numbers, it's certainly up there with some of the more dull titles I've had the displeasure of sitting through.
 
Mutsumi said:
Sparrowsabre7 said:
I meant noir the genre, not the animé series or incidentally the weird animated film which is also called "film noir" =P
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Anime doesn't have an accent on the e.
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I thought it could be spelled either way? I just prefer animé since that's how it's pronounced.

As for noir animé/e, I'd say Cowboy Bebop has noir elements, as well as the segment Detective Story in the Animatrix.
 
Eh, when you say you're looking for noir, do you mean as in hard-boiled detective drama or just the film noir style aesthetic?

It seems a strange omission, but I'm not actually aware of that many straight-up detective drama series in anime; certainly not ones you could really consider noir in the way that something like Sin City would be. Monster is probably a good bet if you haven't already seen it though. Possibly Golgo 13 as well, although that would probably be stretching it a bit.

Ironically, "Noir" is probably one of the least noirish series I can think of.
 
Jayme said:
Detective Conan... Seriously, you guys are losing it. Conan is great.
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Are you serious about Detective Conan having a Noir style to it? I've been willing to watch this for a while now, I migth try to get this series soon-ish...
 
fabricatedlunatic said:
The Big O has a noirish atmosphere...

cue debate on what constitutes "Noir"
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I'm watching the second series of The Big O at the moment. While it has a certain element of classic noir detective-story stuff to it, I think it's a bit too bouncy to call it noir proper.

Not that the show isn't fun, y'unnerstand!

I'm hard pressed to think of anything that really fits that description properly.
 
chaos said:
Jayme said:
Detective Conan... Seriously, you guys are losing it. Conan is great.
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Are you serious about Detective Conan having a Noir style to it? I've been willing to watch this for a while now, I migth try to get this series soon-ish...
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Yeah, its quite noir. It depends on the case, but most of the time its very noir, especially towards the end of the episode where Conan is wrapping it all up. There are other elements chucked in obviously, and the supporting cast and their storylines make it something other than a noir sometimes, but the way its all presented and... yeah, its all very noir. Worth a watch, chaos.

I'm not the most experienced person with film noir, though so you might be able to dismiss my thinking with relative ease.
 
There are *elements* of "hard-boiled" detective stories running through a good number of anime (GitS when it focuses on Togusa, Mouryou no Hako at times, Paranoia Agent during the first half of the series, but it's hard to find <i>anything</i> truly "Film Noir". There are some people who would argue that it's no longer even possible to make something truly "Film Noir" anymore, since the key aspect of it was capturing the zeitgeist at the time.
 
Jayme said:
Detective Conan.
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You couldn't expand on that any, could you? Don't get me wrong, I think Conan is a great show and certainly I haven't seen all that much of it, but I wouldn't have said it was particularly noirish or hard-boiled. If anything, it reminds me more of Poirot and Agatha Christie's style of writing.

But yeah, I would agree parts of Stand Alone Complex are pretty close and Ergo Proxy certainly has the look about it, although I've yet to see that one.
 
Either noir aesthetic or HBD stories.

Thanks I'll give Detective Conan a try. Should I start at the beginning or would it be ok to jump in later on? There are a lot of episodes =P
 
I'm not that experienced either, and I've jumped around the episodes as well (early and a later ones). The first episode is the most essential (as is the second, iirc) but a lot of them are stand-alone. It's very rare for the "Men-In-Black / Black Organisation" on-going stuff to actually pop up, and nothing happens really in the first 100. The main developments, as far as I know, throughout the series is different focuses on the supporting characters and introductions of new characters etc etc.

I think with Conan is very case-by-case. Sometimes its all out detective noir, sometimes quite Agatha Christie/Sherlock Holmes and other times its just a bunch of kids trying to work out who stole a bike. I enjoy it though, even if it might not sometimes fit into any of the sections I described.
 
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