anti-paedophile demonstrations and protests

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Shirayuri

Shinigami
CitizenGeek said:
Why is it not okay to exile and make pariahs of those who have compulsions to harm children?
OK, i'll stop you there, because you're wrong there. A pedophile does not wish to harm children. A pedophile is merely attracted to them. Many pedophiles are content watching things similar to loli/shota and use that as their release.

CitizenGeek said:
Seriously, what's the problem? It's not okay to exile homosexuals because homosexuality harms no one. Paedophilia is, by it's nature, about inflicting harm on children.
What I am saying is previously people had misconceptions of homosexuals that weren't true. As I said above, not all pedophiles act on their urges.

CitizenGeek said:
But you still don't see it? You still want to continue saying me and skikkes are more similiar to paedophiles than any straight person?
F*ck off did I say that. I said you could empathize with their situation. They're heavily segregated against, much as homosexuals were. I'm not saying hetero or homo sexuals are anything like pedophiles in the sense you're thinking.

Can't you see what i'm saying, really?

CitizenGeek said:
It's really quite incredible that you don't see how insulting, factually erroneous and downright stupid this point of yours is. You may have a decent argument in there somewhere, but it's completely spoiled by this ******** comparison with homosexuality.
As I said, I only use homosexuality as an example because I thought you could empathize with it. I am obviously mistaken.


CitizenGeek said:
When you're gay or straight, you're compelled to have consensual sex with other people.
No. You're compelled to have sex with other people. Nothing about it being consenting there.

Heterosexual: A person sexually attracted to persons of the opposite sex. Or a person who has sexual relations with the opposite sex.

That definition is from the Medical Dictionary

CitizenGeek said:
If you are a paedophile, then you are compelled to have sex with children and the only way to do that is by raping them.
Dude, yet again, not all pedophiles act on their urges. It's wrong to segregate against someone because they have a feeling or compulsion. Here's food for thought, if you think paedophillia is so depraved; Does one not have the right to be depraved? Pedophiles aren't neccessarily harming others, just having feelings that they have to live with.


CitizenGeek said:
Well, it's just that I haven't expended all of my empathy for paedophiles; I've actually considered what it must be like to be a parent and to know that there's a paedophile living around the corner to your home. Maybe you should try it out?
Contact me in private, and I have an interesting story to tell you.
 

Y-San

Shinki
Aion said:
Just for the record, it's more natural for a male to try to penis a female - young or not - than it is for one man to insert his penis in the **** of another man.

When Allah created us, I somehow doubt the master plan for continuing our species was for one man to make the hole poo comes out of sticky for another man.

...So, yeah, homosexuals should be hunted before kiddy fiddlers. Get to it. We need more 'child raping' and less yaoi in our world.
He's right that its more natural to be hetrosexual only 1 in 7 are gay or Bi

Hunting homo's would be bad though , What if your best friend was gay, would you kill him ?

and on a side note Being legally a child Im not scared for a pedo to try and rape me because I know self defence a good plan for the government would be to help the pedo's to stop there urges and teach children self defense like Karate.
 

Shirayuri

Shinigami
CitizenGeek said:
That is nonsense. There are many laws that attempt to pre-empt crimes. If someone is found out to be planning a terrorist attack on the London Underground, that person will go to jail for a very long time.
CitizenGeek said:
Are you completely devoid of the capacity to pick up on any subtleties at all? I did not mean actual, legal exile to some uninhabited island. I clearly intended that word to be understood as a "social exile", i.e. being treated as an outcast and not being welcomed into any community. There is no problem with treating convicted child abusers in this way
What the **** bro? I think you clearly said laws, so yes, you do mean legal exile. You said they'd go to jail. I'm saying no they wont - they have freedom from arbitrary arrest.

Am I misinterpreting something here? :s

Also, please check your PM box. It'd be nice for you to reply, so I know you've read it and so on.
 
CitizenGeek said:
i.e. being treated as an outcast and not being welcomed into any community. There is no problem with treating convicted child abusers in this way.
But that will drive them underground so that even the authorities don't know where they are. If, that is, the violent mobs don't get to them first.
 

CitizenGeek

Guild Member
Chun Li said:
CitizenGeek said:
Why is it not okay to exile and make pariahs of those who have compulsions to harm children?
OK, i'll stop you there, because you're wrong there. A pedophile does not wish to harm children. A pedophile is merely attracted to them. Many pedophiles are content watching things similar to loli/shota and use that as their release.
No, a paedophile does wish to act on their urges. Everyone wishes to act on almost any compulsion they have ... that's why they're compulsions. Most paedophiles probably have the willpower and the moral sense not to act on them, but they certainly would like to act on them. If paedophiles didn't have these urges and were just compelled to watch lolicon, there'd be no problem. The point is the desire to watch lolicon arises from the desire to have sex with children.

What I am saying is previously people had misconceptions of homosexuals that weren't true. As I said above, not all pedophiles act on their urges.
No has said all paedophiles act on their urges. The point is a paedophile has the capacity to abuse a child sexually. People who are not pedophiles do not have this capacity.

F*ck off did I say that. I said you could empathize with their situation. They're heavily segregated against, much as homosexuals were. I'm not saying hetero or homo sexuals are anything like pedophiles in the sense you're thinking.
Please listen to me this time: homosexuals were (and still are, in Africa, Asia and most especially the Islamic world) persecuted for doing nothing wrong. Paedophiles are persecuted because, by their nature, they seek to commit harm on children. That's the difference. The nature of the homosexual is not to inflict harm, the nature of paedophile is such that he can only inflict harm with any expression of his paedophilia. And besides, this conflation of homosexuality and paedophilia just doesn't stand. Homosexuality arise from biology, paraphilias like paedophilia arise from psychological factors. Big difference.

Furthermore, you don't "segregate against something", you impose some kind of segregation on something (a country, society, etc.). Racial segregation, for example. I know what point you're trying to make, but you're using that term in the wrong way and it's just annoying now :p
 

Y-San

Shinki
fabricatedlunatic said:
CitizenGeek said:
i.e. being treated as an outcast and not being welcomed into any community. There is no problem with treating convicted child abusers in this way.
But that will drive them underground so that even the authorities don't know where they are. If, that is, the violent mobs don't get to them first.
I think the pedo bashing has gone on long enough.
if some one has a problem they should be given medical help and commended for there honesty.

The ones who commit rape should be named and shamed before receiving help and the appropriate sentence.

Hanging some one for acting on natural a horrible idea.
If that was done what go you think would have happened to all the homosexual's who also act on natural urges 20-30 years ago, when this country was more close minded.
 

Shirayuri

Shinigami
CitizenGeek said:
No, a paedophile does wish to act on their urges.
But not all do. That's the point. There is no reason to segregate them for that.

CitizenGeek said:
Paedophiles are persecuted because, by their nature, they seek to commit harm on children. That's the difference.
What i'm saying is they shouldn't get **** just for being a pedophile, they should get **** for committing a crime, not thinking of committing one.

CitizenGeek said:
Furthermore, you don't "segregate against something", you impose some kind of segregation on something (a country, society, etc.). Racial segregation, for example. I know what point you're trying to make, but you're using that term in the wrong way and it's just annoying now :p
Can you rephrase something I said to how it should be read so I can see clearly how i'm supposed to use it? (Genuinely now).

Also, have you read the PM? A reply would be appreciated.
 

Y-San

Shinki
CitizenGeek said:
If paedophiles didn't have these urges and were just compelled to watch lolicon, there'd be no problem. The point is the desire to watch lolicon arises from the desire to have sex with children.
You just shot your self in the foot what you have just said is that it's fine to what loli , but that makes you a pedo and that's a problem
 

kupocake

Stand User
You're a paedophile. You're a nonce. You're a perve, You're a slop badger, You're a two pin dim plug, You're a bush dodger, You're a small bean regarder, You're a unabummer, You're a nut administrator, You're a bent reff, You're the crazy world of arthur brown, You're a fence fole, You're a free willy, You're a chimney bottler, You're a bunty man, You're a shrub rocketeer...
 

Y-San

Shinki
bring in some anime in to this discussion ( is that even possibly your thinking .... well...)

your forgetting about everyone's favorite pedo Mr. Kimura from azumanga daioh , he was a pedo and funny ( in a weird way).

He's a perfectly normal person when he's not around kids

Pedo's are just people that are funny ( in a weird way)

this shows that pedo's can be normal member's of society as well.
 

ayase

State Alchemist
CitizenGeek said:
Chun Li said:
OK, i'll stop you there, because you're wrong there. A pedophile does not wish to harm children. A pedophile is merely attracted to them. Many pedophiles are content watching things similar to loli/shota and use that as their release.
No, a paedophile does wish to act on their urges. Everyone wishes to act on almost any compulsion they have ... that's why they're compulsions. Most paedophiles probably have the willpower and the moral sense not to act on them, but they certainly would like to act on them. If paedophiles didn't have these urges and were just compelled to watch lolicon, there'd be no problem. The point is the desire to watch lolicon arises from the desire to have sex with children.
I think Spyro's point was that paedophiles don't wish to harm children. They undoubtedly do, both physically and mentally, if they do indeed abuse a child sexually, but in general sex crimes are not motivated by the desire to inflict harm such as crimes like murder - they are the result of people being unable to suppress their libido.

If we overlook the whole 'natural or choice' thing for a moment WRT their sexual preferences, are paedophiles who do not abuse children or view real child pornography any different to anyone else (straight, gay or otherwise) who can go without satisfying their sexual urges for prolonged periods of time? I look at pornography and I'm not in a relationship... nor have I been for quite some time. The fact that I would like to have a sexual relationship doesn't make me a potential rapist, does it? In the same way, I don't think being a paedophile automatically makes someone likely to be a sex offender.

What i'm saying is they shouldn't get **** just for being a pedophile, they should get **** for committing a crime, not thinking of committing one.
I approve of this message.

kupocake said:
You're the crazy world of arthur brown
How appropriate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuYK6oWjFpM
 
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