anti-paedophile demonstrations and protests

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CitizenGeek said:
That is nonsense. There are many laws that attempt to pre-empt crimes. If someone is found out to be planning a terrorist attack on the London Underground, that person will go to jail for a very long time.
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CitizenGeek said:
Are you completely devoid of the capacity to pick up on any subtleties at all? I did not mean actual, legal exile to some uninhabited island. I clearly intended that word to be understood as a "social exile", i.e. being treated as an outcast and not being welcomed into any community. There is no problem with treating convicted child abusers in this way
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What the **** bro? I think you clearly said laws, so yes, you do mean legal exile. You said they'd go to jail. I'm saying no they wont - they have freedom from arbitrary arrest.

Am I misinterpreting something here? :s

Also, please check your PM box. It'd be nice for you to reply, so I know you've read it and so on.
 
CitizenGeek said:
i.e. being treated as an outcast and not being welcomed into any community. There is no problem with treating convicted child abusers in this way.
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But that will drive them underground so that even the authorities don't know where they are. If, that is, the violent mobs don't get to them first.
 
Chun Li said:
CitizenGeek said:
Why is it not okay to exile and make pariahs of those who have compulsions to harm children?
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OK, i'll stop you there, because you're wrong there. A pedophile does not wish to harm children. A pedophile is merely attracted to them. Many pedophiles are content watching things similar to loli/shota and use that as their release.
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No, a paedophile does wish to act on their urges. Everyone wishes to act on almost any compulsion they have ... that's why they're compulsions. Most paedophiles probably have the willpower and the moral sense not to act on them, but they certainly would like to act on them. If paedophiles didn't have these urges and were just compelled to watch lolicon, there'd be no problem. The point is the desire to watch lolicon arises from the desire to have sex with children.

What I am saying is previously people had misconceptions of homosexuals that weren't true. As I said above, not all pedophiles act on their urges.
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No has said all paedophiles act on their urges. The point is a paedophile has the capacity to abuse a child sexually. People who are not pedophiles do not have this capacity.

F*ck off did I say that. I said you could empathize with their situation. They're heavily segregated against, much as homosexuals were. I'm not saying hetero or homo sexuals are anything like pedophiles in the sense you're thinking.
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Please listen to me this time: homosexuals were (and still are, in Africa, Asia and most especially the Islamic world) persecuted for doing nothing wrong. Paedophiles are persecuted because, by their nature, they seek to commit harm on children. That's the difference. The nature of the homosexual is not to inflict harm, the nature of paedophile is such that he can only inflict harm with any expression of his paedophilia. And besides, this conflation of homosexuality and paedophilia just doesn't stand. Homosexuality arise from biology, paraphilias like paedophilia arise from psychological factors. Big difference.

Furthermore, you don't "segregate against something", you impose some kind of segregation on something (a country, society, etc.). Racial segregation, for example. I know what point you're trying to make, but you're using that term in the wrong way and it's just annoying now :p
 
CitizenGeek said:
No, a paedophile does wish to act on their urges.
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But not all do. That's the point. There is no reason to segregate them for that.

CitizenGeek said:
Paedophiles are persecuted because, by their nature, they seek to commit harm on children. That's the difference.
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What i'm saying is they shouldn't get **** just for being a pedophile, they should get **** for committing a crime, not thinking of committing one.

CitizenGeek said:
Furthermore, you don't "segregate against something", you impose some kind of segregation on something (a country, society, etc.). Racial segregation, for example. I know what point you're trying to make, but you're using that term in the wrong way and it's just annoying now :p
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Can you rephrase something I said to how it should be read so I can see clearly how i'm supposed to use it? (Genuinely now).

Also, have you read the PM? A reply would be appreciated.
 
You're a paedophile. You're a nonce. You're a perve, You're a slop badger, You're a two pin dim plug, You're a bush dodger, You're a small bean regarder, You're a unabummer, You're a nut administrator, You're a bent reff, You're the crazy world of arthur brown, You're a fence fole, You're a free willy, You're a chimney bottler, You're a bunty man, You're a shrub rocketeer...
 
CitizenGeek said:
Chun Li said:
OK, i'll stop you there, because you're wrong there. A pedophile does not wish to harm children. A pedophile is merely attracted to them. Many pedophiles are content watching things similar to loli/shota and use that as their release.
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No, a paedophile does wish to act on their urges. Everyone wishes to act on almost any compulsion they have ... that's why they're compulsions. Most paedophiles probably have the willpower and the moral sense not to act on them, but they certainly would like to act on them. If paedophiles didn't have these urges and were just compelled to watch lolicon, there'd be no problem. The point is the desire to watch lolicon arises from the desire to have sex with children.
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I think Spyro's point was that paedophiles don't wish to harm children. They undoubtedly do, both physically and mentally, if they do indeed abuse a child sexually, but in general sex crimes are not motivated by the desire to inflict harm such as crimes like murder - they are the result of people being unable to suppress their libido.

If we overlook the whole 'natural or choice' thing for a moment WRT their sexual preferences, are paedophiles who do not abuse children or view real child pornography any different to anyone else (straight, gay or otherwise) who can go without satisfying their sexual urges for prolonged periods of time? I look at pornography and I'm not in a relationship... nor have I been for quite some time. The fact that I would like to have a sexual relationship doesn't make me a potential rapist, does it? In the same way, I don't think being a paedophile automatically makes someone likely to be a sex offender.

What i'm saying is they shouldn't get **** just for being a pedophile, they should get **** for committing a crime, not thinking of committing one.
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kupocake said:
You're the crazy world of arthur brown
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How appropriate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuYK6oWjFpM
 
Haha, where the **** are the admins? If you need to blackmail someone to stop bullying you, I think it's time to get some proper administration done.
 
I know these feckless admins long enough to realise that no amount of personal bullying or homophobia will compel them to ban Aion. I just want that picture taken off this thread, just like ayase's was.

It's funny that Aion was actually puzzled when everyone immediately suspected him following the ordeal that RetroRainbow was put through. He's a piece of **** asshole who cares not one iota for the wellbeing of others.
 
@CitizenGeek: Apologies for taking so long to get rid of the image, I've been away all day so i've not had access to the site. I can't keep an eye on the site 24/7, or even as much as i could previously because of how busy i am now with uni, however i will be here when i can. If for whatever reason there is something that bothers people for whatever reason, PM me, i will get it as soon as i get on and i WILL deal with it then and there. You can laugh at that if you will, but i'm serious.

Think of this as a bit of advise overall from me for everyone. I may not be about all day every day, but i sure as hell can make it on at some point.


Now in relation to the "topic", i see it's gone to pot, so i'm closing this also, at least until i've properly cleaned it up.
 
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