A Rant About My School

[shira]

Biggest problem there is i'm over 16 so I can get done as an adult.

With all due respect, I'd like to hope you're against taking highly drastic measures.

Yeah. I am.

 

[Charter_Mage]

I think what your second point demonstrates is that our country has no idea how to deal with the issue of the environment, the whole world is a complete shambles on this point. I was just having a rant about this yesterday.
I take a night class at my old school and what always gets me as I walk through the dark building is how every single computer, in every single classroom is left lighting up the place.
Schools leave their computers running during the day because it’s more energy efficient than switching them off and on with every class, but I have no idea why they can’t at least switch the damn monitors off! And why on earth do the computers still need to be left on until 9 at night!
Your teacher had a bit of a overreaction to you switching that light on, but she was probably just tired of telling people the same thing over and over.
I agree there should be lighting in closed off areas like corridors, but I really don’t agree with lights being on in the daytime in places that have moderate natural light. The whole world seems to be constantly lit up!

 

[ayase]

On the environmental side I agree with the whole idea of recycling and not being wasteful of raw materials, but with energy I really don't know what all the fuss is. While we're burning fossil fuels it's bad sure, but I imagine it'll all be renewable and nuclear soon enough and then we can waste away to our heart's content. Then we can attach desalinisation plants to the nuclear plants and waste as much water as we like too. As for the nuclear waste issue, why don't we just seal it up really well and fire it into space?

Even if energy generation does all become sustainable in the UK, or even Europe - how do people intend to stop developing countries like China and India from polluting? Economic sanctions? War? That doesn't seem likely if they're going to be the powerful ones. I don't imagine humanity is far sighted enough to stop using fossil fuel until there is literally none left to burn. Even if that causes the climate and makeup of the atmosphere to change beyond recognition, I imagine we'll genetically engineer future generations to withstand it (kinda like the Omar in Deus Ex: Invisible War).

Just my ever controversial twopenn'orth on the environment

 

[CopperAlloy]

Biggest problem there is i'm over 16 so I can get done as an adult.

With all due respect, I'd like to hope you're against taking highly drastic measures.

Yeah. I am.

Then be prepared for the problems to never go away, and probably be mugged and/or killed by the same people who caused problems at your school. It's schools with lazy teachers and all the free houses the Government give to chavs that is starting to bring down this country. They just don't know how lucky they are.

Also, on Environmentalism, I hate NIMBYs. I'd love a windfarm near my house. I live on the edge of the 'burbs and not far away there's just farmland as far as you can see. Windfarms would give the area an awesome, futuristic look. Sadly, we don't get enough wind to make a windfarm useful.

 

[Arbalest]

Biggest problem there is i'm over 16 so I can get done as an adult.

With all due respect, I'd like to hope you're against taking highly drastic measures.

Yeah. I am.

Then be prepared for the problems to never go away, and probably be mugged and/or killed by the same people who caused problems at your school. It's schools with lazy teachers and all the free houses the Government give to chavs that is starting to bring down this country. They just don't know how lucky they are.

Also, on Environmentalism, I hate NIMBYs. I'd love a windfarm near my house. I live on the edge of the 'burbs and not far away there's just farmland as far as you can see. Windfarms would give the area an awesome, futuristic look. Sadly, we don't get enough wind to make a windfarm useful.

So you're saying the only way to deal with chavs and bullies is to kill them or otherwise result to violence? No offense, but that is the most stupid idea i've heard on the subject in a long time. I was bullied for the better part of my school like. Through Primary 1 to probably about S4 of High school. I never once dropped down to their level and attacked them, and never had the thought crossed my mind. Bullies are bullies, no matter where you go, what you do, there will be some form of bully there, they aren't something that can just be swept under the carpet never to be seen again, it also doesn't mean you can't deal with them either. I was lucky in that i was able to completely ignore them 95% of the time, only getting bad a couple of times and that usually involved my brother as well.

My advise would be this. Don't just go and try to fight them like they would you, thats dropping to their level and basically making you just as bad as them. It doesn't matter who started it, thats just an excuse. I advise ignoring them as much as possible, keeping your distance whereever possible, and most of all, keeping a calm and collected mindset. Ok that may sound a tad cliché/used many a time before, but it worked wonders for me. If you get near snapping point, find something else to get rid of the anger/stress its caused...say...for me for example a good fighting game or perhapsa stress ball could be good, whatever you find best. Just don't fight them at all or even taunt/give them a reason to want to fight you, as it makes things worse.

 

[Charter_Mage]

On the environmental side I agree with the whole idea of recycling and not being wasteful of raw materials, but with energy I really don't know what all the fuss is. While we're burning fossil fuels it's bad sure, but I imagine it'll all be renewable and nuclear soon enough and then we can waste away to our heart's content.

Lol, i think thats what everyone is thinking. But i don't see the world making any big changes towards remewable energy any time soon. For years everyone has been talking about it, but nothing ever happens. Nothing will happen until we are all up to our knees in water.

I think one of the big issues is that everyone wants renewable energy, but no one wants it in their backyard, they would much prefer it to be blocking someone elses view, lol.
Unfortunately the economic crisis had to come about also. Which means countries don't have the money to invest in the environmental issue, and everyone has their minds on their wallets instead of the icecaps.

 

[BlackWolf]

Biggest problem there is i'm over 16 so I can get done as an adult.

With all due respect, I'd like to hope you're against taking highly drastic measures.

Yeah. I am.

Then be prepared for the problems to never go away, and probably be mugged and/or killed by the same people who caused problems at your school. It's schools with lazy teachers and all the free houses the Government give to chavs that is starting to bring down this country. They just don't know how lucky they are.

Also, on Environmentalism, I hate NIMBYs. I'd love a windfarm near my house. I live on the edge of the 'burbs and not far away there's just farmland as far as you can see. Windfarms would give the area an awesome, futuristic look. Sadly, we don't get enough wind to make a windfarm useful.

So you're saying the only way to deal with chavs and bullies is to kill them or otherwise result to violence? No offense, but that is the most stupid idea i've heard on the subject in a long time. I was bullied for the better part of my school like. Through Primary 1 to probably about S4 of High school. I never once dropped down to their level and attacked them, and never had the thought crossed my mind. Bullies are bullies, no matter where you go, what you do, there will be some form of bully there, they aren't something that can just be swept under the carpet never to be seen again, it also doesn't mean you can't deal with them either. I was lucky in that i was able to completely ignore them 95% of the time, only getting bad a couple of times and that usually involved my brother as well.

My advise would be this. Don't just go and try to fight them like they would you, thats dropping to their level and basically making you just as bad as them. It doesn't matter who started it, thats just an excuse. I advise ignoring them as much as possible, keeping your distance whereever possible, and most of all, keeping a calm and collected mindset. Ok that may sound a tad cliché/used many a time before, but it worked wonders for me. If you get near snapping point, find something else to get rid of the anger/stress its caused...say...for me for example a good fighting game or perhapsa stress ball could be good, whatever you find best. Just don't fight them at all or even taunt/give them a reason to want to fight you, as it makes things worse.

i agree with all of this, you should never lower yourself to their level of sub human standards, otherwise you'll be no better then them and you'll become something you hate.

 

[evangelion rocks]

Biggest problem there is i'm over 16 so I can get done as an adult.

With all due respect, I'd like to hope you're against taking highly drastic measures.

Yeah. I am.

Then be prepared for the problems to never go away, and probably be mugged and/or killed by the same people who caused problems at your school. It's schools with lazy teachers and all the free houses the Government give to chavs that is starting to bring down this country. They just don't know how lucky they are.

Also, on Environmentalism, I hate NIMBYs. I'd love a windfarm near my house. I live on the edge of the 'burbs and not far away there's just farmland as far as you can see. Windfarms would give the area an awesome, futuristic look. Sadly, we don't get enough wind to make a windfarm useful.

So you're saying the only way to deal with chavs and bullies is to kill them or otherwise result to violence? No offense, but that is the most stupid idea i've heard on the subject in a long time. I was bullied for the better part of my school like. Through Primary 1 to probably about S4 of High school. I never once dropped down to their level and attacked them, and never had the thought crossed my mind. Bullies are bullies, no matter where you go, what you do, there will be some form of bully there, they aren't something that can just be swept under the carpet never to be seen again, it also doesn't mean you can't deal with them either. I was lucky in that i was able to completely ignore them 95% of the time, only getting bad a couple of times and that usually involved my brother as well.

My advise would be this. Don't just go and try to fight them like they would you, thats dropping to their level and basically making you just as bad as them. It doesn't matter who started it, thats just an excuse. I advise ignoring them as much as possible, keeping your distance whereever possible, and most of all, keeping a calm and collected mindset. Ok that may sound a tad cliché/used many a time before, but it worked wonders for me. If you get near snapping point, find something else to get rid of the anger/stress its caused...say...for me for example a good fighting game or perhapsa stress ball could be good, whatever you find best. Just don't fight them at all or even taunt/give them a reason to want to fight you, as it makes things worse.

i agree with all of this, you should never lower yourself to their level of sub human standards, otherwise you'll be no better then them and you'll become something you hate.

Also in agreement.If you were to resort to violence,you would be just as bad if not worse than the offending party and you don't want to be on their level.

 

[Otaku-san]

lol i have to admit spyro your schools a riot

these poor poor government funded schools

 

[ayase]

My advise would be this. Don't just go and try to fight them like they would you, thats dropping to their level and basically making you just as bad as them. It doesn't matter who started it, thats just an excuse. I advise ignoring them as much as possible, keeping your distance whereever possible, and most of all, keeping a calm and collected mindset. Ok that may sound a tad cliché/used many a time before, but it worked wonders for me. If you get near snapping point, find something else to get rid of the anger/stress its caused...say...for me for example a good fighting game or perhapsa stress ball could be good, whatever you find best. Just don't fight them at all or even taunt/give them a reason to want to fight you, as it makes things worse.

You're probably right on those points Arby (and I more or less echo your experiences with bullying) but the problem I've always had with not fighting back is that it leaves you to absorb both your and others' anger yourself, and I've never thought of that as either fair or healthy. They get rid of their anger on you, then you end up with double yourself, and if you don't get rid of it somehow... well I think that's often why things like school shootings happen. Emotions need some sort of release valve lest they lead to some kind of mental damage. Violent games and the like help, but really I do to some extent believe that anger should be directed where it's deseved. Do unto others should work both ways - and if authority won't help you then you're pretty screwed. You either have to grin and bear it, hurting yourself - or inflict it back on them or someone else, hurting others.

 

[shira]

My advise would be this. Don't just go and try to fight them like they would you, thats dropping to their level and basically making you just as bad as them. It doesn't matter who started it, thats just an excuse. I advise ignoring them as much as possible, keeping your distance whereever possible, and most of all, keeping a calm and collected mindset. Ok that may sound a tad cliché/used many a time before, but it worked wonders for me. If you get near snapping point, find something else to get rid of the anger/stress its caused...say...for me for example a good fighting game or perhapsa stress ball could be good, whatever you find best. Just don't fight them at all or even taunt/give them a reason to want to fight you, as it makes things worse.

You're probably right on those points Arby (and I more or less echo your experiences with bullying) but the problem I've always had with not fighting back is that it leaves you to absorb both your and others' anger yourself, and I've never thought of that as either fair or healthy. They get rid of their anger on you, then you end up with double yourself, and if you don't get rid of it somehow... well I think that's often why things like school shootings happen. Emotions need some sort of release valve lest they lead to some kind of mental damage. Violent games and the like help, but really I do to some extent believe that anger should be directed where it's deseved. Do unto others should work both ways - and if authority won't help you then you're pretty screwed. You either have to grin and bear it, hurting yourself - or inflict it back on them or someone else, hurting others.

I intend to do basically what you say here Ayase. I'm frankly sick of it and authority won't do anything. I've started lifting weights so i've got more of a chance with them when they do start next, and intend to show them how I feel about them. The great thing about my schools **** attitude is, you can pummel 'em half to death, or punch them once, as long as it doesnt 'look too bad' (Under the clothes- not face) then its the same punishment.

Also I went to check out the Sixth Form i'm intending to go to, and it looks great. Srsly- The Sixth Form block in my school is 2 wrecked rooms with about 3 computers and paint peeling off of the walls- on the other hand the new Sixth Form i'm moving to has a Sixth Formers building with 2 full sized classrooms, a medium size soundproofed room (If you wanna go play cards or something while listening to music), a television, a microwave, a toaster, a fridge and a sofa. Also there's a sixth form ICT Suite in the main building that has about 30 computers.

Oh- it's all clean too, fresh, nice, light paint, unlike the peeling off paint at my school. No joke, in the sixth form block, they got a load of kids to paint thier hands in poster paint and put em up on the wall. THATS the wall 'decoration'.

I can't wait to move. I'm so knuckling down and getting my grades to move to this place. They've said they'll accept me too, basically

 

[ayase]

Don't get me wrong Spyro, I'm not advocating any particular course of action - I think both are equally bad it just depends on who it's bad for. You can keep the anger and attempt to deal with it in your head or pass it along down the line. I do think the first requires a great deal of willpower to actually work and not cause yourself more suffering though. We're talking Dalai Lama or Gandhi here.

It's good you're getting out of there and going somewhere new though, a fresh start can be very liberating. I did the same and went to a college further away where no-one knew me. I didn't stick College out though, tried three different ones and it just never worked for me. Once I wasn't forced into education anymore I no longer saw the point of having to learn inside a system created by other people. I prefer to teach myself anything I want to know at my own pace in my own way, even if it doesn't result in any qualifications at the end of the day.

 

[shira]

Don't get me wrong Spyro, I'm not advocating any particular course of action - I think both are equally bad it just depends on who it's bad for. You can keep the anger and attempt to deal with it in your head or pass it along down the line. I do think the first requires a great deal of willpower to actually work and not cause yourself more suffering though. We're talking Dalai Lama or Gandhi here.

It's good you're getting out of there and going somewhere new though, a fresh start can be very liberating. I did the same and went to a college further away where no-one knew me. I didn't stick College out though, tried three different ones and it just never worked for me. Once I wasn't forced into education anymore I no longer saw the point of having to learn inside a system created by other people. I prefer to teach myself anything I want to know at my own pace in my own way, even if it doesn't result in any qualifications at the end of the day.

Well i'm happy to take some punishment and get revenge, as such. I'm not Ghandi lol.

And yeah- I'm glad i'm getting out of there too. Out of interest, can I ask what job you have?

 

[ayase]

And yeah- I'm glad i'm getting out of there too. Out of interest, can I ask what job you have?

Currently none. Have worked at retail and desk jobs and am now attempting to start my own bookshop. It combines something I have knowledge about and passion for with something that can actually make some money. I'll continue attempting to knock some of my writing into shape fit to be published one day - that'll always be the dream.

One of these days though I know I'll pack it all in, see how much cash everything I have is worth and go wandering the world again like my forum namesake... That's where I feel I belong really. Society is shite and the only way to truly live is detached from it. I much prefer to be on the outside looking in, and hope it never traps me to the extent I can't escape from it.

 

[shira]

And yeah- I'm glad i'm getting out of there too. Out of interest, can I ask what job you have?

Currently none. Have worked at retail and desk jobs and am now attempting to start my own bookshop. It combines something I have knowledge about and passion for with something that can actually make some money. I'll continue attempting to knock some of my writing into shape fit to be published one day - that'll always be the dream.

One of these days though I know I'll pack it all in, see how much cash everything I have is worth and go wandering the world again like my forum namesake... That's where I feel I belong really. Society is shite and the only way to truly live is detached from it. I much prefer to be on the outside looking in, and hope it never traps me to the extent I can't escape from it.

I hope it goes well for you bra'.

 

[Tachi]

Ghandi's a bellend lol

being all peaceful and for what? in the end he got a title as the guy who got assasinated.....why bother being such a wimp lol

well carry on the weight sessions and then just bide your time, like ayase said, two paths...one...kick their arses, i've seen em and they look weak. OR you can just ignore em and in 20 years at the reunion go back and say "hello ********.....i've done this with my life....and your still a moron on the dole with a social status of a hermit......glad you picked on me....it pushed me to do far better things than you"

or just do abit of both haha

okay in year 11 i stayed behind to finish coursework on my own.....a guy who's in the year below me.....thinking he would show off to his 3 friends hiding under their hoodies. it was winter so it was pretty dark.....this lad punched me in the face and told me to drop like a bitch......i stood to the side holding my face with one arm and balancing myself with the other. he walked off laughing.

i walked home bleeding, using my blazer's sleeve to try and supress the nose bleed. got in and my mum was horrified.
i washed up. and went and sat in the cold air outside.

to this day i haven't hit him. nothing at all....i've had plenty of chances, but in all honesty....my life doesn't revolve around a jerk. so live and let die.

 

[shira]

Ghandi's a bellend lol

being all peaceful and for what? in the end he got a title as the guy who got assasinated.....why bother being such a wimp lol

well carry on the weight sessions and then just bide your time, like ayase said, two paths...one...kick their arses, i've seen em and they look weak. OR you can just ignore em and in 20 years at the reunion go back and say "hello ********.....i've done this with my life....and your still a moron on the dole with a social status of a hermit......glad you picked on me....it pushed me to do far better things than you"

or just do abit of both haha

okay in year 11 i stayed behind to finish coursework on my own.....a guy who's in the year below me.....thinking he would show off to his 3 friends hiding under their hoodies. it was winter so it was pretty dark.....this lad punched me in the face and told me to drop like a bitch......i stood to the side holding my face with one arm and balancing myself with the other. he walked off laughing.

i walked home bleeding, using my blazer's sleeve to try and supress the nose bleed. got in and my mum was horrified.
i washed up. and went and sat in the cold air outside.

to this day i haven't hit him. nothing at all....i've had plenty of chances, but in all honesty....my life doesn't revolve around a jerk. so live and let die.

Thing is though; these bastards have been doing **** like this to me for 5 years- I think its time i snapped

 

[Arbalest]

Thing is, its not always best to let yourself snap. You've lasted this long without doing so, so why not just a little bit longer? Seriously i still think its dropping down to their level, and i know that if i where to do something like that now, regardless of who it is, i'll usually get miffed at myself for taking my anger out on them.

@Ayase: on the note of not letting anger out..yeah its not always best, as it does build up a lot inside..i know that one a fair bit, but i'm lucky in that i've had good chances to let my anger out without going to such measures. Sure i've probably got some built up, but i expect to some extent everyone does.

 

[Charter_Mage]

A thousand times when i was at school did i daydream about breaking a chair over many of my bullies heads, lol.
But you know, you won't be the one that comes out laughing. You can guarantee you will be the one that gets in more trouble.
Or on the other hand you could end up as one of the many, many stories you hear on the news, another poor kid whos been knifed to death. People are becoming more and more violent, and they just don't seem to care if they will ruin their life by having to spend half of it in prison.

 

[CopperAlloy]

- and if authority won't help you then you're pretty screwed. You either have to grin and bear it, hurting yourself - or inflict it back on them or someone else, hurting others.

And, unless you have one of those one-in-a-million Teachers who actually earns their ridiculous pay, authority will never help you. It's too much hassle on their part. Maybe they'll stuff the bastards away in Isolation when the Inspectors come around, but they'll be let out the second the inspectors leave.

So, do you want to cause damage to yourself and society by "grin and bare it", or do you want to do what's right and show them that there is a moral steadfast to this world, and that steadfast is you?