Why Pom Poko doesn't suck...

Neon-Noir

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Pom Poko (Heisei tanuki gassen pompoko) has received a pretty harsh review on this site – which is fair enough, I’m not arguing – I just feel that those poor Raccoons need to be defended. So if you were debating whether or not to make a purchase on this wonderful Ghibli title, or if it had escaped your radar completely, then now’s a good time to remember it – and why you should consider it at least in the same breath as the more high brow Ghibli fare.

Read the review: http://www.animeuknews.net/viewreview.php?showreview=283

I was inspired by a comment by kupoartist, one which I’m still in two minds about…

Pom Poko got a bit too harsh of a review (4/10), mainly because in the context of the other reviews it's nowhere near as bad as the few titles that have been rated similarly (Gundam F91 is frankly an atrocity). But I certainly concede that it's a sub-par Ghibli movie.

Anyway, onto why its not really all that bad a Ghibli film:

Drawing on the Japanese folklore of the tanuki (the fat, happy Raccoon that welcomes you outside Japanese restaurants) Pom Poko raises some prominent issues and addresses them from a rather unorthodox perspective, choosing not to focus its narrative primarily on a stereotypical saving the forest plot, but rather, the dichotomy that arises when such a plan is put into action.

There is no denying that this is a text for the more adventurous, and dare I say, strongly committed Ghibli-fans, as Jo Sarsam points out, but if you’re willing to research a little, it’s a text every type of otaku really can take a lot away from.

I don’t pretend to be the oracle of animation, but some of the main problems that would face a more casual viewer (which I guess it could be said I am too), are as follows:

Constant references to Japanese culture and history alienate a western audience:

The cultural references of Pom Poko, including the mythology behind the tanuki, can leave more than a little lost in translation, but surely part of the Otaku way/trend is discovering more about Japanese culture… There is an abundance of symbols and tableau’s with which to explore – shouldn’t it be something like a kid in a sweet shop? I didn’t have a clue what the young Samurai who shot the fan was all about, and so I looked it up – learning something new about Japan. This is something I never felt compelled to do with Spirited Away, Howl’s Moving Castle or Mononoke (Symbolism which although offering more with, could be understood without a good knowledge of Japanese myths and deities).

The means by which the animation and narrative characterises the tanuki:

This is an interesting point of debate; yes, they come across as lazy and apathetic, but that is explained, upon which it adds to the comedy and, to a point, pathos. Although they may at first bring to mind “care bearsâ€
 
I thought Pom Poko was a very good film, more ambitious then most of their works with it's story/message and brillianty imaginative with the Tanuki's shape shifting.
 
Im with you Pom Poko is a great film, not only does it prove how diverse a director he is but its a great film on its own
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Poko

I enjoyed the film, but didn't rate it as highly as other Ghibli films. That's not a bad thing though really, I just didn't enjoy it as much as the others. I'd still give it 8/10 or thereabouts. I think I need to watch it again though to fully appreciate the little details.
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Well I watched this friday, didn't really know what to expect as I hadn't really read up on it, but I thought it was funny and charming, maybe a lil too long but enjoyable none the less
 
I like pom poko, funny and clever, if a little crass at times.

However i was rather disapointed by My Neighbours the Yamadas. I expected something distinctly madcap, but there was either a) very little humour or b) somewhere along the line the dubbers missed out the humour. Personally i'd go with a) but i'm still rather disapointed with that one :(
 
Humour

I suspect there's more humour to be found in Yamadas if you're familiar with Japanese customs. I'm not, so I can't really comment, but I've certainly read reviews where this fact is pointed out.

Personally I found some of it quite funny and perhaps may have in places assumed certain things about Japanese customs to make it funnier, I'm not sure. Still there was plenty that related to every family in the world which made it quite funny.

Having said that, I still feel it was one of the weaker Ghibli movies. I've yet to see Only Yesterday, but would say that with the exception of Fireflies, Takahata's Ghibli movies seem a little weaker than Miyazaki's. That's just my opinion though, I know a fair few disagree.
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Re: Humour

ssxpro said:
I suspect there's more humour to be found in Yamadas if you're familiar with Japanese customs. I'm not, so I can't really comment, but I've certainly read reviews where this fact is pointed out.

Personally I found some of it quite funny and perhaps may have in places assumed certain things about Japanese customs to make it funnier, I'm not sure. Still there was plenty that related to every family in the world which made it quite funny.

Having said that, I still feel it was one of the weaker Ghibli movies. I've yet to see Only Yesterday, but would say that with the exception of Fireflies, Takahata's Ghibli movies seem a little weaker than Miyazaki's. That's just my opinion though, I know a fair few disagree.

I would say Takahata's are more experimental than Miyazaki's. All of Takahata's films are very different, Miyazaki's can generally be slotted into the 'epic' camp (Nausicaa, Mononoke, and possibly Howls and Laputa) and the more children orientated. (each persons own though) However while experimentation is good, it doesn't always work perfectly.

As for the Yamada's, i rewatched it yesterday, and didn't focus on it (i was surfing the net at the time, which is how i usually watch films! or playing a game or writing) and it worked much better. There were quite a few moments which i did laugh to this time around. However there were probably equally as many which i didn't find funny at all. I'll rate it somewhat better after that, but i still don't thing it is going to get off the bottom of my Ghibli pile.
 
Frankly, I spent a lot of this movie forcing myself to laugh because I knew it was supposed to be funny... but if i'm honest it either wasn't funny or I wasn't sure I actually understood why it was funny. That's not to say it's possible to watch this film with a straight face, it certainly has its moments. But when the art is at best merely "functional", I start to wonder why I'm bothering making the effort. I love my anime, but I do see the problems of ploughing on with something when I could simply have a far better time with some kind of other medium which requires so much less effort on the viewer's part.
^ My thoughts on Yamadas. I find comic anime to be a bit of an uphill struggle in general, but that film just loses too much in translation.
 
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